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Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:21:00 -
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I read a post earlier about some 3 year player binning his character because he was suicide ganked and then lost his Golem (LOL) to Concord because he "shot a Noctis" (i.e. he was an idiot and made a huge mistake).
I'm an 8 year+ player (I've lost count to be frank) and I've had at least two accounts subbed at a minimum for the entire 8+ years. This month will be the first time in 8 years that I have no characters in training.
Why? CCP has continued and will continue to make Eve less lethal. CCP continually makes Eve a safer place, easier to survive, with fewer opportunities to die horribly as a result of your mistakes. Essentially, they've dumbed down the game, and continue to do so.
When I was a new player, Eve was incredibly lethal. Jump into a .4, get your face blown off. Rinse, repeat. Your life span was usually dictated by how long you could hold your cloak at a gate. This part of the game was what kept me coming back for more. Extreme risk, extreme danger, extreme loss if you make a mistake.
Eve PVP is now garbage. It's not that the balance is that bad, or the mechanics are terrible. That part of the game is just fine. It's the inability to have non-concentual PVP. 99% of the time, if you get a fight it's because either A) the other side wanted to fight, or B) the other side made such a huge mistake that they ignored all signs of danger for 10+ minutes while you 'snuck up on them' in broad daylight, broadcasting your presence in local. Anyway, I digress.
With every change, CCP has removed risk, weighted the balance towards the defender and generally pampered those players who otherwise would have been murdered like sleeping baby seals.
Maybe one day the game will turn the corner and CCP will start making it more lethal again. I seriously doubt it, but it might happen. Until then, it's looking less and less likely that I'll find it worthwhile to log back in. It's sad really. CCP has finally managed to pummel my fanatical enthusiasm for the game into mush. I've been transformed from Eve evangelist to apathetic apologist. And the worst part is, all the other aspects of Eve have never been better: graphics, new ship models, missile trails, interface updates, market improvements, industry, invention, etc. etc. etc.
But that's not what Eve is about. Eve is about PVP. And until CCP fixes that, it's not worth subbing. Such a waste. Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1245
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:25:00 -
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Eeeeeeh.
Better than "I lost a hulk, I quit" ... perhaps. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
360
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:29:00 -
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I know that feel, bro. We'll keep doing the work and hopefully some day the conditions will be right for the good people to come back.
Let us know if you find something better. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
430
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:31:00 -
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Mors Sanctitatis wrote: But that's not what Eve is about. Eve is about PVP. And until CCP fixes that, it's not worth subbing. Such a waste.
Eve is not about PvP, PvP is a part of EvE same as mining, trading, manufacturing, Mission running, Incursions and much, much more. Given that they have just spent a full cycle on "War" as the focus due to the prodding of CSM 6 can you honestly be surprised at things being rebalanced.
And hell for real PvP there are wormholes or FW. Hell I hardly call runing into a 0.4 and dying time after time good for the game But I digress if you want more pvp you could even try NPC Null sec.
EvE is not safe but the bits that are supposed to be SAFER are getting that way. Everyone has there own playing style and all should be accommodated, just not in ways that make no sense. So you love PvP there are lots of places left actually including more systems than in the whole of empire. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
496
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:31:00 -
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Yeah, take a break, learn the banjo, whateva.
Just don't biomass your SP like that other fool.
My handy random number generator predicts that there is a 1% chance that the ruthless EVE we knew and loved will return some day. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1245
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:33:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Yeah, take a break, learn the banjo, whateva.
Just don't biomass your SP like that other fool.
My handy random number generator predicts that there is a 1% chance that the ruthless EVE we knew and loved will return some day. Hopefully we'll be the 1% then har har.
Just like being barely scratched by an Avatar - leading to the explosion of your pod. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Sinnful
Lorentz Technology Group
13
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:33:00 -
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Got to do it... Can i haz ur stuffz |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
852
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:33:00 -
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It's a shame that EVE is losing a worthy player, but I find your cause righteous. Personally, as of now, I'm giving the game a year to change its course, however slightly, or I will do the same. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
162
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:33:00 -
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Fair point.. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Attica
Social Destortion
0
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:45:00 -
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Eh I have had this account since 6/04/2003, have lost dozens of ships due to me falling asleep while mining and not paying attention to which sytem I was jumping to. Eve is pvp at its core but like all things it MUST evolve. Science and Industry are HUGE in Eve due to the pvp'ing and things have to be made a lil safer for the makers and shakers of the industry sector. Personally I think certain systems should be 100% safe, say .8+, but thats just my personal feelings. Bottom line is that the game, like everything else, must evolve or die a slow death.
Edit- I just returned form a 3-4 year break with both my accounts so CCP is breaking even with you leaving and me returning |
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:46:00 -
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Posting in Goons ruined Eve thread. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:46:00 -
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why u mad ?
Maybe you should have gotten mad when ccp sold out aka those shetbag monocles. HTFU CCP U SOLD OUT CCP
Wow, 80 dollars for a in game item ROFL i guess they where a right
"A fool and his money are soon parted"
fo 80 dollars i better get a real monocle ROFL |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
137
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:47:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:
Just don't biomass your SP like that other fool.
Confirming this. I was one of the fools that biomassed but stumbled onto a kind GM to restore me a year later (had to change name slightly).
I think I know who the op is or who his character was from one encounter long ago. Rudely interrupted while killing a freighter in low sec from orvolle?
Sad to see real worthy players like yourself go. And lol at that guy lecturing the OP about eve |
Rahnim
MOOGOO Partners Eternal Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:49:00 -
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This is because of greyscales sentry idea isn't it? Greyscale is good at making eve players unsub looking back at things I recall a certain anomaly nerf he decided to do a while back... this personly made me unsub my alts so I only use a single char now |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1247
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:49:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:It's disturbing that when we're talking about EVE pvp, we're counting the "places left" instead of the "places added." Yeah.
Why soon enough, it'll all be about bubbles when the lowsec gates are finally made too "hot" for camping. Hehe. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
764
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:50:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:
Just don't biomass your SP like that other fool.
Confirming this. I was one of the fools that biomassed but stumbled onto a kind GM to restore me a year later (had to change name slightly). I think I know who the op is or who his character was from one encounter long ago. Rudely interrupted while killing a freighter in low sec from orvolle? Sad to see real worthy players like yourself go. And lol at that guy lecturing the OP about eve
Not to worry, I'm not biomassing anything. I'm not an idiot lol... (present company excluded btw).
And with respect to freighter mortis interruptus- maybe, lol. Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED. |
Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
765
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:58:00 -
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Rahnim wrote:This is because of greyscales sentry idea isn't it? Greyscale is good at making eve players unsub looking back at things I recall a certain anomaly nerf he decided to do a while back... this personly made me unsub my alts so I only use a single char now
Not in a specific sense, but in a general sense. Basically, the mindset that proliferates ideas like this, not the specific idea itself.
But, on the subject of the sentry change: if the CCP devs ever tried to fight 7+ people on a gate while solo and enduring gate guns the entire time, they would never have considered this change an option.
Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED. |
Apollo gun
BLOOM. Bloomswarm
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:59:00 -
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your stuff ? |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
107
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:04:00 -
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So this is more about the fact that gate squatters can no longer do it with impunity, right? Cause the gate guns will be more lehtal, not less.
But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
853
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:07:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us. That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
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Attica
Social Destortion
0
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:14:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us. That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game.
No one player is that important. 'Content creating', whatever that means, or not. |
YUMAD BRO
Aliastra Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:17:00 -
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EVE.....
Dying a slow, painful death.....
Good thing Planetside 2 is almost here YAY!!
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Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
766
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:18:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:So this is more about the fact that gate squatters can no longer do it with impunity, right? Cause the gate guns will be more lehtal, not less.
But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us.
Always the guy in the NPC corp. Without fail. LOL. Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
854
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:19:00 -
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Attica wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us. That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game. No one player is that important. 'Content creating', whatever that means, or not. Wrong. There are plenty of players who lead others, invent new tactics and strategies, maintain markets, create OOG tools and apps, et cetera, who are infinitely more valuable than whole busloads of the revolving-door carebear filth that spends half of its half-year subscription periods begging for the ability to mine rocks with impunity, and then leaves when it gets bored anyway. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
766
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:19:00 -
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YUMAD BRO wrote:EVE.....
Dying a slow, painful death.....
Good thing Planetside 2 is almost here YAY!!
No joke. I played PS1 until Sony ruined it and dumbed it down into oblivion. Hopefully that doesn't happen to PS2... Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED. |
Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
766
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:20:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Attica wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us. That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game. No one player is that important. 'Content creating', whatever that means, or not. Wrong. There are plenty of players who lead others, invent new tactics and strategies, maintain markets, create OOG tools and apps, et cetera, who are infinitely more valuable than whole busloads of the revolving-door carebear filth that spends half of its half-year subscription periods begging for the ability to mine rocks with impunity, and then leaves when it gets bored anyway.
Daaaayyyyyyammmm.... just daaaayyyyyaammm. Lol.
Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
347
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:21:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:...who are infinitely more valuable than whole busloads of the revolving-door carebear filth... Oh come on. Don't be so hard on yourself. |
Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
247
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:22:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Posting in Goons ruined Eve thread. No, you're not. |
Attica
Social Destortion
0
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:24:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Attica wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:But whatever, leave. More for the rest of us. That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game. No one player is that important. 'Content creating', whatever that means, or not. Wrong. There are plenty of players who lead others, invent new tactics and strategies, maintain markets, create OOG tools and apps, et cetera, who are infinitely more valuable than whole busloads of the revolving-door carebear filth that spends half of its half-year subscription periods begging for the ability to mine rocks with impunity, and then leaves when it gets bored anyway.
Opinions, by their very nature, cannot be wrong. You use of 'carebear filth' leads me to think you're an elitist with no ability to see the game in an unbiased way, if I am wrong I apologise but I never pay much attention to elitist thoughts, although they are certainly entitled to them.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1248
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:25:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Attica wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game.
No one player is that important. 'Content creating', whatever that means, or not. Wrong. There are plenty of players who lead others, invent new tactics and strategies, maintain markets, create OOG tools and apps, et cetera, who are infinitely more valuable than whole busloads of the revolving-door carebear filth that spends half of its half-year subscription periods begging for the ability to mine rocks with impunity, and then leaves when it gets bored anyway. Oh my, player-driven content eh. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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