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jumbojohnny
Caldari Over The Hill Gang Minning corp.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 01:46:00 -
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ok so here i have a problem. i cant figure out what is better i have t2 heavy assaults and i have t1 heavies the heavies seem to go father but i have to drop a balistic control to add on the 6th heavy assault launcher any ideas on a fit?
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N Ano
Caldari AN Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.01 01:56:00 -
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Letting us know what your intentions are, your current fit and skills are would be a good idea. ECM, Eves little genital warts. |
Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.11.01 01:58:00 -
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T2 heavy assaults and T1 heavies?
you mean the missiles themselves? ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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jumbojohnny
Caldari Over The Hill Gang Minning corp.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:03:00 -
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ok well here is the fit and as for skills ill link my sheet. figure out from that what you would need.
Linkage for skills
fit is ---HIGHS--- 6 caldari heavy missile launchers
---Mids--- 1 pithi A type small shield booster 2 shield hardeners t2 invulns 2 cap recharger 2s 1 10mn t2
---LOWS--- 4 caldari navy balistic control
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 01/11/2010 02:10:38 subs?
also, sorry to say that your missile skills are abysmal ---
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jumbojohnny
Caldari Over The Hill Gang Minning corp.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:12:00 -
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yes they are lol im working on them as we speak lols...
electronic-dissolution sequencer defensive-amplification node engineering-augmented capacitor res offensive-accelerated ejection bay purpulsion-fuel catalyst
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:29:00 -
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Wait wait...
You are stepping into a T3 cruiser, which takes a fair bit training and...oh wait... your skills.
Industrialist turns combat pilot... Deteis scum.
You need to up lots of stuff... up your missile skills for one... get your Subsystems all up to 5.
Remember that there are two types of T2 missiles... shorter-range-more-damage, and longer-range-less-damage.
Heavy Missile Launchers (and their missiles) (HML for short) shoot more than twice the distance of Heavy Assault Launchers (and their missiles) (HAM for short).
E.g. On my Tengu, T2 HML with T1 Scourge will reach out to +- 70km. But T2 HAM with T1 Terror will only reach out to just under 30km.
It's a similar problem/tradeoff that Torpedo/Cruise Missile Raven/CNR/Rattlesnake/Golem pilots are faced with.
Personally, for PvE I got with the HML, as I'm not in the mood to have to chase some cruisers that like to sit at 35km+
Good luck with the ship. And some advice... try not to uber fit a Tengu... it's paper thin when not actively tanking and you'll almost always have an EM hole that suicide gankers will exploit. So limit your risk and fit T2 with just the deadspace booster. Not yet found a mission that could break that.
-G
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jumbojohnny
Caldari Over The Hill Gang Minning corp.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:40:00 -
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thanks now all i gotta do is get the skills up more and make him a little more on the crushing of the stuff without the huge faction fit
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Dark Ionix
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.01 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Ionix on 01/11/2010 04:11:38
[Tengu, Tengu: T2 Spam]
Co-Processor II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Cap Recharger II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Large Shield Booster II 10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
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Just do yourself a big favor Jumbo and fit your Tengu this way, it could save you alot of potential headaches in the future. I have personaly used this fit in every level 4 and it works great! There is no need for ridiculously expensive and unnecessary faction/officer mods that will get you ganked anyway, the low sig radious combined with the LAR II will more than comfortably soak up any heavy agro you may come across. One more thing, the five launchers with x4 BCS II's, along with offensive sub-system 5 will have you going through BS fast enough! Heavy faction fits are (in my opinion) silly and not necessary. Fly safe!
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Mike712
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Posted - 2010.11.01 05:32:00 -
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^Fail fit^
A tengu needs 6 launchers and rigor rigs.
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Dark Ionix
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.01 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mike712 ^Fail fit^
A tengu needs 6 launchers and rigor rigs.
Fail fit eh? Well that's funny because it's made me a lot of isk doing doing level 4's quite easily without a sixth launcher or rigor rigs! Go troll elsewhere you elitist douchbag!
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Kneebone
Heathens' Harbor
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Posted - 2010.11.01 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Ionix
Originally by: Mike712 ^Fail fit^
A tengu needs 6 launchers and rigor rigs.
Fail fit eh? Well that's funny because it's made me a lot of isk doing doing level 4's quite easily without a sixth launcher or rigor rigs! Go troll elsewhere you elitist douchbag!
Over tanked, under DPS'd would have made you more money if you had fit it with a 6th launcher and tanked what you needed to tank. It is a T3 mission ship, invest some ISK into it and be happy. Here ya go:
[Tengu, PvE] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Against Sansha, hardest to takn arguable, you will have a tank of 550+ DPS for 16 minutes with the AB running and you will speed tank a lot of the larger DPS. I use the following implants:
CR8 ZMH2000 CC* ZMS1000 ZMM1000
Does 661m/s, spits out 772dps with Scourge Fury, destroys basically everything, and with standard scourge missles frigs just die. Against Guri or SErp you can drop the 3rd hardner for ECCM or a Sensor Booster to compensate for the ewar. It could just be that the purpose of your life is to server as a warning to others. |
Muad 'dib
Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2010.11.01 13:50:00 -
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yeah its basicly impossible to have a fully t2 fit with missile rigs that tanks enough while using 6 launchers and 4 bcus, basicly must have faction small SB or fitting mods otherwise.
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mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.01 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: jumbojohnny ok so here i have a problem. i cant figure out what is better i have t2 heavy assaults and i have t1 heavies the heavies seem to go father but i have to drop a balistic control to add on the 6th heavy assault launcher any ideas on a fit?
This HAS to be a troll post. But okay... I'll bite, sorta.
http://tinyurl.com/36g728r
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Von Kroll
Caldari Kroll's Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:10:00 -
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This is about as pimped out as it needs to be to reliably run lvl 4's. You can ratchet up the isk on some more faction/deadspace mods where you want, but this setup will easily tank any Lvl 4 mission. You can actually use a T2 Med Booster with some meta 4/faction shield resist and/or shield boost amps or a 3% CPU implant. Start with something like this, and if you want to go crazy with the faction stuff, do it. If you can't fit 6 T2 HML's, use Arbalest (meta 4) until you can. This setup with proper missile support skills 1-volleys frigs, even without rigor rigs.
[Tengu, Lvl 4 T2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
10MN Afterburner II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Dread Guristas Medium Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I Medium Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
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Michael Sight
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Posted - 2010.11.02 03:01:00 -
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This is why Tengu gets a bad rap to many people trying to fly them before they have enough skill. OP get in a drake and when you can fly it with T 2 fit then think about a Tengu.
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Happy Lady
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Posted - 2010.11.02 03:44:00 -
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I use this. It permatanks pretty well everything. I use it for kinetic missions, though it works fine for em/therm as well, just switch out the ballistic for a em/therm. If you turn off the ab you can permaboost both for when you get 5x webbed, otherwise using one booster and using the ab speedtanks everything. If you don't have hml 2 skills, use cn missiles. I switch between cn missiles and furies.
I haven't tried using a rigor instead of the flares.
[Tengu, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster 10MN Afterburner II Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
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The Bonefish
Gallente Seniors Clan DEM0N HUNTERS
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Posted - 2010.11.02 15:39:00 -
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Clone Grade Alpha? I hear low sec missioning is very profitable
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