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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 19:36:00 -
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Hi experienced JF pilots. Maybe you can save me some time. I'm trying to build a spreadsheet for the profitability of a business that requires a lot of jump freightering, but I don't know how much it costs to jump one, or what the calculation is based on. What's a basic ballpark figure for a "cost per jump", assuming a full load, maximum range, and fairly good skills?
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:33:00 -
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The fuel cost is per light year (ly).
You can use a jump planner to figure out the distance (there are several around, dotlan has one too I think).
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Random Alt1467
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:56:00 -
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The other thing to figure into the cost of the jump is the cost of the cyno ship and if you will have a cyno chain up and running. Cyno lighting in lowsec is about a %50 chance the ship will be popped by pirates. once you have a cyno chain up you will need to keep it stocked with ships that can pop the cyno, enough supplies for your needs, etc etc.
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 21:12:00 -
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So ballpark, what, 20 million per jump?
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Belloche
Caldari Heaven's Avatars Without Remorse.
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Posted - 2010.11.23 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker So ballpark, what, 20 million per jump?
We need more info. How far do you need to go as in lightyears? There are a lot of variables. If isotopes are at 275 isk each and you need 90,000 for a round trip and 8 cynos for a round trip you are talking upwards of 30M for a round trip. What will save fuel costs is having jump drive calibration to V (means longer range so less cyno's needed) as well as jump fuel conservation to V (less fuel needed per jump) and lastly, the jump freighter skill to V (another 10% fuel savings per jump). You will also have to factor in getting the replacement cyno ships and generators and ozone in place because you will lose some of those ships from reds blowing them up from time to time.
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Phyllobates Terribilis
Black Frog Logistics
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:00:00 -
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It also depends on whether or not you want to factor in the cost of the actual cyno pilot. If you've got corpmates, great. If not, you'll need at least one and it will have to be on a separate account. Depending on how you go about it and how many jumps you'll have to make, you might need more accounts. Don't forget the cyno pilot's pod costs and any travel time to get the cyno's into and out of wherever you're staging. You might want to account for a full round trip(s) to prestage your jump fuel, cyno ships, cyno setups, and ozone or else you're going to have to figure in their volume with every load you move. Black Frog LogisticsùLosec/Nosec Jump Freighter Services (Division of Red Frog) |
Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:15:00 -
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What a bunch of trolls on this forum!
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Ten Bulls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker What a bunch of trolls on this forum!
The two most useless comments in this thread are in this post.
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Ave Volta
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2010.11.23 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker What a bunch of trolls on this forum!
I hope this was sarcasm since the feedback was about a helpful as you're ever gonna see...
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ave Volta
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker What a bunch of trolls on this forum!
I hope this was sarcasm since the feedback was about a helpful as you're ever gonna see...
Er, no. Look back at the replies and see if any of them answer the original question.
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Ringo Jeicha
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Posted - 2010.11.24 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Ave Volta
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker What a bunch of trolls on this forum!
I hope this was sarcasm since the feedback was about a helpful as you're ever gonna see...
Er, no. Look back at the replies and see if any of them answer the original question.
Go ahead and answer it then without anything to go on? Or just stfu. --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss |
Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ringo Jeicha
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Ave Volta
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker What a bunch of trolls on this forum!
I hope this was sarcasm since the feedback was about a helpful as you're ever gonna see...
Er, no. Look back at the replies and see if any of them answer the original question.
Go ahead and answer it then without anything to go on? Or just stfu.
No way are you trolls going to trick me into running the calculations myself!
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 24/11/2010 04:15:13
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker No way are you trolls going to trick me into running the calculations myself!
This is the spreadsheet... erm... Science and Industry forum after all.
If I be trollin', I would have replied "over 9000!" or something.
It is about 30 ly (3 jumps) from Jita to Amarr lowsec. That's about 10 million ISK one-way with level 4 skills.
You really should do the math though, as things that seem close by gate travel are not always close when jumping.
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:30:00 -
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Thanks, that works for now!
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