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Gallians
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Posted - 2010.11.22 22:24:00 -
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What a bargain! sell two and get a PLEX!. Forge, of course Jita, and a couple hubs and n00b mission systems like Isikemi are enyojing this new appreciation for the wonder that is Rifter.
Get in before they are all gone, or see your old clunky ones for a hefty profit!
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.22 22:54:00 -
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Are you Cube's alt?
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oiyun
Tleilex Research
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Posted - 2010.11.22 23:09:00 -
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You claim the price is great profit for sellers, yet you use the phrase "only 200M", indicating it is a good deal for the buyers..
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.22 23:09:00 -
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Its not the first time. Last week it was Tormentors, this week its Cyclons and Feroxes. I always wonder why would anyone buy out crap like Tormentors or Imicuses?
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Gallians
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Posted - 2010.11.22 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: oiyun You claim the price is great profit for sellers, yet you use the phrase "only 200M", indicating it is a good deal for the buyers..
It's a great deal for everyone!
Buy buy buy, sell sell sell. Market equilibrium at its finest
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.11.23 04:27:00 -
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Before I start questioning the OP, I suppose I should ask...how many Rifters have actually moved at that price?
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.11.23 04:48:00 -
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Enough so that it doesn't show as a blip, otherwise why would someone put such effort into this scam legit way of selling? |
Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.11.23 04:52:00 -
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Paging MD's favorite troller
Originally by: Brock Nelson OP's question is translated as: Help, I'm a female stuck in a man's body, can Incarna help?
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Gallians
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Posted - 2010.11.23 05:20:00 -
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I really think you fine gentlemen are confusing me with someone else
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.11.23 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sturmwolke Enough so that it doesn't show as a blip, otherwise why would someone put such effort into this scam legit way of selling?
According to market history, there has been a grand total of...1 that sold at that price.
Eh, looks legit.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.11.23 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Jameson According to market history, there has been a grand total of...1 that sold at that price.
The Eve market graph uses a particular default filter to clamp down on possible erroneous data sets. Knowing how this filter works, you can hide certain transactions. Whether that's changed now, I don't know.
For more information, you should ask the man himself (see post #2) |
Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:06:00 -
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Confirming said manipulation works with all popular ships
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:17:00 -
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I always thought people who did this kind of thing were jerks. Then I found myself with a few shuttles in an out-of-the-way system and put them up for 20 million each, just to see what might happen. I sold two within a week.
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Herman Klaus on 23/11/2010 22:29:33
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker I always thought people who did this kind of thing were jerks. Then I found myself with a few shuttles in an out-of-the-way system and put them up for 20 million each, just to see what might happen. I sold two within a week.
It's not jerky at all. It's a massive risk taken by the seller. You have to buy all the ships up to the price you want to relist. All it takes is someone to come along and drop a load of cheaply made ships on the market for a normal price and you're screwed!
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus Edited by: Herman Klaus on 23/11/2010 22:29:33
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker I always thought people who did this kind of thing were jerks. Then I found myself with a few shuttles in an out-of-the-way system and put them up for 20 million each, just to see what might happen. I sold two within a week.
It's not jerky at all. It's a massive risk taken by the seller. You have to buy all the ships up to the price you want to relist. All it takes is someone to come along and drop a load of cheaply made ships on the market for a normal price and you're screwed!
Not exactly a huge risk when we're talking about a couple of shuttles or a single Rifter...
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.23 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus
It's not jerky at all. It's a massive risk taken by the seller. You have to buy all the ships up to the price you want to relist.
No you don't. You just have to find someone stupid enough not to know how the market mechanics work and make sure you have the lowest sell order
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.24 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Herman Klaus
It's not jerky at all. It's a massive risk taken by the seller. You have to buy all the ships up to the price you want to relist.
No you don't. You just have to find someone stupid enough not to know how the market mechanics work and make sure you have the lowest sell order
EXACTLY! That means making the 120m ISK worth of lower priced ships go away.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.24 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Herman Klaus
It's not jerky at all. It's a massive risk taken by the seller. You have to buy all the ships up to the price you want to relist.
No you don't. You just have to find someone stupid enough not to know how the market mechanics work and make sure you have the lowest sell order
EXACTLY! That means making the 120m ISK worth of lower priced ships go away.
No. You have the lowest sell order, someone clicks buy from a 200 million ISK ship. You get all 200 mil because the game automatically takes the item from the lowest sell order and the buyer pays whatever price he selected.
example: You have 5 rifters at 999,999 ISK each There are 5,000 rifters at 1 mil each Someone (doesn't matter who) has 1 rifter at 999,999,999 ISK Buyer clicks on 999 mil rifter Buyer receives rifter The 999 mil rifter order is still there You receive 999 mil and now have 4 rifters plus probably some hatemail.
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.24 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 text
My apologies. I understand that mechanic. But why would some clown click the higher priced ones if you just sort by price?
Not sorting by price is daft.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.24 01:45:00 -
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New player, doesn't use the market much, didn't sort by price, misclicked, typed wrong price on a buy order, lazy, just plain stupid...
Take your pick. There are lots of reasons it happens. Especially if the price is like a factor of 10.
I still remember selling 5 Hammerhead II's for 5.9 mil each a while ago because of this.
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.24 02:01:00 -
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i suppose you'd need to flood the market with the silly priced ones then for it to be more likely to work. |
Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 02:57:00 -
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Just FYI, I'm not talking about the same scam Breaker77 is. I'm talking about when you find an item for which there are none available, or only one available, and you put yours on the market. Shuttles at out-of-the-way stations are the obvious one. The OP's example of putting a Rifter for sale when the market was completely out of stock is another textbook case. This doesn't rely on any major mistake by the user except moving too quickly to count the zeroes.
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Herman Klaus
Caldari Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.24 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Just FYI, I'm not talking about the same scam Breaker77 is. I'm talking about when you find an item for which there are none available, or only one available, and you put yours on the market. Shuttles at out-of-the-way stations are the obvious one. The OP's example of putting a Rifter for sale when the market was completely out of stock is another textbook case. This doesn't rely on any major mistake by the user except moving too quickly to count the zeroes.
That's what i was talking about, and how it can be a risk. Buying up all the stock for a popular item and then relisting at a stupid price, hoping someone will bite.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.11.24 05:02:00 -
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Usually the broker fees alone are prohivitive to this. I would not want to be the person relisting Rifters at 200 when people start relisting theirs at only a 100% markup.
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Herman Klaus
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Just FYI, I'm not talking about the same scam Breaker77 is. I'm talking about when you find an item for which there are none available, or only one available, and you put yours on the market. Shuttles at out-of-the-way stations are the obvious one. The OP's example of putting a Rifter for sale when the market was completely out of stock is another textbook case. This doesn't rely on any major mistake by the user except moving too quickly to count the zeroes.
That's what i was talking about, and how it can be a risk. Buying up all the stock for a popular item and then relisting at a stupid price, hoping someone will bite.
Right, but you don't go out and say "I think I'll screw with Rifter prices today." What you do is respond to an opportunity. Say you're trying to buy a Rifter and you notice that by some fluke Jita is all out. Or say you're in an out of the way system and realize there are no shuttles in the station. Then you take advantage of the opportunity.
I thought it went without saying that it'd be dumb to try and create an artificial situation for this purpose.
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