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Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:35:00 -
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so as part of the T1 frig overhaul and 'rebalancing' initiative, the plan was to replace the T1 mining frigates with combat roles in favour of a single new ORE mining frigate for the new industrial players. however, this new frig has turned out to be for the winter release and not Inferno 1.2. am i the only one that sees a problem with this? if T1 frigs are going to be re-jigged again in the winter due to the addition of the new ORE frig, then the T1 frig overhaul is not complete! (we have a redundant mining frig for each race where a combat ship will soon be).
it appears only the rookie ships have been altered - primarily to support EWAR - and now each race has two dedicated EWAR ships and nothing else has changed. am i the only one who feels that t1 frigs are a mess now?
it seems that instead of valid content some shiney new T3 skins have been the only refined addition to the game...again... |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
461
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:36:00 -
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classified data wrote:so as part of the T1 frig overhaul and 'rebalancing' initiative, the plan was to replace the T1 mining frigates with combat roles in favour of a single new ORE mining frigate for the new industrial players. however, this new frig has turned out to be for the winter release and not Inferno 1.2. am i the only one that sees a problem with this? if T1 frigs are going to be re-jigged again in the winter due to the addition of the new ORE frig then, then the T1 frig overhaul is not complete!
it appears only the rookie ships have been altered - primarily to support EWAR - and now each race has two dedicated EWAR ships and nothing else has changed. am i the only one who feels that t1 frigs are a mess now?
it seems that instead of valid content some shiney new T3 skins have been the only refined addition to the game...again... The ORE frigate is due out in the winter expansion and the other frigates roles are due for altering at the same time. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
94
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:58:00 -
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Well it is a bit lame doing half the frigs and delayingt the other half, but is it really worth a thread? |

Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:00:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Well it is a bit lame doing half the frigs and delayingt the other half, but is it really worth a thread?
Based on the average quality of threads in General Discussion? Yes. |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:00:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Well it is a bit lame doing half the frigs and delayingt the other half, but is it really worth a thread? no. stop whining and be patient. the changes you're wishing for WILL come. |

Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
421
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:03:00 -
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keep your panties on. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
355
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:04:00 -
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They're doing one frig at a time, the mining frigs will be last due to the ORE frig coming out in the winter expansion...
This is the 2nd frig they balanced, next month will be another, until they're all done and then they move onto cruisers... Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |

Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:06:00 -
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don't get you're knickers in a not. |

Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
256
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:06:00 -
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They adjusted the T1 inties too. Does that help? |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
94
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:11:00 -
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Some of the delays are for good reason. There is no point rebalancing the ewar frigs when they are going to be re-assessing ewar for example. The mining frigs shouldn't really be done till their replacement (ORE frig) is ready. Scanning frigs already do their role quite well and are a low piority.
So yeah they are balancing them as its sensible to do so. |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
94
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:11:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:They adjusted the T1 inties too. Does that help?
Not to mention the t1 dps frigs.
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Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:15:00 -
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im mad as hell
ive had it and im selling all my stuff for 1 trit... |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:16:00 -
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make sure to contract it all to me before biomassing GÖÑ |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:36:00 -
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The only real wrong move in this process is that they jumped the gun with the Tormentor, so Amarr have lost their mining/cargo-bonused frigate but the other races still have theirs. |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:44:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:The only real wrong move in this process is that they jumped the gun with the Tormentor, so Amarr have lost their mining/cargo-bonused frigate but the other races still have theirs. Amarr are miners anyway. it's a known fact that if you want to do mining, you go Amarr. |

Taranius De Consolville
Lost Dawn Chaos Corrosive.
190
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:47:00 -
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classified data wrote:so as part of the T1 frig overhaul and 'rebalancing' initiative, the plan was to replace the T1 mining frigates with combat roles in favour of a single new ORE mining frigate for the new industrial players. however, this new frig has turned out to be for the winter release and not Inferno 1.2. am i the only one that sees a problem with this? if T1 frigs are going to be re-jigged again in the winter due to the addition of the new ORE frig, then the T1 frig overhaul is not complete! (we have a redundant mining frig for each race where a combat ship will soon be).
it appears only the rookie ships have been altered - primarily to support EWAR - and now each race has two dedicated EWAR ships and nothing else has changed. am i the only one who feels that t1 frigs are a mess now?
it seems that instead of valid content some shiney new T3 skins have been the only refined addition to the game...again...
RAGE MORE
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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden
64
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:48:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:classified data wrote:so as part of the T1 frig overhaul and 'rebalancing' initiative, the plan was to replace the T1 mining frigates with combat roles in favour of a single new ORE mining frigate for the new industrial players. however, this new frig has turned out to be for the winter release and not Inferno 1.2. am i the only one that sees a problem with this? if T1 frigs are going to be re-jigged again in the winter due to the addition of the new ORE frig, then the T1 frig overhaul is not complete! (we have a redundant mining frig for each race where a combat ship will soon be).
it appears only the rookie ships have been altered - primarily to support EWAR - and now each race has two dedicated EWAR ships and nothing else has changed. am i the only one who feels that t1 frigs are a mess now?
it seems that instead of valid content some shiney new T3 skins have been the only refined addition to the game...again... RAGE MORE Trolling is best done subtly, not in the manner of clubbing someone over the head. |

MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
75
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:43:00 -
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These days it's getting harder and harder to separate the whingers from the trolls. It'd be easy if so many people didn't actually whine over every little thing that happens 
For the record my vote is troll on this one "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom." |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1249
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:45:00 -
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Denidil wrote:keep your panties on. But life can be so much more interesting when you take them off My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
804
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:08:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Well it is a bit lame doing half the frigs and delayingt the other half, but is it really worth a thread?
Would you rather see them done class by class in every patch, or be held back until they're all done in two years? |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
973
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:13:00 -
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Dear OP,
I believe you are missing the concept of incremental in incremental changes.
Also, your "up" seems to have been left open. Please shut it. Here's your sign... |

XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
3
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:14:00 -
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I guess most people don't read patch notes. When did they say that the mining frig and all tech 1 frigs would be completed and released in this 1.2 patch? The patch notes came out a couple weeks ago and said only barges rookie ships and four frigs would be addressed in this patch. |

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Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:13:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Dear OP,
I believe you are missing the concept of incremental in incremental changes.
Also, your "up" seems to have been left open. Please shut it. oh no my internet feelings have been hurt  |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:48:00 -
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MisterNick wrote:These days it's getting harder and harder to separate the whingers from the trolls. It'd be easy if so many people didn't actually whine over every little thing that happens 
This. The amount of whining in the last 12 hours has been pathetic. I really think people need to either STFU and play the game or quit (REALLY quit, not this limp-d!ck failquitting). Some of us are getting sick and tired of the petulant whining. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2331
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:51:00 -
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Sarik Olecar wrote:don't get you're knickers in a not.
I've run into a lot more knickers in a NOT, than I have run into in a KNOT. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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