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Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:17:00 -
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whelp, date is set for November 20th
Will dust get in the news this fall also? Can console kiddies everywhere breath a sigh of relief soon?
Will dust make it to the xmas ball this year or will the restless youth of the world going to have to wait a little longer to buy a fashionable monocle on the Sony network?
Is CCP rethinking dust??
Not sure if a ccp employee has even typed the word DUST on the forums in months
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Charlotte The Harlot
La Villa Strangiato
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:22:00 -
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You are one butt ugly biatch....  |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:31:00 -
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Dude/dudette, your avatar terrifies me, and I don't scare easily...Just sayin'  |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:35:00 -
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and you two are generic and entirely forgettable
whats your point?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Hicksimus
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:40:00 -
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Morganta wrote:
whats your point?
Stupid and ugly......
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:43:00 -
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Hicksimus wrote:Morganta wrote:
whats your point?
Stupid and ugly......
^^Beat me to it. Ug-ug-ugly with a capital "UG." Outrageousness for its' own sake =/= good, OK.
I think my Tarryn is quite rakishly handsome, by the way
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Tenchi Sal
DeathStar Systems
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:44:00 -
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comparing TOR to DUST? seriously? thats like comparing WoW to call of duty. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:44:00 -
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Are you a Dr Who monster? |
Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:55:00 -
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seeing as noone else has, guess ill say it. dust has already been confirmed for a summer 2012 release. it was announced at e3 along with its ps3 exclusivity. closed beta is expected by the end of the year, devs are already having thier own private beta test.
and no i wont link any sources, find them yourself, they are pretty much everywhere
We Want Space Penguins! |
Generals4
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Posted - 2011.09.24 20:59:00 -
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Morganta wrote:whelp, date is set for November 20th
Will dust get in the news this fall also? Can console kiddies everywhere breath a sigh of relief soon?
Will dust make it to the xmas ball this year or will the restless youth of the world going to have to wait a little longer to buy a fashionable monocle on the Sony network?
Is CCP rethinking dust??
Not sure if a ccp employee has even typed the word DUST on the forums in months
Get your facts straight, SWTOR is set for 20/22 december (depending on whether you're in the US or EU) and not november.
And also, what's the point of this topic? |
Information Agent
Apparently Miners
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Posted - 2011.09.24 21:02:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Are you a Dr Who monster?
Or a living, breathing, Rorschach inkblot test. 
On topic: I think the '514' in the title refers to the thickness in millimetres of the 'dust' layer that will be settled on everything just before the game is released but long after the target audience has experienced many many other great shooters and already has a ps4 or 5.
Remember, 18 months = 1 x room + solitary confinement/vanity closet + 1 x understocked Primark/Debenhams or (if you are a south western english person with humour), a 'Tragomills clothing rail'. |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.24 21:07:00 -
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Who honestly cares about TOR?
I'm dead serious here. People play EvE because of Serious Internet Spaceships. TOR is literally WoW in space. There is zero overlap. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
13
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Posted - 2011.09.25 01:35:00 -
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10 posts of people caring about stupid internet spaceship pilot avatar faces. Goon dude is doing right. |
mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.25 01:52:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:10 posts of people caring about stupid internet spaceship pilot avatar faces. Goon dude is doing right.
You just blew my mind...
a goon, yes a goon, is the only person in the thread on topic. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.09.25 02:10:00 -
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considering one is on pc, the other is on console your arguement is invalid, besides, its Lucas arts, look and what Lucas has done to the original trilogy, he prolly bent over his game also. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.09.25 02:11:00 -
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Swtor will die in 2-3 months afrter release because there is nothing new just WoW in SW Universe.
"MMO-like' single player RPG without highlevel content? No thanks. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.25 02:14:00 -
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old republic and dust are not gonna compete with each other... lol... fail op. |
BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.09.25 02:23:00 -
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TOR isn't going to last that long, stupid bad mmo project. It's only a partial revive of WoW in another universe.. LucasArts ruined themselves years ago don't expect something good ever, or well supported from them. (shh... nvm sw:g)
have fun playing ToR dishing LA more money to make more bad games. bioware has way more better projects at hand, like masseffect 3. 
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
3
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Posted - 2011.09.25 02:29:00 -
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There's a ton of people from Galaxies who will be getting into TOR, and a ton of Star Wars fans that will gladly subscribe to it. Not to mention the people out there looking for anything other than WoW at this point.
The sad thing is that EVE is probably nowhere on those peoples' radars.
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Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.25 02:34:00 -
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Basileus Volkan wrote:Who honestly cares about TOR?
I'm dead serious here. People play EvE because of Serious Internet Spaceships. TOR is literally WoW in space. There is zero overlap.
QFT |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.25 03:06:00 -
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The Dust 514 beta will probably be held this fall or winter, with the game releasing on PSN in summer 2012.
Why you think this has anything to do with The Old Republic is beyond me. |
Trainwreck McGee
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.09.25 03:11:00 -
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**** SWTOR
all hail GW2
CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Russell Casey
Black Corsairs
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Posted - 2011.09.25 03:27:00 -
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I have my doubts. For one thing, SWTOR is going to be following WoW's tank/dps/healer system (so have fun deciding between playing a class you like and a class that will get into groups) and for another I know a guy playing the Beta who says it's crap. Just to clarify, he's playing star trek online right now. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.25 03:56:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:I have my doubts. For one thing, SWTOR is going to be following WoW's tank/dps/healer system (so have fun deciding between playing a class you like and a class that will get into groups) and for another I know a guy playing the Beta who says it's crap. Just to clarify, he's playing star trek online right now.
And we are playing EVE.
Your point? |
Freako X
Deviant Inc
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Posted - 2011.09.25 04:16:00 -
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I think SW:TOR will be successful. But that title is vastly different that than EVE or DUST 514.
Eve and DUST won't need to worry. If DUST and say Gears of WAR 3 (or similar FPS) were released on the same Tuesday ... I'd worry. Heck, I need to get a blu-ray and DUST may have me buying a PS3 instead.
Eve and TOR are so different, they can't be compared. |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.09.25 06:15:00 -
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SW:TOR is ****..
I know several people in beta for it ATM, and lets just say what LA did to it makes the NGE seem like not a big deal. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.09.25 06:37:00 -
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SWTOR will not die in a few months lol.
If anything I suspect it will become one the biggest MMO's in the world
I have played the beta and yes I personally I thought it was crap, but then again I think WoW is crap but millions of people play it.
What you are doing is giving all the WoW crowd a chance to play WoW buts as Jedi's.
WIll it effect Eve, most likely not.
If you are playing Eve it is likely because you have tried MMO's which follow the WoW model or WoW itself and found them boring.
All those other MMO players who either like WoW or the MMO's which follow the WoW model will love SWTOR.
Comparing SWTOR to Dust is like comparing an old beat up crackhead STD riddle ***** to Kelly Brook..
2 completely different things. |
Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.25 07:26:00 -
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mkint wrote:a goon, yes a goon, is the only person in the thread on topic.
To be fair, he is a member of MRCHI...
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.25 08:09:00 -
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TOR looks like a WoW clone to me, only with different art. I'd say they're aiming directly for Blizzard's gnads. If it does anything to Dust it'll be collateral damage.
If I get back into a WoW-like game it's probably be Guild Wars 2. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2011.09.25 08:35:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:I have my doubts. For one thing, SWTOR is going to be following WoW's tank/dps/healer system (so have fun deciding between playing a class you like and a class that will get into groups) and for another I know a guy playing the Beta who says it's crap. Just to clarify, he's playing star trek online right now.
instead of relying on people thinking for themselves and taking responsibility on their own (like GW2)?
yeah... every pug I join shows me how well that will work out. That 12 y/o dps player who likes big swords and thinks IPWNU666 is a cool character name will totally stop standing in fire if you give him even more responsibility...
In the traditional model you can compensate for a fair amount of stupid by having good players in the key positions. In a "everyone takes care of himself and chooses between "roles" based on situation" model the group will just fail. |
Shai 'Hulud
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.09.25 09:21:00 -
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I'm not sure how you all seem to think TOR will have no impact on EVE. Do you think WoW has had no impact on EVE? Do you honestly think that EVE will not lose current or otherwise prospective subscriptions due to this massively hyped MMO release? The question is not "how similar are EVE and TOR?", but rather "how many EVE players will try TOR and decide to make it their MMO of choice?"
This is a MMO. For it to remain successfull people have to keep deciding to play it instead of another game. Other game releases, particularly hyped MMO releases which will tie up player's time much longer than single player game releases, have a HUGE impact on the world of EVE.
Blizzard AND CCP are shitting in their pants over the TOR release, that much I can garauntee you. |
beor oranes
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
6
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Posted - 2011.09.25 09:31:00 -
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I am currently waiting on...nothing cos I only play Eve. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.25 10:46:00 -
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SWTOR will be big, second-biggest MMO after WoW probably - for at least a year or two.
It's not really like WoW so much as KOTOR with mates, which is just what the doctor ordered. Don't underestimate the power of a good story and good voice acting for immersion. BioWare have been dining off that for years. If they can do the same thing in an MMO format, the game will be a success.
It won't necessarily be a success with ex-player from other MMOs, but it might be a huge success for a bunch of newbie players who have never tried an MMO before but will try this because it's Star Wars. The great mass of gamers never touch MMOs, so it's still a huge untapped market out there. Story and VO might disguise the "grind" that's the complaint of most non-MMO players about MMOs, sufficiently so that they get into it.
The only problem is that even if you have several classes with unique stories, and the stories are good, and the voice acting is great, and sustained in quality right through to max level, if there's nothing beyond that to do with your super character in terms of endgame, it's not going to have staying power for more than a year or two even for the most fanatical Star Wars fan.
However that may not matter to BioWare, they might just be counting on large numbers trying it and sticking with it for a few months, and this happening for maybe two or three years - or maybe they do have some clever plans for endgame content up their sleeve, who knows? (I think if they could make endgame largely PvP, then they might crack that problem.)
But it's not a competitor to EVE at all, nor to DUST514. |
Russell Casey
Black Corsairs
15
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Posted - 2011.09.25 14:10:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:Russell Casey wrote:I have my doubts. For one thing, SWTOR is going to be following WoW's tank/dps/healer system (so have fun deciding between playing a class you like and a class that will get into groups) and for another I know a guy playing the Beta who says it's crap. Just to clarify, he's playing star trek online right now. instead of relying on people thinking for themselves and taking responsibility on their own (like GW2)? yeah... every pug I join shows me how well that will work out. That 12 y/o dps player who likes big swords and thinks IPWNU666 is a cool character name will totally stop standing in fire if you give him even more responsibility... In the traditional model you can compensate for a fair amount of stupid by having good players in the key positions. In a "everyone takes care of himself and chooses between "roles" based on situation" model the group will just fail.
Then you join a guild and find that kid is the only healer who's ever on at the same time you are and you can't say squat because you're DPS and dime a dozen. You either deal with it, leave, or make an alt. And what happens when your tank is pissed off with your healer, or has to log off for RL issues and it's a two-hour wait before you can find another one? Or when the raid leader decides the drop some dps for another healer? I didn't leave WoW because I hated filling a role, I left it because your role defines your place in society like a damned caste system.
That comes up in EVE sometimes too, but it still lets a person say **** You and walkaway and still have the same stuff as somebody in a null alliance if you're smart about getting it.
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Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.25 14:31:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:mkint wrote:a goon, yes a goon, is the only person in the thread on topic. To be fair, he is a member of MRCHI...
We're so far over the edge, we turn badposts into goodposts. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.25 15:44:00 -
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Have pre-order, will travel....for a time. Just got it last week infact.
Need a distraction from EVE, cause the click and point interface + WTZ + manual request jump zone line + WTZ + manual request jump zone line + align + instant lock + shoot + pod = tediously boring aspects I long stopped caring about when EQ1 came out back in 1999. Just need to get away from it, the main account will stay active but probably going to shut down the alt account, cash out the isk for PLEX, and join a friend for something different.
Why Star Wars you wonder? Cause its different. WoW was all of 2 hours before I uninstalled. Friend and I have done the fantasy bit to death in EQ, EQ2, and Vanguard then the comic hero in CoH/V. . We loved tabula rasa, because sci-fi genre was something new and sadly it lacked direction so it died a quick death within 8 months. WoT was a stupid mistake, get to tier 5 and next thing you know you end up facing the equivilent of super caps all day and you are badly outclassed. EVE is ok to keep the sci-fi addiction going, but its starting to wear off and we are getting distracted...like checking out the blonde as you walk past her on the street then looking at the brunette up ahead. Old republic looks very much like Mass Effect with different graphics, being a Bioware product they implemented that good vs bad choices type system you can see in some of the game play trailers and it kind of looks like a console game + MMO.
and personally, I despise the idea of Jedi. Something about silent rage emo boys, guys wielding beam sabers, dancing around like leaping tigers in the trees, brother kissing his sister...is so Japanese and asian influenced that I want to slug George Lucas in the head with a large heavy fire extinguisher. |
Mastertz
Red Ghost Recon
14
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Posted - 2011.09.25 15:58:00 -
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Here come the trolls....
Alert the internets SWTOR is releasing, the sky is falling. All of these posts are the same yawnfests making the same claims, SWTOR is a themepark MMO, Eve is a sandbox.
Do you know what a Venn diagram is? |
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