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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:48:00 -
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Even if you don't make the contract, read it, reread it, then REREREAD IT. Hit accept, double check the little "are you sure window", then accept. Secure bounty services
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keven977
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:48:00 -
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Ok thx for the info.
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Running missions
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:01:00 -
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check out my corp info in game and i'l try to help you, just follow the steps.
Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.[/ |
Mr NoPants
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: keven977
Cya in hell.
You sound angry
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keven977
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:22:00 -
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A little bit but it's ok now, it was kinda my fault cause i used direct trade, i will just buy an other plex and put it in the market :)
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: keven977 A little bit but it's ok now, it was kinda my fault cause i used direct trade, i will just buy an other plex and put it in the market :)
But a GTC from an online supplier like battle clinic, then sell the code on the Time Code bazaar. You cannot be scammed there. Secure bounty services
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keven977
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:28:00 -
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ok, thank you :)
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Preestar
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:36:00 -
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LOL just got another 2 plex straight from the GTC
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keven977
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:38:00 -
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I'm happy for you :) loll
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Emegila
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Posted - 2010.10.30 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Emegila on 30/10/2010 04:18:01 LOL, ahh poor baby you got scammed. boo hoo cry a river build a bridge and get over it. If we only got an isk for evrytime someone got the shaft, we would all be billionairs.
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Meridith Akesia
Men of Questionable Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.10.30 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Emegila Edited by: Emegila on 30/10/2010 04:18:01 LOL, ahh poor baby you got scammed. boo hoo cry a river build a bridge and get over it. If we only got an isk for evrytime someone got the shaft, we would all be billionairs.
*Facepalms*
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Lessa Nessa
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Posted - 2010.10.30 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: stuffers i sold him a PLEX using trade and i got nothing
Let that be a lesson on how not to use the trade window. It is best used for giving stuff to alts. Any other use is risky. The less you know the person, the riskier it is to use the Trade window.
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Donny Maurasi
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Posted - 2010.10.30 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: stuffers Hi my name is Keven, "Stuffers" in-game, i got scammed for 354 million by a guy named "Preestar" in Jita, i sold him a PLEX using trade and i got nothing, he said you will soon know that everyone is a scammer in EVE and scam is even legal, he also said, "i have only 14 billion" and "i really hate new players who buy isk with a passion"
Personnaly i think it's stealing and not a tutorial on "how to not get scammed when getting scammed", i've sold my caracal cause i thought i was going to get a lot of ISK and finally buy a Rokh but no, now i am stuck with 700k and a trasher badly fitted, so pls, GM's contact me ASAP.
Regards, Keven.
Send me your 700k isk and I will double it..
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Forum Speaker
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Posted - 2010.10.30 17:25:00 -
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How did you get scammed anyway? You were greedy , were you not? You wanted to get a better deal than market offers. But then thinking he scammed you for 354 million, this is around the market price Why didn't you just sell your plex at the market? Because you don't know what you are doing?
See this is a lesson for you. Having money is a responsibility, and you shouldn't take the responsbility you can't yet carry. Start all over again and don't try to get too rich too fast next time without even knowing how the markets work.
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Preestar
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:00:00 -
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He did have it on the market to begin with at the lowest price so he wasnt doing anything wrong.. What he did wrong was advetise it in Jita local. I simply convoed him, asked him for trade or contract because my wallet has a negative balance, and if I buy anything from the market then it will deduct 50%
He then took it off and.. well you know what
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Forum Speaker
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Preestar He did have it on the market to begin with at the lowest price so he wasnt doing anything wrong.. What he did wrong was advetise it in Jita local. I simply convoed him, asked him for trade or contract because my wallet has a negative balance, and if I buy anything from the market then it will deduct 50%
He then took it off and.. well you know what
Then I call it still being greedy. He could have waited to get it sold like all other traders do. I don't know the OP's age but thats the problem of MTV generation. Want it all, and want it now.
At least he knows where that road ends now
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Manifoldgodhead
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Posted - 2010.10.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson in all fairness, most people dont rage quit cos they got scammed.... grow up its just a game lol
I know I may just be a noob. And i read a lot so I am super paranoid about scams and ****. However, a plex is NOT just part of the game. It's not just 1's and 0's popping in and out of existence on a server somewhere, its someone's actual hard earned money. I have no sympathy for the OP but in more and more IRL courts stealing virtual items can be a real crime. It's worse even when CCP has linked it's in-game economy to real world dolar amounts through the buying of plex.
Tl;dr I have no sympathy but this type of thing may become real crime in the next few years, which is a badass cross-over between the digital and the real.
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.10.30 23:42:00 -
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Hum.. I don't know how people fall for this.. But anyway, I was checkin this preestar contracts, and he sold one PLEX on auction for a 2.55 Billion ISK bid
Anyone care to explain?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.10.31 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 31/10/2010 00:11:59
Originally by: keven977 Lol very funny AHAHAHAH.
Nah seriously this game is not as fun as i thought, the scammers make the game bad and CCP lose lots of players because of that, me included.
Oh, I agree, mate... I agree.
Problem is, for every two players that quit because of scams, five subscribe because they heard about the scams, and want to scam people themselves. There's a *reason* why Eve is constantly growing in population, while other carebear MMOs can only manage an initial subscription burst which peters out a few months after release...
That reason is, Eve is one of the few games on the market, that permit actual evil. A warlock in WoW is supposedly "evil" - consorting with demons and casting spells meant to inflict pain and disease - but that warlock's goal is the same as anyone else's. To beat the raid boss, to collect the phat loot, and make friends along the way.
Some players (well, a lot of players) in Eve Online don't want to be your friend. They don't want to follow any play-nice-rules. I know that can be mind-boggling, coming from more community-minded MMOs where everyone innately comes to cooperating naturally. But in Eve Online, it is not in my best interest to collaborate with you. It is however in my best interest, to kill you, steal your things, sell them, use the money to buy PLEX, and play Eve for free while I plan robbing the next unfortunate putz to cross my sights.
Think about that. The game you pay for, I play for free... because I'm a jerk.
Don't you suddenly want to be a jerk too?
(If not, quit now.)
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Preestar
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Posted - 2010.10.31 00:11:00 -
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Actually CCP has covered its back and the people playing the game to avoid any such law suites by stating quite clearly in thier EULA that once a GTC is converted into PLEX. It is then considered an ingame item and nothing more. The first thing you do when you launch eve is you have to accept the EULA. How many of you just scrolled right to the bottom without reading anything?
How about this then. You guy a GTC, convert it into PLEX, then sell the plex on the market and buy a raven navy issue. Later that day I scam the raven navy out of you... Am I still stealing your real life money?
Plex is to real money, what my nan is to a man... oh **** wait... nevermind :D lol
The point im making is plex isnt considered money in eve. Your GTC is consdered money though and scamming them can get you banned.
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Amanda Eidolo
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.10.31 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 31/10/2010 00:11:59
Originally by: keven977 Lol very funny AHAHAHAH.
Nah seriously this game is not as fun as i thought, the scammers make the game bad and CCP lose lots of players because of that, me included.
Oh, I agree, mate... I agree.
Problem is, for every two players that quit because of scams, five subscribe because they heard about the scams, and want to scam people themselves. There's a *reason* why Eve is constantly growing in population, while other carebear MMOs can only manage an initial subscription burst which peters out a few months after release...
That reason is, Eve is one of the few games on the market, that permit actual evil. A warlock in WoW is supposedly "evil" - consorting with demons and casting spells meant to inflict pain and disease - but that warlock's goal is the same as anyone else's. To beat the raid boss, to collect the phat loot, and make friends along the way.
Some players (well, a lot of players) in Eve Online don't want to be your friend. They don't want to follow any play-nice-rules. I know that can be mind-boggling, coming from more community-minded MMOs where everyone innately comes to cooperating naturally. But in Eve Online, it is not in my best interest to collaborate with you. It is however in my best interest, to kill you, steal your things, sell them, use the money to buy PLEX, and play Eve for free while I plan robbing the next unfortunate putz to cross my sights.
Think about that. The game you pay for, I play for free... because I'm a jerk.
Don't you suddenly want to be a jerk too?
(If not, quit now.)
QUOTING ISTVAAN SHOGAATSU'S VIEWPOINT ON SCAMMING.
A PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS?
A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED. -------- ¦ |
Forum Speaker
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Posted - 2010.10.31 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Manifoldgodhead
Originally by: Eska Royson in all fairness, most people dont rage quit cos they got scammed.... grow up its just a game lol
I know I may just be a noob. And i read a lot so I am super paranoid about scams and ****. However, a plex is NOT just part of the game. It's not just 1's and 0's popping in and out of existence on a server somewhere, its someone's actual hard earned money. I have no sympathy for the OP but in more and more IRL courts stealing virtual items can be a real crime. It's worse even when CCP has linked it's in-game economy to real world dolar amounts through the buying of plex.
Tl;dr I have no sympathy but this type of thing may become real crime in the next few years, which is a badass cross-over between the digital and the real.
No, not going to happen. By your logic you can also argue that because you are paying for accessing this game, everything in game holds a real dollar value. The money you pay to the GTC is for your game time. Instead of using it for paying your sub, if you decide to convert it to plex, it becomes an in game item and is treated the way all in game items are treated. Which means when you lose your plex, you are no different than the next guy who loses his 400mil worth ship and mods.
Enjoy
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EoD
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Posted - 2010.10.31 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Preestar He did have it on the market to begin with at the lowest price so he wasnt doing anything wrong.. What he did wrong was advetise it in Jita local. I simply convoed him, asked him for trade or contract because my wallet has a negative balance, and if I buy anything from the market then it will deduct 50%
He then took it off and.. well you know what
Does this make sense to anyone? Obviously it worked.
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Preestar
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Posted - 2010.10.31 15:35:00 -
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It isnt ment to make sense... its ment to sound like a legit reason why I cant buy his item from the market. Copy & pasting fake error messages works awesome for example:
When I try to accept the contract it says [Notify 16:53] The contract issuer is currently not available to complete this contract.
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lol what the hell? When I try to accept it says [Notify 16:53] The item currently listed in still in operation.
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wtf lol? When I try to accept it says [Notify 16:53] Scotty the station manager has not finished preparing the item yet.
Again that make no sense what so ever, which is why it works. Some smart players will google the error, but ive even got 03 players with these fake error messages. Anything to get it off of contract and into a trade window. Then once they belive me that contract isnt working, I just say
If you want, you could just try direct station trade with me? If that dont work ill make a stuck petition to a GM.
The key with that is your giving them the option.. so they think your not gunna try a scam, most fail scammers I see in jita just throw open the trade window at you lol. Alittle bit of social engineering people it goes along way :)
Now looks like I need to find another way to make isk cos you all know about my lies now LOL hf
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