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GIGAR
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:47:00 -
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I was a bit unsure where to post this, but whatever; How much is an ISK worth, to the NON-CAPSULEER?
If you are a normal citizen (living on a spacestation or a planet), and have to earn enough to feed yourself for a day, how much ISK is that?
Another question: Would it be possible to BUY a planet? (in lore terms - perhaps in 0.0 sec) ------------ "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." - Heavy Weapons Guy |
cpu939
Gallente Unknown Soldiers The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: GIGAR I was a bit unsure where to post this, but whatever; How much is an ISK worth, to the NON-CAPSULEER?
If you are a normal citizen (living on a spacestation or a planet), and have to earn enough to feed yourself for a day, how much ISK is that?
Another question: Would it be possible to BUY a planet? (in lore terms - perhaps in 0.0 sec)
ok i came thinking isk to rl money post again.
every planet and spacestation would have its own living cost much like every country in the world does, in fact every town/city has a diffrent living cost.
as to buying a planet with the Capsuleer being as rich and as powerfull as they are i can't see why not. 0101011 001101111 011011000 110000101110100 01101001011011000 1100101001000000 1001110011000010 11101000111010101 11001001100101
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Lutz Major
Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:59:00 -
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Base price of Quafe is about ISK 50. As it is 'the most popular soft drink in the universe' you may set it's price in relation with RL soft drinks.
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Laedy
Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lutz Major Base price of Quafe is about ISK 50. As it is 'the most popular soft drink in the universe' you may set it's price in relation with RL soft drinks.
Yeah but surely, when buying Quafe of the market, you're buying a whole case or shipment of the stuff, not just 1 can/bottle of it. Right?
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 24/11/2010 08:15:12
Originally by: Laedy
Originally by: Lutz Major Base price of Quafe is about ISK 50. As it is 'the most popular soft drink in the universe' you may set it's price in relation with RL soft drinks.
Yeah but surely, when buying Quafe of the market, you're buying a whole case or shipment of the stuff, not just 1 can/bottle of it. Right?
You are buying 0.1m3 of it which equals roughly to 100 liters. 2 liters of Coke (here) = 1 euro 2 liters of Quafe = 1 ISK
Thus ISK = Euro
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chriskun
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:18:00 -
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man those plebeians are poor :P
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GIGAR
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 24/11/2010 08:15:12
Originally by: Laedy
Originally by: Lutz Major Base price of Quafe is about ISK 50. As it is 'the most popular soft drink in the universe' you may set it's price in relation with RL soft drinks.
Yeah but surely, when buying Quafe of the market, you're buying a whole case or shipment of the stuff, not just 1 can/bottle of it. Right?
You are buying 0.1m3 of it which equals roughly to 100 liters. 2 liters of Coke (here) = 1 euro 2 liters of Quafe = 1 ISK
Thus ISK = Euro
Sounds like that makes sense, thanks! :D ------------ "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." - Heavy Weapons Guy |
Vikarion
Caldari Blackened Steel
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Vikarion on 24/11/2010 08:31:07
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik You are buying 0.1m3 of it which equals roughly to 100 liters. 2 liters of Coke (here) = 1 euro 2 liters of Quafe = 1 ISK
Thus ISK = Euro
Actually, if there's any realism, you are buying the powder that is added to the carbonated water in order to create a soft drink. It's not wise to make assumptions off the package size, either, as Eve package sizes are...inaccurate (if they aren't, then Minnie guns are shooting very thin pancakes, not exactly canon).
In any case, this has been answered in Eve News: a very small amount of ISK, left as a tip in Jita, can set a lucky waiter/waitress up for life. In the Eve Chronicle "Prosopagnosia", the main character has never had ISK until he signs up for a whole year of service on a capsuleer ship. As well, a benchmark I've heard tossed around is that 1,000 ISK can set up a planet-side family for the remainder of their natural lives.
So, it would seem that ISK is pretty valuable. - - -
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.24 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 24/11/2010 09:17:26
Originally by: GIGAR
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 24/11/2010 08:15:12
Originally by: Laedy
Originally by: Lutz Major Base price of Quafe is about ISK 50. As it is 'the most popular soft drink in the universe' you may set it's price in relation with RL soft drinks.
Yeah but surely, when buying Quafe of the market, you're buying a whole case or shipment of the stuff, not just 1 can/bottle of it. Right?
You are buying 0.1m3 of it which equals roughly to 100 liters. 2 liters of Coke (here) = 1 euro 2 liters of Quafe = 1 ISK
Thus ISK = Euro
Sounds like that makes sense, thanks! :D
I would like to point out one thing. First, the weight of that .1 m3 is 500 kg.
This means that quafe has a density of 5 g/cm3. For comparison liquid iron has a density of 6.98 g/cm3.
Coke on the other hand has a density of 1.11 g/cm3
so assuming that coke and Quafe have the same density for consumption
500,000 g / (1.11 g/cm3) = 450,450.450(repeating)cm3s of Quafe ~450 liters of Quafe.
2 liters of Coke = 1 euro 450 liters of Coke = 225 euros 450 liters of Quafe = 50 isk
so 50 isk = 225 euros
1 isk = 4.5 euros
We can also conclude that Quafe has a heck of alot of compression for transport. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Token Prophets
Walking Ghost Phase C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2010.11.24 09:32:00 -
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Perhaps the ISK is the currency used by pod pilots and similar.
Local currencies that vary from region to region and often planet to planet are called various things but their "dollar" are all fractions of an ISK, so the locals have a smaller currency for their "smaller" lives.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Token Prophets Perhaps the ISK is the currency used by pod pilots and similar.
Local currencies that vary from region to region and often planet to planet are called various things but their "dollar" are all fractions of an ISK, so the locals have a smaller currency for their "smaller" lives.
And we have a winner! ISK is for the most part only used in the space economy.
When trying to make any conversion, it's best to look at basic stuff. So let's look at wheat.
Base price is 100ISK/unit 1 unit = 1 tonne
In the real world, 1 tonne of wheat at the moment costs around $270, giving us an ISK value of 1 ISK = $2.7
However, this gives us new problems.
Do you really expect even in the future to be able to buy a fully working spaceship for $30'000? ---
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.11.24 10:19:00 -
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Short answer:
CCP didn't really concern itself with a sensible value of isk when pricing many commodities. Additionally, the Chronicle isk values are detached from in-game realites. Hence, a sensible translation of isk value to real-life currency cannot be made from available data. ____
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FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.24 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: FeralShadow on 24/11/2010 10:23:13 how about a direct correlation?
One 30 day PLEX = 360,000,000 isk (average)
30 days of play time = 15.00 USD
Using this straight up example, a single dollar is then worth 24,000,000 isk, so a single penny is then worth 240,000 isk. Thusly, a single isk is currently worth 1/250,000 of a penny
If you wanted to calculate how much RL money someone scammed you out of, or how much RL money a certain alliance takeover is worth, for example, you can simply use this. (though, it's not very RP i suppose).
A billion isk is worth about 45 USD, so someone who stole 10bil would have made 450 bucks. Someone who stole 100mil would have made 4,500 dollars. I believe that's how much the goonswarm exec made off with. Pretty impressive when you think about it then.
This also has nothing to do with how much an isk is worth to a non-capsuleer in Eden. Just some interesting facts. _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura
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Taria A'nor
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Posted - 2010.11.24 10:26:00 -
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I've been reading an EVE book and I 'believe' that each race has it's own currency. eg. Federation Credits.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:07:00 -
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1 isk is worth 1 isk. Every other comparison is wrong. I mean wait 30 seconds and it'll be wrong. Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face. |
Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:15:00 -
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I always assumed each isk is somewhere between 10,000 and 10,000,000 dollars approximately.
This is just based on the notion that even a small spaceship should be costing billions of dollars. ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it). |
Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:18:00 -
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@Quafe:
Yes its density is about 5g/cm¦ that means: Its hardly a liquid. Its most likely 500kg of Quafe powder perhaps its even only the "standard ingredients" that are needed so that would account to "a few grams of stuff per litre of quafe" thus: ISK is alot MORE than a few Euro.
Think about the cost of Spcaeships....a few thousand ISK for a Frigate the size of a 747...how much do you pay for a Jet nowadays? 50million for s small Gulfstream,
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000Hunter000
Gallente Industrial Exploits
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:27:00 -
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Apparently podpilots are regarded as demigods cuz they live forever. So it should be reasonable that the demigods currency is extremely valuable as well.
I also read somewhere a while ago that isk is only traded between podpilots and planetdwellers most likely will never get their hands on any. ________________________________________________
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 24/11/2010 12:34:25
Originally by: Orion GUardian @Quafe:
Yes its density is about 5g/cm¦ that means: Its hardly a liquid. Its most likely 500kg of Quafe powder perhaps its even only the "standard ingredients" that are needed so that would account to "a few grams of stuff per litre of quafe" thus: ISK is alot MORE than a few Euro.
Think about the cost of Spcaeships....a few thousand ISK for a Frigate the size of a 747...how much do you pay for a Jet nowadays? 50million for s small Gulfstream,
I actually did a calculation of based on dilution with water. Interestingly enough water in game has close to the right density in game.
I came up with something like 99.7718% water to get the right density. So it's pretty much entirely the price of water.
Which kind of defeats the purpose of the entire exercise.
Soda prices tend to be based entirely on ability to pay, it's a luxury good. Somewhat impervious to scarcity. Water on the other hand is almost entirely dependent on scarcity.. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:49:00 -
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Google sez: 1 ISK = 0,00413606668 euro's
dang, spaceships are cheap nowadays, just 5000 euros. Ah, the age of advancement.
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:07:00 -
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Pretty sure that 1 ISK = this.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Pretty sure that 1 ISK = this.
/thread --Vel
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.11.24 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Pretty sure that 1 ISK = this.
You think you're so clever! Based on this falsification of value I think we need to go over this. ______________________________
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.24 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ti''anla on 24/11/2010 16:29:17 Did anyone raise that bit of the fluff that said you could basically retire planet-side anywhere on a single ISK, yet?
Because yeah, that's in the official lore somewhere.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2010.11.24 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Marchocias Edited by: Marchocias on 24/11/2010 12:18:26 I always assumed each isk is somewhere between 10,000 and 10,000,000 dollars approximately.
This is just based on the notion that even a small spaceship should be costing billions of dollars.
if you consider a shuttle as being worth about as much as a good cessna prop job you should be in the right area. they fullfill similar roles after all. trying to figure isk to dollars from commodity pricing will just drive you nuts as it's not at all consistent or reasonable.
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:01:00 -
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1.00 ISK = 0.00872981 USD 1.00 ISK = 0.00653023 EUR 1.00 ISK = 0.00553029 GBP
according www.xe.com currency convetor website
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:14:00 -
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if i was an average guy, i would mine for 2 days and be a millionaire.
explain to me how any of the races have Homeless
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:14:00 -
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So when can we pay our FanFest package with ISK?
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:22:00 -
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1 ISK is worth...ummm...1 ISK?
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Midday Toker
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:23:00 -
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I believe I read in a chronical or something that the average planet dweller was lucky to make 10,000 isk in a life time or a year or some ****
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