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Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:15:00 -
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Hello, I'm a new player to this game so forgive me for not knowing what certain windows are called but one thing I noticed right away is a very blatant grammatical error in the right hand Agents tab where you get a mission from. The text above the agent says "Available to you" it should read "Available for you" instead. An Agent is available for a person not to a person. You bring objects to people not other people (even if they are virtual people, like a game agent, lol) So it needs to be changed to the word For otherwise anyone with good grammar skills in English will catch this error every time.
Its just a typo, but pretty much on most beginners screens and in the center of the screen not hidden in some tertiary window pane so I am always facing this terrible error every time I play. I noticed in the upcoming Inferno patch dev blog that a screenshot has this error in it also as can be seen here (http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63099/1/06_start_conversation.png). So it appears the error is still in the new upgraded Tutorial as well. Oh well =/
Thanks for listening =) |
Zanzbar
Seraphim Initiative
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Posted - 2012.08.08 06:26:00 -
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A gramar ****, in my gaming community? Say it ain't so
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Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:52:00 -
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Since my first language is not english, I can't say much... But this mistake, if it is really a mistake, seems to be very common -
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=available+to+you+or+available+for+you&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Vbh&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=available+to+you&oq=available+to+you&gs_l=serp.3..0l4.11824.11824.0.12133.1.1.0.0.0.0.222.222.2-1.1.0...0.0...1c.VdcPVQr79tU&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c0ea06000d6a9d2f&biw=1920&bih=1050 So I'm pretty sure not many people notices this. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
821
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Posted - 2012.08.08 08:21:00 -
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My OCD meter is beeping. Their seems to be someone who take offense to are bad grammar and spellings! Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.08.08 09:18:00 -
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If you want this fixed, just make bug report at https://bugs.eveonline.com/ (also possible ingame in F12 window)
At the very least CCP will then be aware of this problem.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Tialano Utrigas
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:20:00 -
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I'm no expert in Grammar but Available to you as a statement is perfectly acceptable. For me, the use of the word "for" sounds better attached to a verb (if thats the word i'm looking for)., i.e "available for use".
It's one of those things where there isn't really a set answer and it the way it is at the moment sounds better to an English ear IMHO. |
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:48:00 -
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Bukka Bazooka wrote:So it needs to be changed to the word "for" otherwise anyone with good grammar skills in English will think poorly of Eve Online and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. I know I don't =).
Anyone with sufficient grammar skills knows that the form used in game is in fact the proper one.
Bukka Bazooka wrote: Its just a typo
It is not.
Bukka Bazooka wrote: Thanks for listening =)
You're welcome.
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Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:06:00 -
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Pod Pilots view non-capsuleers as mere objects to be used and disposed of anyways, so it seems fitting... |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:08:00 -
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I suspect a troll - an unusual one, perhaps, but still a troll.
"Available to" is a perfectly normal and acceptable use of English.
Still, an OP criticising EVE's grammar but itself containing at least three grammatical errors and lacking some punctuation has to be worth a laugh. |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
363
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:21:00 -
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Note to OP: Eve a game so anything you want is available to you.
If I want to judge / be judged about grammar there is college. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
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Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:46:00 -
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The agents can be objectified if that's how CCP intended them to be. On the other hand it could be assumed that the agent's services are what are available to you. The Drake is a Lie |
Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:30:00 -
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I'm not sure. "Available for you" sounds awkward. It sounds like an incomplete or abbreviated thought, as if it needs an infinitive to finish it. For example, "Available for you... to interact with." Anyway, welcome to the forums! You'll find many fellow grammarians here. A brotherhood of enraged, irate, or sometimes just peeved individuals. |
Zicon Shak'ra
Vacuo Anomalia
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:31:00 -
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Zanzbar wrote:A gramar ****, in my gaming community? Say it ain't so
Turn the lights off, carry me home. Wormholes are cool, m'kay? |
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
72
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:54:00 -
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I get the feeling you're just trolling. Granted, an intellectual and unusual way of trolling, but still trolling. I know my grammar pretty well, and nothing I know of says that CCP's way is wrong. Even if it is "for," so many people use "to" that it's like the ending a sentence with a preposition thing.
Get lost, troll. http://eve-sojourn.blogspot.com/
Sojourn, a newbie's EVE blog. |
SAVANT Mahr
Killing In The Nude Entropy Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:01:00 -
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Bukka Bazooka wrote:Hello, I'm a new player to this game so forgive me for not knowing what certain windows are called but one thing I noticed right away is a very blatant grammatical error in the right hand Agents tab where you get tutorial missions from. The text above the agent says "Available to you" it should read "Available for you" instead. An Agent is available for a person not to a person. You bring objects to people not other people (even if they are virtual people, like a game agent, lol) So it needs to be changed to the word "for" otherwise anyone with good grammar skills in English will think poorly of Eve Online and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. I know I don't =). Its just a typo, but pretty much on most beginners screens and in the center of the screen not hidden in some tertiary window pane so I am always facing this terrible error every time I play. I noticed in the upcoming Inferno patch dev blog that a screenshot has this error in it also as can be seen here ( http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63099/1/06_start_conversation.png). So it appears the error is still in the new upgraded Tutorial as well. Oh well =/ Thanks for listening =)
DUDE you need to GTFO RIGHT NOW!!!!! LOL if that kind of schite tweeks you now you just need to gtfo before you start running into some of the really fun CCP idosyncrasies.
trollfactor=6 pretty original |
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
76
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:06:00 -
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SAVANT Mahr wrote:Bukka Bazooka wrote:Hello, I'm a new player to this game so forgive me for not knowing what certain windows are called but one thing I noticed right away is a very blatant grammatical error in the right hand Agents tab where you get tutorial missions from. The text above the agent says "Available to you" it should read "Available for you" instead. An Agent is available for a person not to a person. You bring objects to people not other people (even if they are virtual people, like a game agent, lol) So it needs to be changed to the word "for" otherwise anyone with good grammar skills in English will think poorly of Eve Online and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. I know I don't =). Its just a typo, but pretty much on most beginners screens and in the center of the screen not hidden in some tertiary window pane so I am always facing this terrible error every time I play. I noticed in the upcoming Inferno patch dev blog that a screenshot has this error in it also as can be seen here ( http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63099/1/06_start_conversation.png). So it appears the error is still in the new upgraded Tutorial as well. Oh well =/ Thanks for listening =) DUDE you need to GTFO RIGHT NOW!!!!! LOL if that kind of schite tweeks you now you just need to gtfo before you start running into some of the really fun CCP idosyncrasies. trollfactor=6 pretty original
Trollfactor=1, trolling a troll. http://eve-sojourn.blogspot.com/
Sojourn, a newbie's EVE blog. |
Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.11 15:59:00 -
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Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:Bukka Bazooka wrote:So it needs to be changed to the word "for" otherwise anyone with good grammar skills in English will think poorly of Eve Online and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. I know I don't =).
Anyone with sufficient grammar skills knows that the form used in game is in fact the proper one. Bukka Bazooka wrote: Its just a typo
It is not. Bukka Bazooka wrote: Thanks for listening =)
You're welcome.
Your not contributing but trolling in this thread. Please stop |
Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:05:00 -
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SAVANT Mahr wrote:Bukka Bazooka wrote:Hello, I'm a new player to this game so forgive me for not knowing what certain windows are called but one thing I noticed right away is a very blatant grammatical error in the right hand Agents tab where you get tutorial missions from. The text above the agent says "Available to you" it should read "Available for you" instead. An Agent is available for a person not to a person. You bring objects to people not other people (even if they are virtual people, like a game agent, lol) So it needs to be changed to the word "for" otherwise anyone with good grammar skills in English will think poorly of Eve Online and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. I know I don't =). Its just a typo, but pretty much on most beginners screens and in the center of the screen not hidden in some tertiary window pane so I am always facing this terrible error every time I play. I noticed in the upcoming Inferno patch dev blog that a screenshot has this error in it also as can be seen here ( http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63099/1/06_start_conversation.png). So it appears the error is still in the new upgraded Tutorial as well. Oh well =/ Thanks for listening =) DUDE you need to GTFO RIGHT NOW!!!!! LOL if that kind of schite tweeks you now you just need to gtfo before you start running into some of the really fun CCP idosyncrasies. trollfactor=6 pretty original
actually I would like to call you a hypocritical jerk as you are the troll in that above post. You are in no way contributing to this discussion but taking away from it by 1) insulting the OP 2) more insults of the OP 3) not adding any direct counter (of which it is impossible because an error is an error is an error 4) telling someone what to do when the point of this forum is discussion not BELITTLING or deny others the right to state their true facts and/or opinions (in this case, this error is a fact not an opinion). What level of insecurity on your part deems you the ability to come into this thread and demean and humiliate someone to this level? I will be reporting your post as a flagrant trolling and your forum posts will hopefully be taken away for a period of time due the violation of the forum guidelines you have accepted by registering for these forums. Thank you and have a nice day and PLEASE grow up already =/ |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:06:00 -
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Bukka Bazooka wrote:Your not contributing but trolling in this thread. Please stop
You're* Amat victoria curam. |
Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:23:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:Bukka Bazooka wrote:Your not contributing but trolling in this thread. Please stop You're*
I stand corrected, thank you. "You're" lol |
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Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:32:00 -
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Google search: "available to you" Result: About 4,100,000,000 results (0.36 seconds)
Google search: "available for you" Result: About 4,620,000,000 results (0.26 seconds)
Even Google agrees with me based on your inference. If you notice it took longer to get less. But that's a minor point =P
Let me leave you with a quote from Ghandi, "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth." Google can't touch logic like that. |
Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
0
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:43:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:I'm not sure. "Available for you" sounds awkward. It sounds like an incomplete or abbreviated thought, as if it needs an infinitive to finish it. For example, "Available for you... to interact with." Anyway, welcome to the forums! You'll find many fellow grammarians here. A brotherhood of enraged, irate, or sometimes just peeved individuals.
LOL,Well I am none of any of those just wanted to point out a fragment that was akin to nails on chalkboard to me when seeing it everyday. =) |
Bukka Bazooka
IG Holdings
0
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:46:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:My OCD meter is beeping. Their seems to be someone who take offense to are bad grammar and spellings!
The following troll remarks of the OP are more offensive then the in-game error, tbh. But what's wrong with pointing out errors? Everyone's goal is to make the game better not worse, right? Otherwise that would be just insanity! lol |
Horatius Caul
Kitzless
85
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Posted - 2012.08.11 18:13:00 -
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It makes no difference what it's referring to, the preposition is determined by what follows the adjective.
Something is available to a person, or available for a purpose.
So: The customer service representatives available to service me. vs The customer service representatives available for serving me.
The mechanics available to fix my car. vs The mechanics available for fixing my car.
So, which is it? The agents available to you, or the agents available for you?
Let's look at what they actually need to be complete sentences: The agents available to offer missions to you. vs The agents available for offering missions to you.
These two sentences can be constructed to mean different things. You can either mean 'there are many agents that have missions, and these are the ones that have missions that you can take' or 'you have access to several agents, but only some of them have missions to offer'. The game means the former, and the sentence relying on making you the focus is better at conveying this without loss of clarity.
Also, both of the sentences end in 'to you'. Thus, the first sentence is both less ambiguous and will maintain both the integral proposition of the sentence and maintain the ending of the sentence when it is shortened.
Ergo: "Agents available to you" is grammatically correct. Amarrad - Amarr language project |
Hiro Ceffoe
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.11 18:58:00 -
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Also
"And they are no less driven to succeed or to rule... as you"
Should this be:
... as you are or ... than you are ... than you maybe? |
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ISD Etetia
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2012.08.11 21:21:00 -
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Hello Bukka Bazooka
If you believe you've found a bug in the game, be that grammatical errors or gameplay issues, the correct way to report it, is to file a Bug Report.
Discussing grammar dosen't really belong in this forum section
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