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Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:20:00 -
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Was gonna unsub because I just felt EVE was stale and I could use the cash elsewhere...then I saw the PVP'er tears/rage from the newest updates. That alone, is worth my money :3 Thank you CCP. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:28:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Anslo wrote:Was gonna unsub because I just felt EVE was stale and I could use the cash elsewhere...then I saw the PVP'er tears/rage from the newest updates. That alone, is worth my money :3 Thank you CCP. EVE is a PvP game and PvP is what generates new and exciting content every day. But since you hate PvP so much I predict you will get bored soon and quit anyway since not much will happen PVE wise.
I've been here since 2007 and I'm still here so...nope. Also, PvP in EVE is just a reflection of the real world, little people with big toys trying to kill each other for either fun or resources. I don't play a game to experience reality, even if it is in SPAAAAAAaaaaacceeee..... |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:10:00 -
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MIrple wrote:PVP is not just ships exploding when your out mining your pvping against other miners to get the mins. I guess that is over your head still. Everything that is not seeded by CCP in eve is PVP.
That's just a PvP-tards way of twisting words and meanings to lend some form of credibility to their argument. Selling is not PvP. Manufacturing is not PvP. It's more PvE than anything. The player pitting their skills and resources and ability to create or mine against the environment of the market. PvP is PvP, Manufacturing and mining is NOT PvP. Get over it. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:24:00 -
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MIrple wrote:Anslo wrote:MIrple wrote:PVP is not just ships exploding when your out mining your pvping against other miners to get the mins. I guess that is over your head still. Everything that is not seeded by CCP in eve is PVP. That's just a PvP-tards way of twisting words and meanings to lend some form of credibility to their argument. Selling is not PvP. Manufacturing is not PvP. It's more PvE than anything. The player pitting their skills and resources and ability to create or mine against the environment of the market. PvP is PvP, Manufacturing and mining is NOT PvP. Get over it. Confirming that when I put orders up on the market they are being bought by CCP and not competing with any other players to sell my items. Glad that is settled
In the traditionalist sense no, it's not. If you want to stretch the terms meaning then sure you could say it's "pvp," but the people who engage in it do not see it that way as, to them it is not and it is only thus when stretched by PvP-tards, such as yourself. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:33:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Anslo wrote:MIrple wrote:Anslo wrote:MIrple wrote:PVP is not just ships exploding when your out mining your pvping against other miners to get the mins. I guess that is over your head still. Everything that is not seeded by CCP in eve is PVP. That's just a PvP-tards way of twisting words and meanings to lend some form of credibility to their argument. Selling is not PvP. Manufacturing is not PvP. It's more PvE than anything. The player pitting their skills and resources and ability to create or mine against the environment of the market. PvP is PvP, Manufacturing and mining is NOT PvP. Get over it. Confirming that when I put orders up on the market they are being bought by CCP and not competing with any other players to sell my items. Glad that is settled In the traditionalist sense no, it's not. If you want to stretch the terms meaning then sure you could say it's "pvp," but the people who engage in it do not see it that way as, to them it is not and it is only thus when stretched by PvP-tards, such as yourself. Market is PVP - player vs player - its in the name buddy.
Except it's not to those in the market. They don't see it as pvp. They see it as playing in the market. When people use PvP on here, when they say they don't like it, they mean you and your over engineered flying gun bashing against my nice shiny mission ship that didn't even so much as point in your direction. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:49:00 -
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MIrple wrote:Sense your stretching the idea ganking ships is just another from or playing on the market then as I would be limiting your available isk and resources from making it on to the market. Carebears keep telling themselves that is is not a pure pvp game by quantifying what is and isn't pvp by there own conditions. I dont gank indy people but I also dont try to say that EVE isnt a pure PVP game.
Now you just sound stupid.
Mlrple wrote: I also dont try to say that EVE isnt a pure PVP game. It isn't pure PvP. Missioning =/= pvp at ALL. Even by a stretch. There is no limit to missions, it is an abundant and endless resource. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:07:00 -
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MIrple wrote:Anslo wrote:MIrple wrote:Sense your stretching the idea ganking ships is just another from or playing on the market then as I would be limiting your available isk and resources from making it on to the market. Carebears keep telling themselves that is is not a pure pvp game by quantifying what is and isn't pvp by there own conditions. I dont gank indy people but I also dont try to say that EVE isnt a pure PVP game. Now you just sound stupid. Mlrple wrote: I also dont try to say that EVE isnt a pure PVP game. It isn't pure PvP. Missioning =/= pvp at ALL. Even by a stretch. There is no limit to missions, it is an abundant and endless resource. Missioning can be PVP if you have a ninja salvager or a ganker come into your gate.
Then it's not missioning anymore, it becomes ganking or camping or piracy. Pick your adjective. Either way, it doesn't stand. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:26:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Anslo wrote:MIrple wrote:PVP is not just ships exploding when your out mining your pvping against other miners to get the mins. I guess that is over your head still. Everything that is not seeded by CCP in eve is PVP. That's just a PvP-tards way of twisting words and meanings to lend some form of credibility to their argument. Selling is not PvP. Manufacturing is not PvP. It's more PvE than anything. The player pitting their skills and resources and ability to create or mine against the environment of the market. PvP is PvP, Manufacturing and mining is NOT PvP. Get over it. 100% incorrect. If the market was npc based you would have a point, but the market is player based. You cannot sell the majority of items to anyone but players. The only activity in EVE that could be claimed to be PvE is shooting rats. And even that has a PvP element (getting your ship/mods). The market "environment" is players. In EVE, manu and mining are PvP. Get over it.
In the spirit of avoiding another conflict, I'll say this; this entire debate revolves around the difference in definition of what PvP is to some. Some see it is ship on ship directly harming others, while some see anything pitting x and y against each other in even the most MINUSCULE WAY as PvP. |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:43:00 -
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MIrple wrote:Thanks Corina Jarr. I am really not trying to attack anyone on the forums. I am just trying to help people understand that EVE is PVP based once people come to this mind set there will be less err different complaints on the forums. There has been far to much out cry for CCP to hold the players hand in this game. EVE is hard find a way to make some isk from that fact. If ever this is no longer any risk involved in this game I would be sad to say but that is the only thing that keeps me playing this game.
Ok I also want to say thank you to CCP for putting out a great patch and in my opinion a great balance and verity to the mining barges if this is a sneak peek at the future of ship rebalanced I cant wait to applaud or cry neh at the next set of roll outs.
Sorry to have been a bit aggressive. Differences of opinion bring out the rage upon escalation. I.e. EVE brings out the worst in me.
Jimmy status=unrustled |
Anslo
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:48:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Thats fair. I am glad that we came to this realization much faster in this thread than in another one I was party to... The downside of the internet seems to be that so many new terms have various commonly used definitions. Also, on track with OP, I would like to say nice job CCP on the miners. Please don't forget about them when we notice things that don't work as intended.
Same.
Also, needs moar Homeworld 2 ship look alikes. I can't be the only one who noticed the new mining ship looks a little like homeworld's little industrials. |
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