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Freya Kesanlaulu
Minmatar Special Operations Corp Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill Games like Eve attracts a certain type of player. Women drawn to Eve, are often geek chicks.
That's not true. Eve was my first online game, and first space game I played. That doesn't mean I'm geeky, not-attractive etc. woman.
You don't have to generalize all.
And btw. not all women in Eve are carebearing miners, like most people think.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:56:00 -
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You didn't read my entire post, did you?
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.10.28 10:33:00 -
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as a man who plays a female avatar and pretends to be a female at all times, i can say that we women love the thrill of male geeks drooling over us and we like it a lot.
*flutters eyes*
Moar please.
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Ko Shimin
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.28 10:44:00 -
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Usually men go after women in any environment: at work, on the street, in clubs, in bars.. you name the places.
Now.. if the guys in EVE are much more aggresive in flirting and making advances, there is only one, ONE BIG REASON: a woman that plays EVE is a rare thing, and apart from the things we all men like, boobs, legs, round and sexy asses, the women playing EVE, have something that unfortunately few women have, and that is above the average brains and imagination, a much more technical mind.
Now, this mind and imagination, in all it's beauty would be something that would surely make me go after a girl in EVE. Physical aspect would be a bonus.
So stop complaining about men harassing you. Take it as a compliment.
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Mrs Destruction
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:11:00 -
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Chicks are for f*gs
o/
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Aesheera
Amarr PWNED Factor Elite
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:16:00 -
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Seriously, people need to get out more.
Also, OP seems like he is white knighting it up here too. Taking a stance for women, more or less trying 'to protect the dignity of female gamers'.
Block function is your friend. Corp switching is your friend.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mara Rinn on 28/10/2010 11:22:24
Originally by: Freya Kesanlaulu That's not true. Eve was my first online game, and first space game I played. That doesn't mean I'm geeky, not-attractive etc. woman.
There is a subtle difference between "geek" and "geeky".
Sandra Bullock is a geek chick. I'm pretty sure most boys playing EVE Online wouldn't call Sandra "geeky".
Originally by: De'Veldrin Wait...this is the part of the thread where we degenerate into clichTs right?
Ha ha! I think that part started at post #1.
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Victor Valka
Caldari The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:20:00 -
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I read the thread title as "Low frame rates in EVE".
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.10.28 12:59:00 -
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The few females I've met in Eve were there because thier boyfiend/husbands had convinced them to try the game. That said, I'm not a very social soul myself so haven't exactly talked to many people in game at all.
As for how men treat women online, it's kind of funny. There are tons of guys who are way too creepy. However, some of us are completely clueless too. I remember in PSU, talking to these two girls in a random party. As we were parting ways, I remember both saying thanks for flirting with us in a sincier manner. I was kind of struck dumbfounded because I thought the whole time we were just exchanging friendly banter. Not once did it cross my mind that we were actualy flirting. Shows how clueless some of us can be! LOL
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:03:00 -
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OP is a sleazeball, trying to get in with some fat pigs.
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MarcusFenix2
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:34:00 -
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Females harrassed on the internet? This is not news
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.28 13:58:00 -
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We're actually starting to build up a quite strong female presence in Veto. Then again, we're all flaming homosexuals, so they feel right at home with us. ---
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Yabus
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia As we were parting ways, I remember both saying thanks for flirting with us in a sincier manner.
wow you must be such a loser
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Ankh
Minmatar Angel Constellation
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane Ive got a lot of females in my corp who like it as they are treated as any other corp member. and this is what you find
1. The collect ships like shoes 2. They recruit other women as women like to hang out with other women do to there scarcity 3. They are mainly social and will participate in team work 4. They will follow a death vendetta to the end if an internet man has been or previously given them problems 5. As their CEO they are happy to send me one nudie pic per week (this part is a complete lie)
Your thread had my respect until I read point 5, which mocks the whole thing.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akira Kurosaw EvE is filled with tiny people that like to hurt or be by other people, as such eve does properly not cater to the values of most women.
There are many reasons few women play EVE but this is a big one.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Yabus
Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia As we were parting ways, I remember both saying thanks for flirting with us in a sincier manner.
wow you must be such a loser
Of that, I have no doubt.
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Korizan
Hysterically Unforgiving
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Posted - 2010.10.28 14:51:00 -
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Although I haven't spoken to many women in EVE I used to play another MMO where the women to men count was close to 50/50.
I have to laugh at the comments about the evil of flirting.
There were a fair amount of women in the guild I played with and most where married as I am. And there was a lot of friendly banter and flirting going on from time to time and it went both ways. In fact it went as far as RP marriage in some cases. So people had a in game husband/wife and a RL husband/wife.
And yes a lot of the people had zero issues showing up to fan fests and hanging out there as well.
The point being it never went beyond that. Everyone knew that we where playing a game and the flirting and banter was also part of the gaming experience for us. That was it, nothing more.
I will state that every now and again we ran into somebody who didn't understand the lines but they wouldn't be around very long anyways. And people who would believe such and such people where married in RL as well, which brought about some really funny moments while we tried to explain the situation them.
The point being is that people need to grow up (men & women). And you either enjoy the situation for what it is or stick your head in the ground and humm real loud till it is all over.
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Akira Kurosaw EvE is filled with tiny people that like to hurt or be by other people, as such eve does properly not cater to the values of most women.
There are many reasons few women play EVE but this is a big one.
Wow you two are actually even more clueless about women than the average nerdy teen.
The only reason why there are so few gals here is because there are no avatars to dress up and run around with. Cue in Incarna.
And also because they all got cooties. _________________________________________________
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Anna Grahm
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Point being, that there are things people can do about such things and they shouldn't be afraid to use them. Most people will stop after being told the attention is not wanted and the rest deserve to get some sense *****slapped in to them by a GM.
Just wanted to say that I've reported one person for sexual harassment and a GM did nothing - the person is still playing. Unfortunately he is somewhat aligned with my corp. My CEO and corp members all know that if this guy messes with me again I'm going to pod him and set negative standings to his corp - everyone in my corp has my back, because that's what corpies do.
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Cataca
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:30:00 -
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Who the hell even gets the idea to pick up someone in a computergame... i mean, how desperate can you be. Invite them to drinks in bars, or did you spend all of your allowance on your army of alts?
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cataca Who the hell even gets the idea to pick up someone in a computergame... i mean, how desperate can you be. Invite them to drinks in bars, or did you spend all of your allowance on your army of alts?
Because a lot of EVE players are
FOREVER ALONE
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Forum Speaker
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Posted - 2010.10.28 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
A women i know was considering leaving the game as she gets about 20 private convos a day from people inside her own alliance. She is flirted with constantly by a lot of married men and young boys who want to be facebook friends.
Dont voice comm anybody, problem solved.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Akira Kurosaw EvE is filled with tiny people that like to hurt or be by other people, as such eve does properly not cater to the values of most women.
There are many reasons few women play EVE but this is a big one.
Wow you two are actually even more clueless about women than the average nerdy teen.
The only reason why there are so few gals here is because there are no avatars to dress up and run around with. Cue in Incarna.
And also because they all got cooties.
No.
Most adult women quite reasonably find the scamming, dog eat dog nature or random interactions and needlessly internally domination focused attitude with in most corp to be pointless.
And to be honest they are right. In the real world society always wins over the wild west given time. But in EVE there are mechanics to specifically prevent this.
I like EVEs cut throat nature, and Im sure some women do to. But most women are more interested in over coming fear and stupidty by by building socities rather than simply reveling in the misery.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Grog Barrel
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kendon riddick as a man who plays a female avatar and pretends to be a female at all times, i can say that we women love the thrill of male geeks drooling over us and we like it a lot.
*flutters eyes*
Moar please.
as a man who plays a female avatar and pretends to be a female at all times, i can say that we women ALSO love buttsecs, but we are aware, that if we give men the chance to exploit this pleasure too often, they will get bored too fast. Hence we keep acting as if we would dislike it and/or be pretty conservative about this act.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Why is this a problem to quit over? Tell the harassing people to **** off and stop spamming, since she feels harassed. [...] Most people will stop after being told the attention is not wanted and the rest deserve to get some sense *****slapped in to them by a GM.
Generally, blocking people works fine, but I have had a problem where someone started to recycle alts with new names to continue to pester me. I can tell you that the GM staff takes this very seriously and I'm really happy with how quickly they take care of the situation. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 28/10/2010 18:34:35
Originally by: Anna Grahm
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Point being, that there are things people can do about such things and they shouldn't be afraid to use them. Most people will stop after being told the attention is not wanted and the rest deserve to get some sense *****slapped in to them by a GM.
Just wanted to say that I've reported one person for sexual harassment and a GM did nothing - the person is still playing. Unfortunately he is somewhat aligned with my corp. My CEO and corp members all know that if this guy messes with me again I'm going to pod him and set negative standings to his corp - everyone in my corp has my back, because that's what corpies do.
Yes, posting with alt.
Are you saying the harasment continued without change even after being reported? From your words it sounds like the harassing activity has indeed stopped. I wouldn't expect a GM to ban anyone because of things like these without giving warnings first. I also wouldn't expect a GM to take action unless you clarified that you tried all other methods available to you first. You go to a GM when the other methods failed and you need to make that clear to a GM, so he doesn't dismiss your report as being made by some thin skinned whiner who complains about little things. I'm not saying you didn't act properly, but the report wasn't a waste anyway for a few reasons.
The point of reporting isn't just to get the unwanted action to stop. It also has a few side benefits. The first direct benefit is naturally that it allows you to have an authority backup your demand for the unwanted activity to stop. An outsider with authority siding with you should be enough to convince him to stop. Getting a ban because he flirted with someone who wasn't interested in it would be too harsh though. Even a warning should require, that a plea from the target to stop the harassment was ignored. He can't be blaimed for harassment, if he didn't know the attention was unwanted. The target needs to refer to logs as proof.
The second side benefit, one that might not help you directly, is that you put the guy on notice in the eyes of the moderating team. Even if that incident doesn't yeald actual results, the GMs will from now on be much more likely to take action, since it is something he has been reported for before, the logs showed suspicious actions and he propably now already has a warning/mark on him from the initial report. So even if reporting him didn't actually help you then, it doesn't mean it won't help you or some else the next time this person is involved.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.10.28 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ko Shimin Usually men go after women in any environment: at work, on the street, in clubs, in bars.. you name the places.
Now.. if the guys in EVE are much more aggresive in flirting and making advances, there is only one, ONE BIG REASON: a woman that plays EVE is a rare thing, and apart from the things we all men like, boobs, legs, round and sexy asses, the women playing EVE, have something that unfortunately few women have, and that is above the average brains and imagination, a much more technical mind.
Now, this mind and imagination, in all it's beauty would be something that would surely make me go after a girl in EVE. Physical aspect would be a bonus.
So stop complaining about men harassing you. Take it as a compliment.
You sound like a sexual harasser type dude. All pinching butts at work and being all YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT TOOTS. Hope it's a troll.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest Most adult women blah blah blah ... But most women are more interested in... blah blah blah.
Ghoest, speaker for the dead women?
When you start using "most" in a sentence containing a social group that you are not a member of, you should just stop. Women can speak for themselves, you know?
How many boys playing this game have the balls of Mynxee or any of the Hellcats?
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Cataca
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Akira Kurosaw EvE is filled with tiny people that like to hurt or be by other people, as such eve does properly not cater to the values of most women.
There are many reasons few women play EVE but this is a big one.
Wow you two are actually even more clueless about women than the average nerdy teen.
The only reason why there are so few gals here is because there are no avatars to dress up and run around with. Cue in Incarna.
And also because they all got cooties.
No.
Most adult women quite reasonably find the scamming, dog eat dog nature or random interactions and needlessly internally domination focused attitude with in most corp to be pointless.
And to be honest they are right. In the real world society always wins over the wild west given time. But in EVE there are mechanics to specifically prevent this.
I like EVEs cut throat nature, and Im sure some women do to. But most women are more interested in over coming fear and stupidty by by building socities rather than simply reveling in the misery.
So women are interested in eve to overcome the fear that naturally comes with being a girl obviously, but they do overcome it, by building a new SOCIETY! I mean, beeing a geek and stuff, i didnt understand anything at first, but you made it all clear.
As someone said before, i for one welcome our new female overlords. Instead of hunting flies in your bedroom, now you get to kill alliances. All because they are so insecure...
Do get some real interaction with girls please... and no, your mother does not count.
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2010.10.29 04:18:00 -
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hey, female eve player here, confirming I don't get a crapload of spam messages, and in fact everyone I interact with is really cool.
This is why I hang out with the RP community.
Cause they don't suck.
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