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Marked Ugler
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Posted - 2010.11.08 10:41:00 -
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it does kinda suck
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Dodgy Past
Digital Fury Corporation Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.11.08 11:35:00 -
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.08 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
As you know the Vexor, Rupture, Arbitrator, Moa, Stabber and Thorax have the fitting to excell in there combat roles without the use of rigs and expensive high meta mods. I think new Ammar pilots should have the same opportunity especially since no other cruiser gets the all important Dmg Bonus which will become a big part of there line up.
I'm sorry but I disagree. You want to be able to fit top tier weapons, a MWD, Gank and a heavy tank? T.I.E. brother. You can't have it. All the other ships, albeit they aren't as tight, require some kind of fitting module/rig or intuitive fitting to make a good (T1) cruiser. Have you noticed how small the sig of the Omen is? Its smaller than a Stabber when fitted (shield modules/rigs) The Vexor is a little different as it can rely heavily on drones but if you want to use that hybrid bonus you can only fit electrons and an 800mm plate with and a useful utility high (Med neut. Smalls are just too weak) if you use a fitting rig. Yes the Vexor has impressive DPS but its using lolblasters and the Omen can kite all that DPS even within scram/web range and only has to worry about drone DPS. The Caracal is a real P.I.T.A. to fit. However I always like to fit it with AML's instead of HML's or HAM's. This frees up loads of PG for those nice LSE's and requires meta 4 modules or a 3% cpu implant to fit. Its DPS is fairly poor however those AMLs really hurt frigates. Myself and a couple of other people in my corp have a Navy Caracal fitted with AML's to create a 60km frigate no fly zone around us. They even scare the balls off of Dramiels. The Stabber is paper thin. Has low DPS and fights deep into falloff. But wow! Is it fast!.
I really can't see anything wrong with T1 3rd tier cruiser balance in any way.
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Rickhart
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:34:00 -
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you realize that the omen has to use adaptive nano plating, 800mm plate and an afterburner to fit medium sized guns right? and it still gets less dps, slower and less ehp than the standard vexor with small guns.
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.08 18:42:00 -
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The Omen is faster, has a smaller sig and has considerably more range. A Vexor has to rely on its drones to do the damage (unless you AC fit it). Like I said, the Vexor is a difficult ship to compare it to as intuitive fitting and thinking outside of the box works well with that ship. Think of the poor Caracal pilots who really struggle to get any meaning DPS with a MWD and tank.
An AB Omen works well. A MWD + 800mm Plate Omen works well. A nano Omen also works well. Honestly. Its already a good T1 cruiser. Just stick your hands in your pocket and rig it.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Spugg Galdon The Omen is faster, has a smaller sig and has considerably more range. A Vexor has to rely on its drones to do the damage (unless you AC fit it). Like I said, the Vexor is a difficult ship to compare it to as intuitive fitting and thinking outside of the box works well with that ship. Think of the poor Caracal pilots who really struggle to get any meaning DPS with a MWD and tank.
An AB Omen works well. A MWD + 800mm Plate Omen works well. A nano Omen also works well. Honestly. Its already a good T1 cruiser. Just stick your hands in your pocket and rig it.
And yet no one flys them.
All your fits require high skill which is way to much to ask for newbe. Go rig it? I am glad you are made of money but 7 months ago I could barely afford a Cruiser hull. We are asking for the ability to fit a more conventional fit, not to make it overpowered. It's stats are not great fitting is just a little low for a standard Armor Ammar fit.
It is great that you can fit it out well with rigs and implants, did you forget how it was when you had Engineering 3-4 and Electronics 3-4. The other Cruisers not counting the Caracal fit together at basic skill and all of are used(Even the Anti Frig Caracal). The Omen is not on a regular basis. Also you mentioned sheild fitting them? What new Ammar Pilot is training sheild skill?
You can still use all your niche fits but this preposal is for new pilots with medium skill, and the ability to be able to get a more standard fit out of it. If you could the number of people flying it would rise and it would no longer be one of the dead ships.
There is no Downside what so ever to an Omen fitting buff.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.11.08 20:05:00 -
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If you think the Omen has problems fitting T2, you should try flying almost any other cruiser.
[Caracal] Reactor Control Unit II x2
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage x5
Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
13,799 EHP and 275 DPS @ 27.2km
[Omen] 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Reactor Control Unit II x3 Adaptive Nano Plating II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch x5
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
12,378 EHP, 221 dps @ 23+5km
Similar priced fits, both are equally tight fits. Caracal can't get all the damage on a cruiser though (120 for exp radius and 139 exp vel isn't going to do much to a cruiser). Javs do 193 dps @ 45km and standards do 215 dps @ 30km, so despite the numbers, the Omen would win. Honestly don't see the stated problem with the Omen (Bellicose is a silly tight fit for less dps and Vexor has destructible dps).
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.08 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi If you think the Omen has problems fitting T2, you should try flying almost any other cruiser.
[Caracal] Reactor Control Unit II x2
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage x5
Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
13,799 EHP and 275 DPS @ 27.2km
[Omen] 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Reactor Control Unit II x3 Adaptive Nano Plating II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch x5
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
12,378 EHP, 221 dps @ 23+5km
Similar priced fits, both are equally tight fits. Caracal can't get all the damage on a cruiser though (120 for exp radius and 139 exp vel isn't going to do much to a cruiser). Javs do 193 dps @ 45km and standards do 215 dps @ 30km, so despite the numbers, the Omen would win. Honestly don't see the stated problem with the Omen (Bellicose is a silly tight fit for less dps and Vexor has destructible dps).
Is that 3 RCU's...
That is the most ******ed fit I have ever seen, you seem to be EFT'ing with max skill caracters. Which tells me you didn't even read the OP or ignored it.
The Vexor can push that much DPS with it's drones and fit over 20kEHP. Stabber Kitting fits would eat both of those and the Caracal needs a boost as well. But now it can fit an Assault Missile Anti Frig fit...
Try reseting those skill levels to below 2.5mil skill points and engineering and Electronics 4 then make a fancy EFT fit. Use below Meta 2 and make it cost under 10mil w/o rigs. You can do it fine with the others. Then make a MWD, Buffer, Armor setup try not to use 400mm destroyer plates.
Three RCU's and less then 15EHP on a Cruiser... Thats a level of Pathetic that is hard to top!
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.11.08 21:29:00 -
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This is an omen. It's a tier-2 cruiser. This is the kind of ship flown by people who can't get into a harbinger. You'd be lucky to get engineering 4, electronics 4, and weapon upgrades 3 out of these people.
And this doesn't fit. It has THREE powergrid rigs AND a meta-4 reactor control. No MWD, just an AB. only an 800mm plate, with a small meta-4 cap booster. The guns are focused meta-4 pulse lasers. There ARE no lasers that use less grid.
Nevermind the capacitor issues...
[Omen, THE FITTING MODS -- THEY DO NOTHING!]
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200
Emergency Damage Control I Extruded Heat Sink I Fourier Transform I Tracking Program Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Warrior I x3
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.08 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Spugg Galdon on 08/11/2010 21:52:42 Edited by: Spugg Galdon on 08/11/2010 21:49:00 No. Those are top tier guns.
The guns you were looking for are Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beams. Those guns you got on there require 90 PG each (before skills) more than the lower guns.
Even with MAXED skills you can't get the big guns on any cruiser without fitting mods. I've never been able to fit a Thorax properly with anything bigger than Ions. The Vexor usually has to fit small guns instead of the mediums it has a bonus for and the Vexor needs just as much skilling to get good stats out of it. Honestly, these are T1 cruisers. T.I.E. Understand that.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.11.08 22:08:00 -
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Excuse me, my mistake. *refits*
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.11.08 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aamrr on 08/11/2010 22:12:22
Originally by: Spugg Galdon Edited by: Spugg Galdon on No. Those are top tier guns.
Top-tier short range, but sure. Beams take WAY more grid.
Originally by: Spugg Galdon
The guns you were looking for are Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beams. Those guns you got on there require 90 PG each (before skills) more than the lower guns.
Duly noted.
This BARELY fits. BARELY. Note the rig slots.
Lowest tier beams, meta-3 MWD, and only an 800mm plate.
[Omen, THE FITTING MODS -- THEY DO NOTHING!]
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200
Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Extruded Heat Sink I Fourier Transform I Tracking Program 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Warrior I x3
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.08 22:24:00 -
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[Omen, Low Skills] Damage Control I 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II N-Type Adaptive Nano Membrane I Heat Exhaust System
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Stasis Webifier I
Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Warrior I x3
Took your fit and threw Pulses instead of beams on and... That's weird cause this fits very easily. However from what I remember the OP was wanting to fit T2 guns. So has the OP trained for his T2 guns without getting the support skills? Oh and most pilots find fitting T2 guns on most ships a pain. Be it CPU or PGrid.
Honestly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Omen/Maller/Caracal/Moa/Vexor/Thorax/Stabber/Rupture. Skills are mandatory.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 08/11/2010 22:32:49
Originally by: Spugg Galdon However from what I remember the OP was wanting to fit T2 guns. So has the OP trained for his T2 guns without getting the support skills? Oh and most pilots find fitting T2 guns on most ships a pain. Be it CPU or PGrid.
Honestly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Omen/Maller/Caracal/Moa/Vexor/Thorax/Stabber/Rupture. Skills are mandatory.
First off I fly Minmatar only, everything fits fine. This was before I trained my fitting skills. It is funny to see someone open there mouth and make senseless accusations when the imformation is right front of them.
And are those meta 4 guns I see, So you should tell a noob to buy 5 13mil Isk guns to fit out there ship...
Way to half ass EFT it with no bareing on the actual question...
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits. The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.11.09 00:34:00 -
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the omen has **** poor fitting skills and i can easily fit tech 2 guns on all the other races gun cruisers why not on the omen too?
You can get 5 t2 fmp's fitted with an mwd and plate but that does require max fitting skills and a acr
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Mopsy Six
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Posted - 2010.11.09 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Mopsy Six on 09/11/2010 01:11:27 heh, over the past 3 years i've been playing the game, i must've made like 5 topics about boosting omen's fitting stats, all i could ever get was a bunch of replies with that one ***got omen build with an AB and a bunch of resistance plating on battleclinic or the one with beam lasers
it's awesome that this finally kicks in, an omen with a rack of medium pulses, 800mm and a MWD is something that would easily become my favourite cruiser
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Mopsy Six
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Posted - 2010.11.09 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Spugg Galdon [Omen, Low Skills]Took your fit and threw Pulses instead of beams on and... That's weird cause this fits very easily. However from what I remember the OP was wanting to fit T2 guns. So has the OP trained for his T2 guns without getting the support skills? Oh and most pilots find fitting T2 guns on most ships a pain. Be it CPU or PGrid.
Honestly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Omen/Maller/Caracal/Moa/Vexor/Thorax/Stabber/Rupture. Skills are mandatory.
oh lol, how stupid are you? i'm sure Caracal/Moa/Vexor/Thorax/Stabber/Rupture all need filler items like adaptive nano platings because they can't fit anything, you can't fit tech 2 guns/mwd/800mm plate no matter what on perfect skills
it's like, this ship is FIIINNNNNEEEEE, you ONLY need PERFECT FITTING SKILLS to fly a basic tech 1 setup, forget about rigs, though and don't put tech 2 stuff in it or teh univers asplodes, k
srsly, this ship had 4 turret hardpoints back in the day, now it got 5th to deal competetive dps, but no one bothered to calculate how much that actually requires to fit, so it was a mistake, just fix it, there's no reason to argue over this
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.09 06:28:00 -
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Edited by: Spugg Galdon on 09/11/2010 06:29:11 Wow! The emorage in here is awesome. These are T1 cruisers at the end of the day and your trying to shoe horn all that T2 gear onto it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to fit T2 gear to T1 but it is difficult, it requires a lot of skilling, and in the end still probably requires some kind of fitting mod/rig.
I am honestly for boosting ships when required. Especially fitting requirements but when I can't see anything wrong with a ship I am going to say no.
Oh, and yes, those are expensive guns. Use your brain and fit the nest ones down if you can't afford them
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.09 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 09/11/2010 07:17:11
Originally by: Spugg Galdon Edited by: Spugg Galdon on 09/11/2010 06:29:11 Wow! The emorage in here is awesome. These are T1 cruisers at the end of the day and your trying to shoe horn all that T2 gear onto it.
Your aurgument fails so you turn to insults...
Good job there buddy, you are almost at a five year old maturity level
Originally by: Spugg Galdon
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to fit T2 gear to T1 but it is difficult, it requires a lot of skilling, and in the end still probably requires some kind of fitting mod/rig.
Nope the other T1's mentioned in this thread fit fine, it's just this one.
Originally by: Spugg Galdon
I am honestly for boosting ships when required. Especially fitting requirements but when I can't see anything wrong with a ship I am going to say no.
So required is what...
How bout when it is the least flown direct combat cruiser. Thats usually a hint.
Originally by: Spugg Galdon
Oh, and yes, those are expensive guns. Use your brain and fit the nest ones down if you can't afford them
The next ones down happen to be five mil, your grasp on market concepts seem to be as bad as your EFT-fu. The ones before that won't fit with early to middle skill level and a large portion of your fit was meta 4.
At the cost you describe it would be cheaper to buy a Prophecy or Harbinger.
But go ahead and make more assumptions and link more overpriced EFT Fail Fits. It only serves to bring home what 90% of people in this thread agree with, and bumbs it to relavence for new people.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits. The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.11.09 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Spugg Galdon
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to fit T2 gear to T1 but it is difficult, it requires a lot of skilling, and in the end still probably requires some kind of fitting mod/rig.
Nope the other T1's mentioned in this thread fit fine, it's just this one.
Well and the caracal, both that and the omen require more fitting mods for a tech 2 fit than any of there equivalent cruisers. Vexor needs no fitting mods to t2 fit, neither does the arbitrator, stabber, bellicose, blackbird, celestis (probably spelt wrong), only the caracal and omen.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.09 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 09/11/2010 08:57:29
Originally by: Korg Leaf Well and the caracal, both that and the omen require more fitting mods for a tech 2 fit than any of there equivalent cruisers. Vexor needs no fitting mods to t2 fit, neither does the arbitrator, stabber, bellicose, blackbird, celestis (probably spelt wrong), only the caracal and omen.
At least it has the Assualt Fit and the Heavy Sniper Fit...
But it is sad that the Caracal can not run a HAM+LSE+MWD w/o fitting mods, like the 220mm+LSE+MWD Stabber can and the 800mm+MWD+Electron Vexor which can load three to four types of Drones.
Kinda sad the first true HAM ship you get is the Drake. It is an excellent Cruiser weapon and Caldari's main weapon and it can not be fit.
So much balence so little threads
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.11.09 11:22:00 -
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Saw all these thumb up pics and wanted to do one to...
On a more serisos note I thing this is a good idea...
Scorpionidae
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Yankunytjatjara
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.11.09 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm At least it has the Assualt Fit and the Heavy Sniper Fit...
Well tbh the omen has a sniper fit too - see below. The problem is that it can't fit HBLs even without a tank and with fitting mods. But imo the bigger problem is that it lacks the saving grace of the caracal's AMLs: quads should be pulse lasers, not beam lasers.
So I'm supporting but I'd like to see quads transformed to pulses, with the relevant changes in range, damage and tracking.
[Omen, beams] 5x Focused Medium Beam Laser II (Aurora M)
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Sensor Booster II
Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Energy Burst Aerator I*
* Low skilled characters can change this to a shield rig and it should fit with AWU IV.
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Mopsy Six
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Posted - 2010.11.09 20:07:00 -
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to be quite frank i really like the Caracal, it performs great in the right hands and along with the Stabber it's a compact little cruiser that flies like a slightly oversized frigate, i'm really happy i have this kind of ship option in game
but if someone's looking for a brawling missile T1 cruiser i'd see a problem, since Caracal is the only candidate
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fogbird
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Posted - 2010.11.12 10:53:00 -
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supported!
Originally by: Kate Kane Edited by: Kate Kane on 20/10/2010 00:13:02 Not supported.
The Omen has a damage bonus becouse its not meant to have these advanced fittings; boosting it would make it unbalanced and hurt new players by taking away an oppertunity to struggle with the fittings for it, and thus learn more about them and become better players with a better understanding of fitting mechanics.
This is eve. Not everything should be easy, and without challenges the game is no fun. Dont deprive new players of this oppertunity and fun just so you can have a higher dps and cheaper suicide gank ship to commit insurance frued in in empire.
funny stuff
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true Killjoy
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Posted - 2010.11.12 16:30:00 -
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This was my first cruiser and I loved it. After I learned by painfull trial and error, I sadly moved on. I'd love to see the omen shine.
You have my full support!
-Tk.
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Selinate
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.13 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Selinate on 13/11/2010 05:26:00 I support this completely.
This character is a fairly new one, and at the moment only has about 2.2 mil sp. Engineering to 4 atm, and I can only fit 5 t1 beam turrets on it that are of the second smallest amount of powergrid taken for beam turrets(focused modal medium laser 1). I can't even fit an armor repper on this boat. This is ludicrous. I may not have perfect skills, but with engineering at 4, I should be able to fit 5 of these low-powergrid requiring beam lasers with an armor repper...
I honestly feel like I wasted my isk on this, and now I have to go buy a different ship. Fix the omen, plz.
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.13 09:30:00 -
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[Omen, Omen] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptive Nano Plating II 400mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I 400mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I
10MN MicroWarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Hobgoblin II x3
See what I did there? Its cheap, has no rigs, and good stats vs cost. Requires low skilling.
There is nothing wrong with the Omen. Try more intuitive fittings instead of "I must fit an 800mm plate and a MWD and super powerful weapons". T.I.E. brother. That's what makes it so great.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.13 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 13/11/2010 10:13:13
Originally by: Spugg Galdon [Omen, Omen] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptive Nano Plating II 400mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I 400mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I
10MN MicroWarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Hobgoblin II x3
See what I did there? Its cheap, has no rigs, and good stats vs cost. Requires low skilling.
There is nothing wrong with the Omen. Try more intuitive fittings instead of "I must fit an 800mm plate and a MWD and super powerful weapons". T.I.E. brother. That's what makes it so great.
Yes I noticed the lack of DPS on it, maybe because there are 2 destroyer sized plates and no heatsinks. Don't worry one of the other 8 cruisers with tank and Dmg mods will be along shortly to put it out of it's misery.
Oh also there Ewar boat gets one less DPS then that fit with a TD, 4 small Nuets and a 6000EHP better tank(no rigs) and full flights of anti frig and ECM drones. So you managed fit it all together and there support ship pwns your frontline cruiser...
Try again your bumps keep getting more of the lil thumbs up.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2010.11.13 10:20:00 -
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300 DPS isn't to be laughed at when you can completely out range blasters and dropping 50 DPS when switching to scorch (in only one second!) and hitting out to 20 km is an epic achievement.
Can you post your Arbitrator fit so I can compare please?
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