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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.07 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Krotfric McEnchroe The concept of the chip war was fun, nice and hectic when it all came together.
Yes too bad the rest of the game was utter ****e. Endless and extremely boring grinding and a lot of bots.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.07 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Yea I wonder what is with the love of grinding in Asian MMOs. its like they openly enjoy grinding for the sake of it. Sure Everquest was a grind but it went somewhere. some grinds I have come across in asian MMOs do not have a final destination for said grind.
Yeah. Grinding in any game at all usually tells me that the game is poorly thought-out and designed. Also, grind is boring, no matter what form it's in.
Though my main reason for leaving Aion was the ones I gave before. It sounds like you've played Aion. Did you have any experiences with the gm's or customer service that was as horrid as mine? I'd sooner recommend someone play hello kitty adventures after dealing with the lot of morons that makes up ncsoft's team...
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Mistress Motion
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Posted - 2010.11.07 19:22:00 -
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One good example of "asian grindfest" was Knight Online, at least at the time when malaysian servers were still online (and lagging). Hell, I played it for ages, and never got to max level. And when you died, you lost some damn exp... If you wanted to get faster exp, you needed to buy items from item shop. Leveling was so much grinding, that it felt like EVERYONE is using bots, and grinding death knights and some skeletons at the same damn field. So then everyone made alts to be "lurers", naked rogues running with only a bow and bringing big trolls near the group and going stealth, usually killing the whole group. Oh well, mages (like me) were probably only ones who were AOE grinding harpys manually, though it really wasn't fun.
In PVP, you earned "national points" when you killed someone. When you ran out of points, you started losing exp. So when you were hanging at 0 points, only thing you could do was camp in your own safezone, and try to ninja kills near that, and run to safety instantly when someone came after you. And yeah, if you forgot to leave your money to bank before you went to PVP zone, you lost half your money when you got killed. Rogues all used a bug where they could cancel the cooldown on some skills and hit like a crazed woodpecker on meth. Max level mages just spammed 2 AOE spells, because there where no instant spells, and every tiny hit cancelled your spellcasting.
HP buff scrolls actually about doubled your health, so you HAD to use them all the time. Other option was a priest buff which ofcourse vanished when you died, so the priest needed to buff everyone all the time (must've been really annoying). But you could only get HP scrolls from item shop, or really expensive from players who used RL money to sell them ingame.
The community... Oh dear god. Though there were some really great people, that I still keep in touch with after so many years, 90-95% of people only spoke turkish. And all they did was beg, beg, beg, and everyone wrote with CAPS LOCK. Aargh. Seemed like there was almost no players over 10y old.
So, I guess that would be my choice. Don't really know how it goes in US Knight Online nowadays, I think it's still online and going today?
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Talanayaa
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Posted - 2010.11.07 21:24:00 -
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Compared to other mmos eve community is golden. Make no mistake about that.
The worst mmo I ever played was second life. I played it only for a few days but it still makes me wanna puke.
The second place goes to warhammer online, an epic failure on so many levels. It's like a really bad version of wow with a warhammer title slapped over it.
And the third one is wow. A lot of bad points I dont want to argue anymore, plus community consists of bunch of adolescents and 8 year olds.
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.08 02:39:00 -
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Kind of strange how everyone in this thread only lists MMO's they don't like, rather than actually bad ones.
So far i've only seen 3 actually bad MMO's mentioned.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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razor haze
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Posted - 2010.11.08 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Baneken
Originally by: Barakkus
They tried it again with Wintergrasp, then they ended up having to implement zone limits for the battles, which sucked. Real pvp was arenas though, the rest was just repeatedly pwning people with lesser skills and gear imo. Arenas really is the only challenging pvp in WoW.
I loved walking into ironforge or whatever that other city was and just pwning anyone and everyone that would either be flagged or flagged themselves. A small group of 5 or 6 could take the auction house for hours lol.
Back in the good'ol days not even a 100 man raid(s) managed to do that but then again Ragnaros was real PvP-server, unlike the one you inhabited but we did killed the gnome king and the dwarf kings at least once though and the alliance retaliated by trying to kill sylvanas. Then again lvl limit was 60 and the guards would spawn endlessly until server crashed or Alliance PvP-guilds got their **** together.
We also had "organised" "noob" trains that basically tried to live long enough to reach the Stormwind or IF while killing every single alliance player that was stupid enough to have a flag on while on ...
Good times.
That does sound fun right there!
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.08 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha Kind of strange how everyone in this thread only lists MMO's they don't like, rather than actually bad ones.
So far i've only seen 3 actually bad MMO's mentioned.
I would think this is because it's a person's opinion when he or she dubs an mmo "bad", which is the same as them not liking the mmo.
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Zantris
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Posted - 2010.11.08 10:13:00 -
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AoC is actually one of the best MMOs out right now.
Mortal Online was the absolute worst one I've ever tried.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.08 11:38:00 -
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The worst MMO that I have ever played is EVE Online. The best MMO that I have ever played is EVE Online.
In fact, the only MMO that I have ever played is EVE Online
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.11.08 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik The worst MMO that I have ever played is EVE Online. The best MMO that I have ever played is EVE Online.
In fact, the only MMO that I have ever played is EVE Online
This
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Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2010.11.09 00:28:00 -
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For me the Worst MMO, as in total loss of time, effort, money was DDO ... I couldn't stand it, I still can't, same with Warhammer Online, so much time dedicated to my goblin healer, ui mods, healing output efficiency , ugh. Same with Vanguard ... or my stupid year long sub to Tabula Rasa
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Dungeons and Dragons Online Warhammer Online Vanguard Tabula Rasa
Even tho Tabula Rasa is dead, the other games I mentioned, have for me, the same feeling of utter senselessness as Tabula Rasa when I began to realize during my mid 20's that the next 20 or more levels would be exactly the same ... ugh ---
Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.09 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 09/11/2010 01:54:48
Originally by: Reiisha Kind of strange how everyone in this thread only lists MMO's they don't like, rather than actually bad ones.
So far i've only seen 3 actually bad MMO's mentioned.
not liking it is usually why people list WoW, as the game itself is very well made.
However some games on these lists where in fact just plain bad. Vanguard for example had lots of potential but when it came out it was riddled with bugs and bad performance, people on all computer types saw massive memory leaks which lead to the game grinding to a hault and/or crashing unless you camped something like every 2hrs of play. When vanguard came out it was far from ready and they knew this, but it is my opinion that they wanted to beat Burning Crusade expansion to WoW to market.
In fact This is the big flaw I see with many new MMORPGs, they rush them to market to meet special release points rather than giving it another few months in testing. or they are rushed out to beat some other AAA title or expansion to a certain popular MMO
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Cyprus Black
Caldari Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
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Posted - 2010.11.09 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha Kind of strange how everyone in this thread only lists MMO's they don't like, rather than actually bad ones.
So far i've only seen 3 actually bad MMO's mentioned.
The title of the thread is Worst MMOs You've Played.
It implies that the OP wants an opinion of our experiences with MMOs. __________________________________________________
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Nuts Nougat
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.11.09 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Nuts Nougat on 09/11/2010 10:07:21
Originally by: CCP Adida I'm going to have to say Lineage2 was one of the worst I ever played. Not because of the graphics or bugs because I din't find too many during launch. It was a grind fest. I don't mind grinding you get to know your group members and make new friends. But it took me a month to get to level 25 playing casually. I played in the same zone killing the same group of mobs for way too long.
I also remember this. However, l2.ru is free to play now so I went there and tried it to see if it's changed. Got to level 30 in maybe 6-8 hours of gameplay. Apparently at higher levels it's still a gigantic grindfest though...
Edit for on-topicness: The worst I've played? Definitely that game called eve online. Incidentally it is also the best I've played. ---
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Sral TBear
Macaroni family
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Posted - 2010.11.09 10:28:00 -
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nut been around to many but the worst one for me was and is pirates of the burning sea...
Close in "even with the 1.32 etc" is Battle ground europe, but that is just because of infantry lag, got fed up by being shot by ghosts...they fix that and im back with the mp-40....
So i just play eve abit.....and fly my ww2 combat sim....
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.09 10:54:00 -
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This thread makes it abundantly clear why it is unlikely any sophisticated MMO will ever succeed again. People are just expecting too much from a newly launched game.
If WoW or (even worse) EVE was launched today in the state they were in the beginning they would both be dead and buried within a couple months.
People have just gotten too high expectations based on long running franchises that have had years to polish, expand and stabilize, something new arrivals will never be able to have without turning into vapourware. ---
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Zeredek
Gallente Vanguard Venture
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Posted - 2010.11.09 12:52:00 -
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EVE Online.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.09 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Thuul'Khalat This thread makes it abundantly clear why it is unlikely any sophisticated MMO will ever succeed again. People are just expecting too much from a newly launched game.
If WoW or (even worse) EVE was launched today in the state they were in the beginning they would both be dead and buried within a couple months.
People have just gotten too high expectations based on long running franchises that have had years to polish, expand and stabilize, something new arrivals will never be able to have without turning into vapourware.
Hmmm. I think it has more to do with the fact that not a single mmo have come out within the last 10 years or so with any creative, new, or interesting gameplay. 99.99% of them are kill x, bring y, get experience/money/etc.
In other words, every fantasy mmo is a copy of WoW. WoW is a copy of EQ. EQ is a copy of... well, I dunno, EQ was the first I played. People get tired of playing the same thing over and over.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.09 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Hmmm. I think it has more to do with the fact that not a single mmo have come out within the last 10 years or so with any creative, new, or interesting gameplay. 99.99% of them are kill x, bring y, get experience/money/etc.
In other words, every fantasy mmo is a copy of WoW. WoW is a copy of EQ. EQ is a copy of... well, I dunno, EQ was the first I played. People get tired of playing the same thing over and over.
Indeed. I wonder why so many spend their days endlessly killing green trolls so that they one day can do exactly the same while killing endless amounts of red trolls. Its so exciting when you later fight the brown trolls that do exactly the same as the green and red trolls.
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