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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Boinz on 26/11/2010 02:11:53 If you simply cant stand the comments such as: "We want more than the sp from our learning skills" "We deserve more because we are bitter veterans" "Wah i dont like this change because now some noob trains as fast as me and I dont feel 1337 anymore" "Back in my day it was tough to start in this game, now its easy" "this game is being dumbed down. because we are removing learning skills"
Seriously if you agree with me then sign if you are one of these idiots please contract me your stuff and stop playing for the greater good of this community.
Just to clarify for the really idiotic whiners You will always have an X amount of SP advantage over new players. They wont catch up with you, ever.
Just because you have been playing for an x amount of time, doesnt mean you get free **** just because. Seriously grow up, you arent 5 (I hope)
This isnt dumbing down the game, this is just removing an essentially pointless, possibly even broken mechanic, it drives away new players and makes the first month even months of game play a living hell for the ones who stick around. Who Trains to train?
You are getting 60 attribute points added to your char and all your Learning skill sp is refunded, not to mention this is just half of CCP's Christmas surprise. CCP are without a doubt the most interactive most awesome gaming company around, find me a better one and I will take my hat off for you.
Oh yeah, you can still have an advantage over new players, its called the +5 attribute implant set, these cost some 500mill and Im pretty sure not every new player has that amount of dough lying about. tl;dr
Stop whining you morons you are getting more than enough as reimbursement, things change in everything at some point.
Major
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:37:00 -
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0/10
stuff?
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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 0/10
stuff?
You has?
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: HeIIfire11 0/10
stuff?
You has?
Only if you givz
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Max Cetera
Capital Researchs Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:41:00 -
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sure
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:46:00 -
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/sign
fakedit: wait, I thought I was signing for you to be banned. Nevermind.
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mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz Edited by: Boinz on 26/11/2010 02:11:53 If you simply cant stand the comments such as: "We want more than the sp from our learning skills" "We deserve more because we are bitter veterans" "Wah i dont like this change because now some noob trains as fast as me and I dont feel 1337 anymore" "Back in my day it was tough to start in this game, now its easy" "this game is being dumbed down. because we are removing learning skills"
Seriously if you agree with me then sign if you are one of these idiots please contract me your stuff and stop playing for the greater good of this community.
Just to clarify for the really idiotic whiners You will always have an X amount of SP advantage over new players. They wont catch up with you, ever.
Just because you have been playing for an x amount of time, doesnt mean you get free **** just because. Seriously grow up, you arent 5 (I hope)
This isnt dumbing down the game, this is just removing an essentially pointless, possibly even broken mechanic, it drives away new players and makes the first month even months of game play a living hell for the ones who stick around. Who Trains to train?
You are getting 60 attribute points added to your char and all your Learning skill sp is refunded, not to mention this is just half of CCP's Christmas surprise. CCP are without a doubt the most interactive most awesome gaming company around, find me a better one and I will take my hat off for you.
Oh yeah, you can still have an advantage over new players, its called the +5 attribute implant set, these cost some 500mill and Im pretty sure not every new player has that amount of dough lying about. tl;dr
Stop whining you morons you are getting more than enough as reimbursement, things change in everything at some point.
Major
*dumps a bucket of pig blood on you*
PORK!
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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: HeIIfire11 0/10
stuff?
You has?
Only if you givz
I will if you will
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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Soji Kanagawa
Caldari X-ORE
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:49:00 -
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Sooooo you are whining about how people are whining? ______________________________________________________
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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Soji Kanagawa Sooooo you are whining about how people are whining?
Rant != whine.
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: Soji Kanagawa Sooooo you are whining about how people are whining?
Rant != whine.
Excellent, reported
5. Ranting is prohibited
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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: Soji Kanagawa Sooooo you are whining about how people are whining?
Rant != whine.
Excellent, reported
5. Ranting is prohibited
I wonder if I actually get banned for this..
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
I wonder if I actually get banned for this..
I highly doubt it.
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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Boinz
I wonder if I actually get banned for this..
I highly doubt it.
me too tbh
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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Sporked
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: HeIIfire11 0/10
stuff?
You has?
Only if you givz
I will if you will
If you send me your stuff I'll send 3x back!
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Kalza Jang
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:25:00 -
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/signed
The whine-fest over this just gives truth to the saying "Give fans an inch, and they'll demand a foot."
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Aihwa
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:32:00 -
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Do I get an anti-bittervet tshirt?
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Jinx Barker
Caldari GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
"We deserve more because we are bitter veterans"
I don't mind this one... he he he... Oh, and I am fraggin glad the Learning Skills are finally gone. They should have been removed in 2005.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Boinz
Originally by: Soji Kanagawa Sooooo you are whining about how people are whining?
Rant != whine.
Excellent, reported
5. Ranting is prohibited
I wonder if I actually get banned for this..
We couldn't be that lucky. --Vel
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Sully Tude
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:41:00 -
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"I want to feel important" thread perhaps, but he's got a point.
Everyone whining either for or against this change needs to shut the **** up.
/endbitterIWantToFeelImportantpost.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:48:00 -
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Completely agree with the OP. All these whiners cant just be happy that an idiotic and broken mechanic is finally gone. I will be happy to get my 5.3 million SP back. |
Napro
Caldari Simplistic Syndicate Cha0s Theory
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Posted - 2010.11.26 04:05:00 -
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/signed
As a 30m Sp Vet.. enough is enough. Sometimes the many need to come before the few. So what If I lose out on some months of training.. will be more than worth it to be pvping with more and happier noobs. |
mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.26 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Napro /signed
As a 30m Sp Vet.. enough is enough. Sometimes the many need to come before the few. So what If I lose out on some months of training.. will be more than worth it to be pvping with more and happier noobs.
Oh wowzor, 30mil SP.
You're the bees knees bro!
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Jenko Raa
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Posted - 2010.11.26 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: mmmPork
Originally by: Napro /signed
As a 30m Sp Vet.. enough is enough. Sometimes the many need to come before the few. So what If I lose out on some months of training.. will be more than worth it to be pvping with more and happier noobs.
Oh wowzor, 30mil SP.
You're the bees knees bro!
This thread is now about bees.
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Soji Kanagawa
Caldari X-ORE
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Posted - 2010.11.26 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jenko Raa
Originally by: mmmPork
Originally by: Napro /signed
As a 30m Sp Vet.. enough is enough. Sometimes the many need to come before the few. So what If I lose out on some months of training.. will be more than worth it to be pvping with more and happier noobs.
Oh wowzor, 30mil SP.
You're the bees knees bro!
This thread is now about bees.
Is it racist if I hate africanized killer bees? ______________________________________________________
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William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.26 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jenko Raa
This thread is now about bees.
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I RETROLL FOR MAXIMUM DAMAGE. |
Major Kaboomski
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Posted - 2010.11.26 16:55:00 -
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10/10
fake edit 0/10
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Boinz
Caldari Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.11.26 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Major Kaboomski 10/10
fake edit 0/10
Thank you!
fake edit
Originally by: Blane Xero
Sorry, what?
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.11.26 17:04:00 -
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No, you got that wrong.
Cake, me didz! New Eden needs a Public Feature/Idea/Bug-Tracker |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.11.26 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Boinz
This isnt dumbing down the game, this is just removing an essentially pointless, possibly even broken mechanic, it drives away new players and makes the first month even months of game play a living hell for the ones who stick around. Who Trains to train?
It sort of is, or at least removing a 'hurdle' aspect that will test new players, can they continue to play the game and train learning skills (not sit docked up or only log in to queue up skills) or will they actually play as those skills train and add in skills they need like gunnery or drones when the situation presents itself.
Of course it drives some, maybe even most new players away, I'm fine with that, I kind of like it. If you can't accept something like that choice train those learning skills to gain the advantage/benefit of them later OR don't do it (do it minimally) you can train all your ship/weps/industry/etc skills now and play. That choice, though some say it is not really a choice, was a nice way to get rid of some/many 'types' of new players. People who can't deal with less than ideal situation/mechanic are welcomed to EVE where there are dozens of those so the loss of one isn't 'breaking' the grinder that eats up new players and spits them out.
It also is possible that this change opens the door to more players who later will clamor for 'actual' dumbing down of EVE cause once the numbers are in favor of that 'thing' CCP will respond. CCP has shown they are more interested in drawing in more new players vs retaining older ones and this change is geared towards that, only time will tell what other methods/changes CCP makes to further bait more new players into staying/paying. Just because more people play EVE and pay for it doesn't necessarily mean that is a good thing, but anyone is free to flame on with the false assumption that more players = more $$ for EVE and therefore EVE will get better/good for CCP.
TLDR: I'm making cake and no one can have any.
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