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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.12 21:53:00 -
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I have conflicting rumors claiming march 2011 and December 2010. Presumably high king Blizzard mentioned relesing two titles in 2010 (one of which was obivously sc2), but failed to note if they counted Cataclysm (who cares about that garbage).
Thoughts, opinions, rumors of your own?
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.11.12 21:58:00 -
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As long as WoW is the cash cow, no D3.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.12 21:59:00 -
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Sooner it comes, worse it will be. |
Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.12 22:14:00 -
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Good shiptoasting.
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F0rum Tr0ll
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.12 23:00:00 -
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If it ever comes out, it'll be insta-obsolete compared to what is already coming out.
I saw the trailer scenes on the website and it looked meh.
I loved the D series, but its just not relevant anymore I think.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.12 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: F0rum Tr0ll If it ever comes out, it'll be insta-obsolete compared to what is already coming out.
I saw the trailer scenes on the website and it looked meh.
I loved the D series, but its just not relevant anymore I think.
How's it not relavent? It's not supposed to compete with an mmo if that's what you're getting at.
Show me another 3rd person mutliplayer rpg that's worth a **** and i'll eat my hat.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.12 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Originally by: F0rum Tr0ll If it ever comes out, it'll be insta-obsolete compared to what is already coming out.
I saw the trailer scenes on the website and it looked meh.
I loved the D series, but its just not relevant anymore I think.
How's it not relavent? It's not supposed to compete with an mmo if that's what you're getting at.
Show me another 3rd person mutliplayer rpg that's worth a **** and i'll eat my hat.
Diablo 2.
*Holds out a sombrero*
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.13 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: F0rum Tr0ll If it ever comes out, it'll be insta-obsolete compared to what is already coming out.
I saw the trailer scenes on the website and it looked meh.
I loved the D series, but its just not relevant anymore I think.
....?
All diablo games are epic. They will never be obsolete. They will always have a place in the faithful's hearts.
Blasphemers....
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Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.13 00:24:00 -
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First - Diablo 3 comes not before 2012. Second in march 2011 comes Torchlight 2 thats from the real makers of D1 & D2.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.13 01:25:00 -
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why ppl debate about a crap game like that i dont get it diablo stop to be funny 15 years ago
Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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F0rum Tr0ll
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.13 03:11:00 -
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I thought Torchlight was D3 under a different name. Its not the same, but...meh..close enough? Will it be better than dragon age?
I'm sure it'll be ok when it comes out, but I still don't see them justifying it taking 10+ years or whatever to bring it out...
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.13 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: F0rum Tr0ll
I'm sure it'll be ok when it comes out, but I still don't see them justifying it taking 10+ years or whatever to bring it out...
Because they don't crank out **** titles/content every six months... *cough* and uh.. I consider WoW to be a grave mistake that is un-related.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
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Posted - 2010.11.13 06:10:00 -
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Probably won't be either dates as the new WoW expansion is set for December 7th.
Educated guess says around June or August of 2011. __________________________________________________
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.13 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/11/2010 06:55:35
Originally by: F0rum Tr0ll If it ever comes out, it'll be insta-obsolete compared to what is already coming out.
I saw the trailer scenes on the website and it looked meh.
I loved the D series, but its just not relevant anymore I think.
I'm inclined to agree. Top down dungeon crawlers are the fare of browser games now. Even if they spend another year putting bells and whistles on it, it won't make much difference.
I'll end up playing it out of curiousity because i enjoyed the others, but i won't be paying the kind of money i do for new titles. Which means unless they offer it for 20 bucks or something, i'll be visiting a certain bay to obtain it.
It's not like Blizzard is hurting for cash, anyway.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.13 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I'm inclined to agree. Top down dungeon crawlers are the fare of browser games now.
The fact you can compare the diablo series to browser trash means you either:
a) Never played the orignials when they were new. b) Have completely lost touch with the genre.
Not saying D3 is going to take down any MMO titles with it's popularity, because that's a diffirent audience entirely, but it's no secret there are no other rpg titles with equal replay value and attention to detail.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.11.13 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I'm inclined to agree. Top down dungeon crawlers are the fare of browser games now.
The fact you can compare the diablo series to browser trash means you either:
a) Never played the orignials when they were new. b) Have completely lost touch with the genre.
Not saying D3 is going to take down any MMO titles with it's popularity, because that's a diffirent audience entirely, but it's no secret there are no other rpg titles with equal replay value and attention to detail.
People will be buying D3 by the millions, I have no doubt about that. You are full of **** about it being the best RPG with it's replay value and attention to detail though.
Diablo games have minimal(none really in D1 & D2) roleplaying and the games are basicly just gear grinds with simplistic hack&slash gameplay. This means there is little replay value, since there is no point in replaying anything. Everyone does the exact same stuff and there are no choices to be made. You just choose a character with a gameplay style you like the most, then you grind the same foes for better gear and more levels until you get bored and quit. The attention to detail is extreme in the gameplay area and gear, but the system has always also been very simple, since the whole game is just a light hearted hack&slash game with gameplay polished to perfection. Again, very detailed and enjoyable games, but only on a so limited area, that it makes any comparisons against real RPGs just silly.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.13 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Selinate on 13/11/2010 19:12:33
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
People will be buying D3 by the millions, I have no doubt about that. You are full of **** about it being the best RPG with it's replay value and attention to detail though.
Diablo games have minimal(none really in D1 & D2) roleplaying and the games are basicly just gear grinds with simplistic hack&slash gameplay. This means there is little replay value, since there is no point in replaying anything. Everyone does the exact same stuff and there are no choices to be made. You just choose a character with a gameplay style you like the most, then you grind the same foes for better gear and more levels until you get bored and quit. The attention to detail is extreme in the gameplay area and gear, but the system has always also been very simple, since the whole game is just a light hearted hack&slash game with gameplay polished to perfection. Again, very detailed and enjoyable games, but only on a so limited area, that it makes any comparisons against real RPGs just silly.
simplistic hack and slash gameplay? no replay value? Have you ever even played a diablo game???? Grinding even, good lord, you sound like a some 14 year old kid who never even played a diablo game, but rather just read a review on it and thought you understood it completely.
Diablo is an RPG in the sense that it has levels and different gear and such, but after that, the main selling point of Diablo is that it's almost a mix of RTS and RPG at the same time. You can't defeat Diablo in D2 with just hack and slash. If you try, you will be killed and frustrated quite quickly. In fact, you can hardly get through the first chapter or episode or whatever it was called in Diablo 2 with just hack and slash, unless you just sat there and grinded constantly to level up before you did anything. If you did it that way, then you're doin' it wrong....
What a **** poor description you gave of the Diablo series. Diablo and Diablo 2 are both wonderful classics that I would replay many times when they came out, and then pvp'd a bit also.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/11/2010 23:36:41
Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I'm inclined to agree. Top down dungeon crawlers are the fare of browser games now.
The fact you can compare the diablo series to browser trash means you either:
a) Never played the orignials when they were new. b) Have completely lost touch with the genre.
The fact you think any of this means you need to replay them now that it's 10 years later. I have memories about awesome C64 games which don't match up to the clips of them i can find on youtube. Memory is often very forgiving.
I played everything to death when it was all new. The expansions, everything. Loved them. However, browser games can now do what diablo did back then, and the bar for new games has been raised quite a bit since the good olde days. And they call it progress.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
The fact you think any of this means you need to replay them this decade. I have memories about C64 games which don't match up to the clips of them i can find on youtube. Memory is often very forgiving.
I played everything to death when it was all new. The expansions, everything. Loved them. However, browser games can now do what diablo did back then, and the bar for new games has been raised quite a bit since the good olde days. And they call it progress.
The fact that browser games can nowadays do what Diablo 1 and 2 did more then a decade ago, does not prove anything.
Regarding the release day it is still too early to tell, even for any kind of meaningful speculation. Some internal alpha builds will already exist, the Blizzcon build was likely created from one of them. But these builds will still undergo massive revisions when not yet completed features are put in.
Personally my estimate would be, that the internal Beta tests will begin somewhere mid 2011 and if everything goes well a release by the end of the next year might be possible.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/11/2010 23:44:18
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon fact that browser games can nowadays do what Diablo 1 and 2 did more then a decade ago, does not prove anything.
Would you pay 50 bucks for a side scrolling RPG in this day and age? After all, there were some good side scrolling ones in the past. I feel the same way about top down. Even though it has some nostalgia value, and a certain charm, expecting people to pay the full price of todays new releases is a bit unrealistic.
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:25:00 -
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As far as I know a lot of people who played D2 went to WoW because they wanted to move from third person fantasy to first person fantasy game. So the two games definitely share same market. D3 would definitely take money away from WoW. As long as WoW is profitable, there is no point releasing D3.
And D2 has free multilayer. If you ok with third person perspective, you can play D2 with other people.
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F0rum Tr0ll
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:11:00 -
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Hypothetical here.
Could you support D3 evolving from the drop down view to a 3rd person.
What if graphically, D3 came out as bling as Dragon Age. Speaking graphically and with a 3rd person view.
Or would it lose its charm ? Would it cease to be a diablo title if it changed from a drop down view?
I'd like to see D3 evolve with the times, I think it deserves the attention considering how important a game it has been.
If they bring out D3 and it looks like Torchlight, I think they are gimping the title. It deserves more I think. Relax! I'm here to save the forums!!! |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 14/11/2010 02:23:49
Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk The fact you can compare the diablo series to browser trash means you either: a) Never played the orignials when they were new. b) Have completely lost touch with the genre. Not saying D3 is going to take down any MMO titles with it's popularity, because that's a diffirent audience entirely, but it's no secret there are no other rpg titles with equal replay value and attention to detail.
I've played the first Diablo when it was brand spanking new, loved it. Wasted hours upon hours on it, played on LAN like crazy with other people, it was a blast.
Played Diablo 2 when it was brand new, still kind of liked it, but I wasn't impressed all that much anymore. We still gave it a bit of multiplayer LAN whirl, but it got boring fast, and other games were far more interesting. Diablo 2 expansion pack came out, and I could barely muster the attention to bother giving it a quick look, play a while on singleplayer only, then delete it.
I am NOT looking forward to Diablo 3... maybe just as being little more than a minor diversion with next to no replay value, to be discarded probably before even bothering to finish it.
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So, yeah, I suppose that for me it would qualify as "having lost touch with the genre". I fail to see it as a bad thing though.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: F0rum Tr0ll Hypothetical here.
Could you support D3 evolving from the drop down view to a 3rd person.
What if graphically, D3 came out as bling as Dragon Age. Speaking graphically and with a 3rd person view.
Or would it lose its charm ? Would it cease to be a diablo title if it changed from a drop down view?
I'd like to see D3 evolve with the times, I think it deserves the attention considering how important a game it has been.
If they bring out D3 and it looks like Torchlight, I think they are gimping the title. It deserves more I think.
D3 has evolved with the times. Honestly, it does have the same viewpoint, last I checked, but the gameplay is MUCH faster and much more involved. I'll reserve whether or not I think that's a good thing for when it comes out.
And no, browser games will not be able to do what D3 does, if the game play videos are to be considered (even though, no matter what anyone says, D1 and D2 will always be better than any of those browser games). Some folks should try watching the game play video on their website....
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F0rum Tr0ll
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:28:00 -
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I remember the music of diablo. The sound was and is awesome. I have the diablo soundtrack on my computer. I think the music stands on its own. The sound and music was top notch in those games. The atmosphere was perfect. Thats the trick diablo had was creating that atmosphere. Relax! I'm here to save the forums!!! |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.14 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Would you pay 50 bucks for a side scrolling RPG in this day and age? After all, there were some good side scrolling ones in the past. I feel the same way about top down. Even though it has some nostalgia value, and a certain charm, expecting people to pay the full price of todays new releases is a bit unrealistic.
Last year I bought Sacred 2 at a full price and later the expansion. I was quite happy with what I received for my money, even while I only played it on singleplayer.
So yes, I would pay for a side scrolling game RPG. Would Bioware decide to re-release Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 with up to date graphics while keeping the gameplay mechanics intact (no 3th or 4th edition, RTS style combat) then I would happily re-purchase the game.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2010.11.14 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cyprus Black Probably won't be either dates as the new WoW expansion is set for December 7th.
I wish WoW would die in a fire.
But no. Millions of gamers hooked to the drug of virtual identity.
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Shiro Kotaki
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.14 12:15:00 -
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I'll probably get Diablo 3 but only if there is a fun PvP included...
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