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Jhonny Silvers
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Posted - 2010.10.21 10:10:00 -
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Hi guys,
Anyone know if EVE client runs on the new MAC Book AIR?
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Jacqueline Coeur
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:14:00 -
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I'd say it does. Apple is using EvE graphics as the illustration in their performance page: http://www.apple.com/macbookair/performance.html. And also in the performance section of the features page of some national sites, as is the case here.
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Jhonny Silvers
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Posted - 2010.10.21 15:16:00 -
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True. Going to ask the store to install it so I see it...
Was contemplating getting a iPad but leaning to the Air...
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Ravow
Minmatar Cosmic Encounter Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.21 19:28:00 -
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They say yes on there ads but...
The new MacBook Air have 1.4Ghz CULV CPU soo... It will run at less that 60fps and personally, I will not even try to pew pew on this kind of hardware.
The problem is that EVE is a 100% windows/Direct3D games and it need a wrapper too be usable on OSX and Linux. These wrapper work great, especially Wine BUT they need a good amount of CPU just for the wrapping and we see a performance loss due to this conversion.
I really don't know why Apple used Transgaminged Windows games for these ads in the performance section instead of finding natives one.
In windows, If you use a Windows game, the bottleneck is generaly the video card If you use a Windows game on Linux/OSX, the bottleneck IS the CPU and it will not make it correctly with a 1.4Ghz economy CPU.
It's will like trying to play EVE on a PIII 1.4Ghz with a GF 9600GTS PCI-E pluged with a PCI-E to AGP Adapter... It will work, and the bottleneck will be the CPU.
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Anator Namon
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Posted - 2010.10.21 21:29:00 -
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How about the 1.6 or 1.83 CPU?
I use to be able to play on my old (2006) 1.8 GHz dual core. And it even had a 950 intel graphics accelerator.
Generator for laptops, I want things being low budget anyways so I am fine with CPU. But you probably have a fair point there.
Won't disturb ship spinning of course.
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Jhonny Silvers
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Posted - 2010.10.22 05:20:00 -
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All true.
What I want from MacBook Air is mobility. Ability to put it to my bag and not going nuts on the weight.
Will use it to Browse internet, emails, Chat.
EVE client to it and would probably not undock. I'd do market stuff, chat, change skills.
I believe that to be HW enough to it :)
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Flynn Fetladral
Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2010.10.22 09:51:00 -
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The client 'runs' yeah. If all you wanna do is log in to station check orders, chat and stuff it prob be fine. Dunno if I would wanna undock though
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.28 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ivana Twinkle on 28/10/2010 20:17:11 only way eve is ever gonna be great on mac, is if they make the crappy client native instead of transgaming --- |
Zedic
Amarr Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.10.29 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jhonny Silvers All true.
What I want from MacBook Air is mobility. Ability to put it to my bag and not going nuts on the weight.
Will use it to Browse internet, emails, Chat.
EVE client to it and would probably not undock. I'd do market stuff, chat, change skills.
I believe that to be HW enough to it :)
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This too, is why I shall buy one... And I already own a MBP 17", and an iPad.. WAT?! I WANT IT! presssscccioussssssss......
"Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima Jarka |
Xcel x2
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Posted - 2010.10.30 04:59:00 -
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Everything in eve run perfectly on the new Air's I normally carry 3 13 pros when I travel so I went to the store and trued it on one of the 11 pros with 4g and it ran fine so I bought 3 11" with 4g. I run full pvp and do everything fine with them. I was even fighting in LXQ the other night with 1200 people and survived kinda.
Id recommend it it works great.
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.30 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Xcel x2 Everything in eve run perfectly on the new Air's I normally carry 3 13 pros when I travel so I went to the store and trued it on one of the 11 pros with 4g and it ran fine so I bought 3 11" with 4g. I run full pvp and do everything fine with them. I was even fighting in LXQ the other night with 1200 people and survived kinda.
Id recommend it it works great.
How does someone "survive kinda"? --- |
Xcel x2
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Posted - 2010.10.30 21:21:00 -
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with 1200 people shooting at each other in the same system it's not loosing a pod!
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.30 21:23:00 -
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either you survive or you dont, theres no kinda :P --- |
Zedic
Amarr Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.10.31 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ivana Twinkle either you survive or you dont, theres no kinda :P
Irrelevant. Everyone knows that goon's don't use Mac's. Oh Snap!
Anyway, I for one - consider a saved pod to be surviving. ^_^
But erm, 3 Air's? ....
You lookin for a house boy? Did I mention I play Eve?!
"Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima Jarka |
Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.11.01 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ravow They say yes on there ads but...
The above post is so full of bull**** and misinformation that everything in it should be completely ignored, and the poster should be perma-banned from ever posting again.
The new Air hardware looks to be capable of running EVE without problems if you use lowest settings. The CPU is a core 2 duo, which means it has quite a lot of processing bandwidth and the only thing that will really lower your performance is the use of shared memory for graphics.
(That is to say, all the stuff the idiot above said about wrappers and CPU is the kind of complete *******s you read on overclocking sites rather than what you get from us real programmers)
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Zedic
Amarr Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.11.01 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Ravow They say yes on there ads but...
The above post is so full of bull**** and misinformation that everything in it should be completely ignored, and the poster should be perma-banned from ever posting again.
The new Air hardware looks to be capable of running EVE without problems if you use lowest settings. The CPU is a core 2 duo, which means it has quite a lot of processing bandwidth and the only thing that will really lower your performance is the use of shared memory for graphics.
(That is to say, all the stuff the idiot above said about wrappers and CPU is the kind of complete *******s you read on overclocking sites rather than what you get from us real programmers)
I like you, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. There are a metric F--K ton of threads here you need to go kick some ass in. Woot!
"Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima Jarka |
Gysele
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Posted - 2010.11.02 13:52:00 -
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My new Air will arrive soon and I will post a report how it runs.
From initial reports from friends Eve runs ok on the new Air but even better on a Bootcamp Win partition. I will try both and post some numbers soon.
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Alisyana
0ne Percent.
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:42:00 -
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I think it'll run fine on either version of Air.
I had an old Dell 600m I put OSX 10.4 onto, and ran the mac eve client on that, and I was able to undock and fly around, but I had all the shaders and effects turned off. That machine had a pentium M 1.5, with 1 gig of ram and a Radeon mobility M9000 in it.
If that can do it, the Air surly can, even with enhanced graphics.
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Gysele
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Posted - 2010.11.05 20:56:00 -
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Ok, got my AIr yesterday and needed some time to install everything.
Besides the information the reviews of the new Air give I just want to say its really like they say. Instant on, apps launch instant, its fast.
Launching Eve however gets back to realism: it loads as "slow" as on all machines, even my i7, so I guess its Eve itself which loads slow, not the machines.
When ingame I used my old Airs default settings and the game feels much faster, no jitter or lag. I tried undocking in Jita and while my old Air was nearly unplayable the new one zipped around and I could play, on minimum settings.
Then my surprise: I changed shader settings to high and the graphics were much better ... and the performance unchanged? I said wtf, but really, the game is fast and playable even in Jita on medium settings, playing full res full screen as somehow the Air doesn't allow windowed mode.
When I find out how to display FPS I will run benchmarks with eve in Jita using my two accounts: one of the old Air and one on this new one.
Sys Specs: 4GB, 2.1 Ghz, 256GB SSD.
Now the bad side: as soon as Eve runs for 1 minute or two the fan starts to spin loudly so its recognizable. It doesnt run hot however as the old Air.
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Caidos
Triffid Systems
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Posted - 2010.11.06 09:23:00 -
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I don't run eve on mac but I am curious about the new air. Is the framerate shortcut not Ctrl-F? (or Command-F perhaps).
Definitely interested in seeing frame rate figures for Jita undock / in warp / in combat etc.
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GisFace
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Posted - 2010.11.09 07:28:00 -
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Ok, I instaled Win7 on a Bootcamp Partition on my new Air and Eve runs even smoother there. Reason is simple: The Mac Version renders through a wrapper and of course is slightly slower. The Fan doesnt blow as hard and it seems everything is smoother. On windows it also allows playing in windowed mode (my favourite).
I will try to catch some frame rates soon and post them here.
p.s.: loosing all settings, quickbars, ship fits is a pain when changing machines :/
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Gysele
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:25:00 -
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Ops, Gisface is an alt I no longer use, sorry.
So I was on the road for 3 days and used my iphone as a 3G modem zu my new MacBook Air and played Eve. I ratted a bit in 0.0 and it was perfectly playable.
The major differences to the old Macbook Air:
Stutter is gone The old one gave me stutters on low end settings from time to time making the game troublesome to play as you always got the feeling of being "unsafe". The new one never gave it on medium settings.
Frame Rates FPS are much higher, even using medium settings, perfectly playable, even in windowed mode. FPS are even higher when using Win7 bootcamp installs (I use 64bit Win7 Home Premium). FPS are stable although I ran chrome and Teamspeak, both didn't have any effect on Eve during my 3 hour session.
UI Responsiveness On the old the interface often was laggy and market orders or complex menu warps (to moons/planets) where a pain to perform. On the new Air no problems, reacts as fast as my desktop.
I will perform benchmarks soon and post them here. So far I love it as a portable Eve Machine.
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Kerdrak
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.11.12 08:22:00 -
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I received yesterday my new 11.6 Air (basic with 4gb ram) and I'm amazed with the performance of this computer. EVE is not only playable, it works better than in my 24' iMac. Undocked in Jita and FPS never went below 28, being the average around 30. ________________________________________ |
Nouhou Malio
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:32:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up on the new Airs. I've been eying them greedily since the first benchmarks trickled out and revealed that they weren't useless. My major source of concern was that it wouldn't run Eve as a secondary mobile client.
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Carribean Queen
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Posted - 2010.12.09 01:54:00 -
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the 13" 1.86ghz 2gb/128gb Air runs EVE perfectly, even better than my Core2 17" MBP. I run L4, L5 and Exploration/Mining with ZERO problems.
I tried it at the Mac Store with an 11.6" 1.4ghz 2gb/64gb and it was 'ok' but nothing to write home about.
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Zenk Faswell
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Posted - 2010.12.30 03:02:00 -
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All this great discussion, but I was hoping someone might mention how the text looks on that relatively high-density display. I find it difficult to read sometimes even on my 15" MBP and the air has the same resolution at 80% of the size! So if an air owner wants to discuss that I'd appreciate it.
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.30 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ivana Twinkle on 30/12/2010 12:52:55 ok, I just got a macbook air 13"/1.86. Eve runs fine, just as on my old 2010 macbook pro. However the fan noce is more pronounced on the macbook air, as the airflow is more compressed due to the vent sizes. Other than that, the air is fine for eve except perhaps for fleet battles. ---
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