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Eska Royson
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.11.16 23:57:00 -
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Basically, im in gallente FW and im flying around Caldari highsec in an ishtar... Caldari navy jam right? Thats far enough I can deal with that. But sinse when have they Neuted? And I dont mean alittle bit, I mean a full rack..... Ishtar is duel repped... I engage an enemy badger mark II I found at a gate. I get 2 volley off on him with my drones then, cap empty and one volly im dead..... Utter ****ing joke to be honest.
THEN
I go to jita and fit a dramiel just cos im bored... I'm warping around their highsec again and then I find a hulk, im thinking im a frigate, it will take ages for the navy battleships to lock me and then they will probs just miss me anything... I engage, after about 10 seconds im locked, neuted and they 2 volley me.
[ 2010.11.16 23:44:27 ] (combat) Caldari Navy Captain 3rd Rank misses you completely. This is a ****ing frigate and it misses almost everytime.
[ 2010.11.16 23:44:49 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Navy Fleet Admiral places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 1055.7 damage. This is a battleship.
Are you ****ing serious? I was orbiting with ab on.... WTF is wrong with CCP's navy? Why isnt the amarr navy that ****ing neut and the caldari who jam, the gallente or sensor dampen and the minnie who 90% web or something?
Why the **** do caldari neut? They dont have one sodding neut post im so ****ed, not just cos I lost those ships but the reason behind it.. Neuted and 1 volleyed by a battleship onto a frig with a signature radius so small that a navy frigs can just about him me? Ill be petitioning this utter bull****.
Flame me, laugh whatever, you all know you have had moments in eve that are just utter *******s, this is one of them
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Havegooda
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.17 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:21:17 Basically, im in gallente FW and im flying around Caldari highsec in an ishtar
There's your problem.
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Eska Royson
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.11.17 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:32:35 Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:32:20 Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066641
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066175
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066231
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8063612
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8063230
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8062216
Why no perm neut for these ****ers? The sac is most likely duel repped to.... Such ****ing bull****, caldari are so weak in pvp but their navy has arty sytle damage and federation navy distant webs? Sort it out ffs
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Zach Donnell
Ghost-Busters
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Posted - 2010.11.17 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:21:17 Flame me, laugh whatever, you all know you have had moments in eve that are just utter *******s, this is one of them
We also don't all run to the forums to ragepost.
I think maybe a little prior research on faction navy's capabilities would have helped you :) |
Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.17 02:20:00 -
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Your thread title is quite the oxymoron.
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Jones Bones
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2010.11.17 02:30:00 -
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lolumadbrah?
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.11.17 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
It really is your problem that you are too dim to understand.
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Lord Zekk
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2010.11.17 03:20:00 -
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You decided to engage in PVP and you lost a ship. You didn't do your research on your enemy so now it's CCP's fault?
CCP makes it's fair share of mistakes but this one is all yours. How about finding out what the navy is capable of before trying to engage them?
Most FW corps and players test this sort of thing out on sisi before trying it out on TQ.
I understand you're upset, but honestly bringing the rage and tears to the forum really isn't a good idea.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.11.17 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Ill be petitioning this utter bull****.
Thanks for being an incompetent jerkoff who wastes CCP's time when its entirely your own fault for being useless.
The sooner CCP stops letting you 12 year olds loose on the forums the better.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.17 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:32:35 Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:32:20 Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066641
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066175
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066231
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8063612
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8063230
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8062216
Why no perm neut for these ****ers? The sac is most likely duel repped to.... Such ****ing bull****, caldari are so weak in pvp but their navy has arty sytle damage and federation navy distant webs? Sort it out ffs
There were only 2 decently fit ships there, the rest I am glad got popped. Jesus. I'd have popped them myself if I knew how they were fit Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.11.17 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 17/11/2010 04:53:59
Originally by: Eska Royson Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
We accidentally whole Orca. And here as well.
Also, it clearly appears you have not done the days and weeks of testing in SiSi like we have and what people here suggest you do, if you want to go around high-sec and hit your enemies.
Oh right, you are Gallente. You want CCP to nerf stuff for you because you cannot be asked to sort it out yourself and as "uber pvp god" you deserve it. Nevermind.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Duke o'DeliMeats
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Posted - 2010.11.17 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
l o l
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Axemaster
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Posted - 2010.11.17 08:50:00 -
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I entered this thread expecting the OP to be dumb.
I wasn't disappointed.
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Intigo
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.11.17 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Axemaster I entered this thread expecting the OP to be dumb.
I wasn't disappointed.
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Darth Kasbian
Random Pirate's
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Posted - 2010.11.17 09:50:00 -
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Entered post optimistic left disappointed
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Lexx Jonlan
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.17 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Oh right, you are Gallente. You want CCP to nerf stuff for you because you cannot be asked to sort it out yourself and as "uber pvp god" you deserve it. Nevermind. ]
Oh FFS Damar, give it a rest just for once will you? Take that broomstick out of your ar5e & just take the pi55 out of this whining idiot like the rest of us.
Jeees...
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.17 10:39:00 -
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I'm feeling charitable today, so instead of hopping onto the "you're a fool bandwagon" (which you are, and if you had asked more politely I'm sure you would have had a useful response by now) I'll do some explaining.
Most of those kills are in a 0.5 system. To the best of my knowledge, 0.5 systems don't neut and do very little in the way of dps. The higher the system security level, the more damage/neuting the navy does. Also, an ishtar is a terrible ship to attack in high sec with - generally you need to shoot as fast as you can before the navy spawns, and you waste precious seconds launching drones, having those drones get to the target let alone I have no idea if they navy shoots drones.
Tar - that system is concord high sec, no navy of either side goes there. The kill you linked in Ichoriya was caldari militia fighting caldari militia via internal wardecs. Tintoh - that is a caldari militia guy in caldari highsec shooting someone.
Finally - if you get 10 friends/alts with navy aggro warping around system, I believe no more spawn. But I spend most of my time in lowsec, not highsec so I'm not the authority on the subject.
But basically, from the kills you posted you don't even understand that caldari can roam caldari high sec without the navy interfering. Why you're using expensive ships to roam around with a mechanic you don't understand in the slightest is beyond me.
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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2010.11.17 10:45:00 -
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Thread cleared of flaming, please keep comments constructive.
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Unfamed II
NPC Corporation
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Posted - 2010.11.17 11:16:00 -
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Chatcatpig is right. -b |
Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.11.17 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 17/11/2010 11:32:44 Don't do faction warfare but have to agree. Faction NPC's should be imitating the capabilities of their faction ships as they're used in game by players.
Also agree ship types should be imitating the limitations of ship types in EVE. If you have frigs missing and battleships hitting for 1k damage on player frigs somethings a bit amiss.
The idea of spending 'weeks and weeks on sisi testing' to figure out how things work without risking anything is a bit much for anyone but a complete eve fanatic. Hell I'm a EvE fanatic but I don't spend weeks and weeks testing out things on Sisi, I test them out in game.
My last loss was a blaster arazu against a hurricane. I didn't complain because it went as expected, I got owned, but had I been in a frigate and got owned by a battleship with large guns or missiles I would have been ****ed off. The OP has a right to be ****ed. Sig ---
Quote: Originally by Oveur: High security empire space is supposed to be quite safe. ... That's the whole point of high security.
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Target Painter
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Posted - 2010.11.17 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066641
I can't believe you posted a kill made with 2 Canes and a ****ing ROOK on a T1 cruiser as proof of your PvP prowess.
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Ti'jitsu
Gallente Spais Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.17 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:32:35 Edited by: Eska Royson on 17/11/2010 00:32:20 Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066641
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066175
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066231
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8063612
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8063230
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8062216
Why no perm neut for these ****ers? The sac is most likely duel repped to.... Such ****ing bull****, caldari are so weak in pvp but their navy has arty sytle damage and federation navy distant webs? Sort it out ffs
Most of those are draketrain kills in Gallente High sec. Draketrain has is methods of how should we say it.. "bypassing" factional NPCs. Props to them for finding ways around the rules.
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Lexx Jonlan
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.17 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
The idea of spending 'weeks and weeks on sisi testing' to figure out how things work without risking anything is a bit much for anyone but a complete eve fanatic.
You don't need to do that AT ALL. Just 5 minutes on Sisi would have told him exactly what he needed to know.
When you're in Faction Warfare you should know there are consequences for going into enemy high-sec, and if you don't know what those consequences are, you should find out before taking a HAC in there. If you don't/can't 'do Sisi' it takes 5 minutes with google to find out what the enemy navies do, and if you're too lazy/dumb to even do that, then try it first with something cheap & insurable.
Quote: The OP has a right to be ****ed.
No, he has only himself to blame in this case.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes |
Eska Royson
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.11.17 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Target Painter
Originally by: Eska Royson Oh really? thats my problem is it? So explain this then...
http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8066641
I can't believe you posted a kill made with 2 Canes and a ****ing ROOK on a T1 cruiser as proof of your PvP prowess.
If you read my post moron they are not my kills..... im posting them killmails because it seems that in those cases, there way no navy interferance, ie neuting and 1 volling... The damage was just shy of what concord does........ And thanks to one person in this thread for explaining the ins and outs about the navy, I know caldari navy jam and shoot you, thats common sense, but I didnt expect to be insta-neuted..... ill go on sisi for afew "weeks" then and test out everything to do with the navy. Seems kinda ******ed too that I can jump in a frig, get aggro from the navy then just warp around for 5 hours and no more navy spawn... Fic the mechanics to be honest.
If caldari navy have 20km+ webs, then why is the caldari web only 12km? Things dont make sense, that would be like killing a raven NPC and getting a bhaalgorn bpc drop..... ******s working at CCP it seems.
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Rhak Amharr
Minmatar Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.11.17 15:05:00 -
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He is very mad
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.17 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Eska Royson I know caldari navy jam and shoot you, thats common sense, but I didnt expect to be insta-neuted.....
You are confusing NPC rats in factional warfare plexes (in lowsec) with the navy that spawns in high sec. Two entirely different beasts.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.11.17 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ti'jitsu Draketrain has is methods of how should we say it.. "bypassing" factional NPCs. Props to them for finding ways around the rules.
We'll keep doing it. Nice fight what we get in the end, weird that rook bailed at first opportunity though.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Kimo Alslarian
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Posted - 2010.11.18 03:31:00 -
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Yes..there are in's an out's to fighting in a .5 system, some of which I just learned as well as I left the system to chase some WT's. Here's that killmail and the results...just as long as you learn eh.. :-) Good hunt'n all.. http://draketrain.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8065062
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Hurlum
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Posted - 2010.11.18 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Hurlum on 18/11/2010 08:11:17 Edited by: Hurlum on 18/11/2010 08:10:41 ontopic: faction ships have a better chance at surviving in enemy hisec as the hostile npcs dont neut or do **** to them
e i accidentally clicked post ee i was going to add more stuff but i accidentally clicked the post button
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.11.19 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zekk
You decided to engage in PVP and you lost a ship. You didn't do your research on your enemy so now it's CCP's fault?
CCP makes it's fair share of mistakes but this one is all yours. How about finding out what the navy is capable of before trying to engage them?
Most FW corps and players test this sort of thing out on sisi before trying it out on TQ.
I understand you're upset, but honestly bringing the rage and tears to the forum really isn't a good idea.
Ahmen.
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