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mchief117
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Posted - 2010.11.23 07:35:00 -
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Hull û Orca
Purpose û Tower tear down
Description û The aptly named Squid is O.R.EÆs solution to the ever growing population of abandoned towers whose system codes block the deployment of new towers while being more than a speck in the background doing nothing.
While the standard solution for tower removal has been a blasT of gunfire and torpedo launchs it is both a waste of ammunition, time, and a good still usable POS structure. To this end O.R.E developed a special array system that allows for the hacking of offline Pos towers and there recovery.
The use of this ship requires a module known as a ôrecovery arrayö in order to use this module the Squid must be within 250M of the tower and is locked in place while active, unlike siege modules you may cancel the activation at any time restoring ship mobility but you must complete the full cycle to get the tower. The squid itself can carry up to 4 ôrawö towers which are restored to ônormalö status once they are placed in a station/POS hanger.
The recovery array is a complex set of large robotic arms with various tools to break through and into a towers hull to access the tasty goodness inside. It has 2 effects depending on if the tower is currently active or offline.
Note: both the ship and the module require a skill to use both reduce the time required to hack a tower up to a total of 50% with both at Level 5
When recovering an active tower i.e. one that is still online but its shields are down it takes 4 hours, every additional Squid that works on the tower reduces the time by 20 minutes with the tower going to the Squid that started first.
When recovering a offline tower its internal defences are low on power and even lower the longer it remains offline , starting at 4 hours, every day the tower remains offline reduces the time for recovery by 5 minutes ( with more squids reducing time as above)
It will always take at least 15 minutes to recover a tower.
Additionally after 2 weeks of inactivity concord no longer considers it a hostile act to recover a tower in high sec as by that time the emergency supplies for the towers crew will be running out.
Why this would be of benefit -Removal and reuse of the plague of offline towers that some people simple donÆt care enough to reclaim on their own -Due to towers can now be taken some of the people with the offlines may recover them -No real way to abuse the system, any potential target of the squid was going to be dealt with by gun fire anyways and would have been destroyed.
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Crazy KSK
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Posted - 2010.11.23 09:25:00 -
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id rather see the story behind it that the code of the tower gets hacked and it then goes over into your hands and then can get unanchored but w/e a ship like that is needed imho the orca is not too big nor too small as a hull the prices of towers won't really feel it as the price will go down by 200% with incursion anyway so...I see nothing against such a ship
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:33:00 -
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I personally quite like this sort of idea gives a new orca variant that can be used just about anywhere especially within wh's to remove some of them pesky towers that seem to be abandoned.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:53:00 -
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I don't like the idea that it can be used on an online tower with no shields.
So...quick way to bash down a POS - punch through the shields and then set up five squids next to it. Boom - suddenly POS armor becomes meaningless. --Vel
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mchief117
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Posted - 2010.11.23 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin I don't like the idea that it can be used on an online tower with no shields.
So...quick way to bash down a POS - punch through the shields and then set up five squids next to it. Boom - suddenly POS armor becomes meaningless.
sorry i ment for that to include armor as well, basicaly once you get the pos to stucture you could take it
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.23 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: mchief117
Originally by: De'Veldrin I don't like the idea that it can be used on an online tower with no shields.
So...quick way to bash down a POS - punch through the shields and then set up five squids next to it. Boom - suddenly POS armor becomes meaningless.
sorry i ment for that to include armor as well, basicaly once you get the pos to stucture you could take it
You've got the same problem though. An entire layer of defense is suddenly rendered useless, so why have it at all? Let's not forget, POS's are not ships - they have substantial amounts of structure (8,000,000 hit points for a non faction large tower, by example). The idea that you can completely bypass that doesn't sit well with me.
Limit it to solely offline towers (i.e. towers that have run out of fuel and shut themselves down) and I'd tentatively support the idea of hacking them to take them down, if not your exact implementation. --Vel
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Thyme Wasted
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:51:00 -
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Supported with the caveat of no effect on online towers.
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mchief117
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Posted - 2010.11.23 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: mchief117 on 23/11/2010 21:33:07
Originally by: De'Veldrin You've got the same problem though. An entire layer of defense is suddenly rendered useless, so why have it at all? Let's not forget, POS's are not ships - they have substantial amounts of structure (8,000,000 hit points for a non faction large tower, by example). The idea that you can completely bypass that doesn't sit well with me.
Limit it to solely offline towers (i.e. towers that have run out of fuel and shut themselves down) and I'd tentatively support the idea of hacking them to take them down, if not your exact implementation.
Im not seeing the problem here, if you have managed to break a tower donw to only its hull left the towers dead in 20 minutes anyways why not have the ability to bring in a ship to take it, a single squid with full skills will still take 2 hours to crack the tower and if they bring 8 squids 15 minutes minimum.
still seeing that i might not see the issue maybe a compromise
after you bash down the towers hull it enters a second hull state ( sort of like a secondary reinfore like outposts have) that lasts for 1 minute breaking any locks. at this state the tower has 25000 hp ( less than a cruser) with no reistances what so ever , at this time you may attempt to take the pos or fire one more round and finish the job.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:17:00 -
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in favor of new orca variant either way.
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Dog277
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:42:00 -
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why not do something like a special drone with special skills that have to be trained to do this. Didn't they already do something like that then decide it was a bad idea and take them out
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.12.01 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: mchief117
Originally by: De'Veldrin I don't like the idea that it can be used on an online tower with no shields.
So...quick way to bash down a POS - punch through the shields and then set up five squids next to it. Boom - suddenly POS armor becomes meaningless.
sorry i ment for that to include armor as well, basicaly once you get the pos to stucture you could take it
Limit it to solely offline towers (i.e. towers that have run out of fuel and shut themselves down) and I'd tentatively support the idea of hacking them to take them down, if not your exact implementation.
go further, towers offline for more then 30 days
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Stig Sterling
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.12.02 03:37:00 -
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Its a good idea. But why name it a squid?
If you can think of a name that isn't synonymous with the scourge of the universe, I would support it. And may I take this moment to simply say; Kill All Squids!!
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Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2010.12.02 04:06:00 -
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Supported with the provision that it is only offline towers.
If someone let it run out of fuel, then too bad.
Also, really, squid?! Please work on that.
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