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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.11.29 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 29/11/2010 14:28:16
For the first part, you got some of the numbers wrong (the correct numbers are in the post you quoted), but yeah, that's generally the gist of it.
Also, no, the "leave in and grant all L5 learning" alternative would not be at all detrimental to any people at all, it would in fact lead to slightly higher effective attributes for EVERYBODY (as opposed to slight decreases for some people in the currently announced version). It would also help those without Learning 5 the most (since it's "SP out of nowhere"), but that's about it... and even that can be corrected by granting everybody extra SP to cover the difference (basically, refund full SP for all learning skills, INCLUDING "Learning", but instead of removing "Learning", set it to L5 for everybody).
Also, leaving it non-maxed and trainable would kind of defeat the purpose of removing learnings in the first place, by simply just leaving 4.76% of it in place as it used to be. Granted, a major reduction to the point of not really being all that detrimental at all (especially since training it to L4 with the currently proposed attributes would take about a day tops even with the worst possible remap), it's still the same kind of problem they wanted to eliminate in the first place (a skill that does absolutely nothing else but help you train faster).
Ah I didn't mean it was detrimental to people to have the learning skill granted at all Vs? That's obviously not true. What I meant was that the solution of giving everyone learning V WOULD solve the problem of people that are going to lose sp/hr under the new system, but it would be at the cost of granting even more bonus to everyone else - the minority get what's fair, and the majority get EVEN MORE. I think that's a push too far in that direction.
By leaving it trainable you allow people the choice to do it or not. There is no bonus training speed anymore so getting it right at the start is not quite as important as it is under the current system, you can leave it a bit and train it later at the same speed you would have as opposed to half speed if you leave the current learning skills untrained at the beginning. It is also less of a priority because people will already be training at NEARLY max training speed under the new system by default, the learning skill whilst giving a bonus that's best to get fairly early, it's not like you can't delay it or even just get it to level III or similar at the start, whilst you sample the rest of the game and get to know it. It's not quite as 'mandatory' as current learning skills are.
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Sieges
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Posted - 2010.11.29 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Make new players start at 20/20/20/20/20 instead of 20/20/20/20/19. MY OCD DEMANDS IT !!!
I agree with this message
/signed /OCD
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irion felpamy
Minmatar Assisted Genocide Unprovoked Aggression
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Posted - 2010.11.30 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Sader Rykane I vote we just reduce Akita T's stats to 19/19/19/19/19...
You know, to keep his OCD under control.
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Why unlike you he came up with a viable solution to the OP's problem.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.01 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: irion felpamy
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Sader Rykane I vote we just reduce Akita T's stats to 19/19/19/19/19... You know, to keep his OCD under control.
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Why unlike you he came up with a viable solution to the OP's problem.
20 looks nicer than 19. Oh, and I also hate prices that go "19.95" too. 20, dammit, 20 ! _
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.12.01 03:34:00 -
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20/20/20/20/20 makes sense.
Nice round figures
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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irion felpamy
Minmatar Assisted Genocide Unprovoked Aggression
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: irion felpamy
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Sader Rykane I vote we just reduce Akita T's stats to 19/19/19/19/19... You know, to keep his OCD under control.
CCP ban this post
Why unlike you he came up with a viable solution to the OP's problem.
20 looks nicer than 19. Oh, and I also hate prices that go "19.95" too. 20, dammit, 20 !
50 looks better than 20 but you can't have that either, be thankfull you are not getting 17.343434 with a random 10-30% bonus that changes each day at downtime.
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Vladimir Nabokov
Rapid Response Rescue and Repair
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:34:00 -
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I didn't really bother with the math but even 20 does look nicer than a 19 at the end. Support for OP.
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fanaka
Full Metal Gimp Suit
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Posted - 2010.12.01 12:02:00 -
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some people need to get a grip seriously, what are you a ****ing collective of rain man or something /dropscocktailsticks |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: fanaka some people need to get a grip seriously, what are you a ****ing collective of rain man or something /dropscocktailsticks
Reality check : we're playing submarines-with-spreadsheets-in-space-Online... so, yeah. _
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Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:31:00 -
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Thank you for the giant yellow letters. I only read that much.
And really, stop whining about the skill chang...oh wait
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: fanaka some people need to get a grip seriously, what are you a ****ing collective of rain man or something /dropscocktailsticks
who isn't around here?
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:58:00 -
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Hooray for not having any effect at all _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts _
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Alexis Sachs
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Hooray for not having any effect at all
Lol, you tried. I'd have preferred your solution, but such is life and we move on.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:04:00 -
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oh come on! you should be used to having your ideas shot down by now
too bad you couldn't make isk on it this time though
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hired goon
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:05:00 -
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Hey everyone look at me, I'm Akita T and I like to necro my own threadnaughts
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Hooray for not having any effect at all
Now let's see how that papercut-thingy of yours works out.. in 2-3 years maybe?
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer Now let's see how that papercut-thingy of yours works out.. in 2-3 years maybe?
I see you're an optimist _
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ZenSun
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:18:00 -
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With great expansions, comes great whineability (yep, just made a word)
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