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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.24 06:57:00 -
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what a minute, the new character creator can not come out without tattoos!
If it does then when all of the NPC agents are created.. none of them will have tattoos! And that would mean, like how NPCs in factional warfare have no changed, and how many other thigns just never change in eve when something is pushed out. The agent will never have tattoos ever again in eve!
Hasn't the art team thought this through!
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.10.24 08:32:00 -
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WTF? I didn't know anyone even looked at agents... --
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Frankinator
Caldari Biotically Engineered Carebears Zerg Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.24 09:39:00 -
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Tatoos would be a good thing to add, it will be able to add diversity to the characters.
Frank
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Luke Spacerunner
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Posted - 2010.10.24 10:56:00 -
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When I first used it a few weeks ago I think it had tattoos....
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.24 11:34:00 -
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How about someone actually READ when devs write? Tattos will be there, but it's not main priority (main priority is to have this thing AT LEAST functional). -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Victor Valka
Caldari The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.10.24 13:48:00 -
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This brings up an interesting point -- who's the poor inter who will have to remodel all NPCs?
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.24 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri How about someone actually READ when devs write? Tattos will be there, but it's not main priority (main priority is to have this thing AT LEAST functional).
but that's the point. why is that the priority? I'm looking forward to it as much as the next guy, maybe even more. But I hope they don't rush it out.
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.24 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri How about someone actually READ when devs write?
Dude, you just went too far. Eventhough that would clear up at least 80% of the issues on these forums, you are asking too much.
Why would we as a group spend 5 minutes of our time researching to save others coutless minutes of time reading and replying when it only takes us less than a minute to ask?
All we need to do is sit back, ignore most of the flames, stuff our faces with stale chips and flat beer/soda until our answer(s) to come back. Then disagree with or not believe them.
So much easier.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.24 19:29:00 -
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Because the devs have done it too many times to count, pre-nerfing something/everything in order for it to even work and then "forgetting" to un-nerf it again contrary to promises and what not.
Tattoos are not optional, at least not for Matari characters. They are a major PF focal point when it comes to the entire tribal nature of the beast so not adding them to the MyBarbie-generator from the start is a useless waste of resources. That is of course assuming they haven't already decided to axe them entirely and have tasked the temps (ie. RP writers) with creating a revisionist Eve history.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.10.24 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida That is of course assuming they haven't already decided to axe them entirely and have tasked the temps (ie. RP writers) with creating a revisionist Eve history.
Why axe something that you can make easy money on (microtransactions)? You know people will pay for it... --
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.25 06:03:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 25/10/2010 06:05:51
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Because the devs have done it too many times to count, pre-nerfing something/everything in order for it to even work and then "forgetting" to un-nerf it again contrary to promises and what not.
Thank you
remember factional warfare missions? "we'll watch it and see if people do them and then ajust the awards or something"
it's been 3 years. Even thought they said before released they would look into it eventually.
or PI, the whole thing about population control they told us "no no we'll do it later" and I remember saying "hey devs! if you build the infrastructure without population as a faction then it'll be impossible to get it done in the future!
now it's happening agian. they won't re-re-render the NPC just because they release tattoos in 6 months/a year. it'll just sit there, and my minmatar agents will be tattoosless. I know it's a small detail, but CCP said they are going for excellence.
Excellence means that when you drive deep into something you find lots of little details that polish up the game even if it would be functional without them.
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Also...
WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN QUAFE STATION!
sorry had to get that out, it's one of the reasons I quit, ccp was like we'll model more trinity stations as we go. There used to be 7-10 different stations to visit. Now there are 4.
sigh
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.25 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida That is of course assuming they haven't already decided to axe them entirely and have tasked the temps (ie. RP writers) with creating a revisionist Eve history.
Why axe something that you can make easy money on (microtransactions)? You know people will pay for it...
Holy ****! And here I thought I was a cynic
Pretty sure the outrage at the mere mention of possible extra uses for PLEX will make them very cautious when discussing micro-trans.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.10.25 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Pretty sure the outrage at the mere mention of possible extra uses for PLEX will make them very cautious when discussing micro-trans.
I guess you missed that interview:
Quote: Eurogamer: Business models in MMOs are changing. Are there any plans to use micro-transactions in EVE to allow people to re-map their skills?
Torfi Frans Olafsson: Yeah, we are looking at introducing virtual goods within the game, but we feel those things should be vanity items rather than those that give you a clear benefit over other players in-game.
And now tell me Tattoos aren't the perfect vanity items... --
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.25 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Catari Taga ...And now tell me Tattoos aren't the perfect vanity items...
For Amarr, Caldari and Gallente perhaps, but they are an integral part of the Minmatar. The yarns they would have to spin to justify such a move would be beyond epic.
When I read "vanity items" I think more of avatar boob-jobs, fancy apparel and decorations for lodgings (ie. all the things that would wow the WoW crowd)
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Shirley Serious
Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra
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Posted - 2010.10.25 13:27:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1394898&page=1#29
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1394898&page=4#97
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1394898&page=8#217
Tattoos might not appear in initial release. They know they are important. A random option generator makes doing agent faces easy.
These posts were not hard to find.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.25 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shirley Serious http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1394898&page=1#29
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1394898&page=4#97
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1394898&page=8#217
Tattoos might not appear in initial release. They know they are important. A random option generator makes doing agent faces easy.
These posts were not hard to find.
wow dude, way to miss the point, I know all that, I read the forums VERY careful, and far to much.
NPCs are created randomly, yes. But once they go through the whole process of randomly creating them without tattoos, what are they going to do, randomly create all of them again 6 month later? you don't really believe that do you?
I know I realistically wouldn't do that. don't get me wrong I know they might not appear in the initial release, THATS MY ISSUE.
I also know they know they are important, but I wonder if they thought about all the minmatar agents.
these posts were not hard to find, but maybe mine was hard to read.
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Shirley Serious
Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra
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Posted - 2010.10.25 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
NPCs are created randomly, yes. But once they go through the whole process of randomly creating them without tattoos, what are they going to do, randomly create all of them again 6 month later? you don't really believe that do you?
What I believe they will do, is release the character creator in its initial form, which may not have tattoos.
They have promised tattoos in a subsequent version. They have also said there is a grace period to allow people to update their picture, before a randomised picture is forced.
Since a portrait change appears to be something they want people to pay for, I do not see them ending the grace period for free update of portraits before tattoos are implemented. That would be unreasonable.
So, what I think they will do with the agents, is either to wait until the grace period ends to do all agents, or run a random generator for all agents initially, and then run the random generator with tattoos at the end of the grace period for minmatar agents.
It is the logical point to do that, as they will be force-generating all the far more numerous player characters that do not have updated pictures anyway.
Also, it seems the pictures are apparently created independently, which would mean they don't have to wait for an expansion.
Quote: these posts were not hard to find, but maybe mine was hard to read.
Your post contained a lot of grammar and spelling mistakes. So......
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.10.25 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mag''s on 25/10/2010 17:01:50
Character creation is the one thing that should not be rushed out, but it will be and it'll be **** up for ages.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.10.25 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shirley Serious It is the logical point to do that,
You must be new here...
Originally by: Mag's Character creation is the one thing that should not be rushed out, but it will be and it'll be **** up for ages.
No doubt. --
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SXYGeeK
Gallente do you -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:59:00 -
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perhaps tattoo's are not part of character creation because they are not a natural feature. I imagine you would need to visit a tattoo parlor in-carna and have them done up. then if you got pod killed your clone wouldn't have all the tats, you'd have to go get them done again. don't like your tats? just self destruct your pod :)
I think of them sort of like implants. -We So SeXy |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.28 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: SXYGeeK perhaps tattoo's are not part of character creation because they are not a natural feature. I imagine you would need to visit a tattoo parlor in-carna and have them done up. then if you got pod killed your clone wouldn't have all the tats, you'd have to go get them done again. don't like your tats? just self destruct your pod :)
I think of them sort of like implants.
I'll but that. actully that makes sense to lose your tatts when you get podded :PIf they could sell whys tations don't have windows anymore that well we'll be going places.
However the agents still need tattoos, and thus my point still stands.
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