Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Bart Starr
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:37:00 -
[1]
What the hell? This is ****ing bull****. Why are we dumbing down the game even further for whiners.
"WAAHH, why oh why, CCP, do I have to do learning skills when they don't DO anything."
They increase your learning speed, you dumb ****s. You have the choice of investing time in them early and reap long term benefits - or you choose to start learning something else and have more abilities up front, and fade in the stretch.
Some of the learning skills could have been woven into the prerequisite tree of various T2 mods and ships to make them more 'relevant' - similar to how Graviton Physics is required for maximizing your HIC.
But removing them and just removes game choices and forces everyone to learn at the same pace. Now its implants or no implants, and the gamers plod forward in their feedlots like stupid cattle. Must be a lot of pro-Obama types calling the shots at CCP for something idiotic like this to happen.
|
Jenny Jihad
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:39:00 -
[2]
Cookie Bart! Cookie! Look over there !
<~~~
|
Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:40:00 -
[3]
Right on. I endorse and/or support this thread. CCP needs to wake up and realize that choices are good.
|
Herping yourDerp
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:40:00 -
[4]
this is why an IQ test should be taken before being able to play eve. learning skills are not Optional, you train them to a decent ammount or your training speed is cut severly, not there is no choice, but you got your remap, and what your going to do in eve career.
|
shinaide
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:42:00 -
[5]
Did you just seriously bring Obama into a topic about internet spaceship pilot learning capabilities?
|
Strrog
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:43:00 -
[6]
Main reason is that learning skill was, is and will be a big turn off for new players, it rbought nothing more then frustration and cut down your eagerness when you start few weeks and would like to do something more productive then sitting in a station and possibly chatting in local... trust me there are way too many other skills noobs need to deal with XD.
|
Klatho Cron
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:44:00 -
[7]
This is the most ****ed up descision since i entered the game 2.5 years ago. Until today you cpp, were heroes in the game industry to me. I lost the faith in you.
Gone are the times in which planning, organisation and dedication to a long term plan gave those an advantage over the lazy and impatient ones. Where sacrificing the moment would give you the laugh later on.
A guy who doesnt play eve knows **** about learnings. So its impossible that someone stays away from this game cause of that. Every new player who, after recognizing and understanding the learnings, quit the game because of that, wasnt worth it anyway. This is true and you all know it.
Shame on you ccp. That was one hell of a wrong descision. But im pretty sure YOU wont regret it.
My ****ing face the day i realized that your goal is not to create a better game anymore but to make more money.
|
Nareg Maxence
Gallente
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:46:00 -
[8]
Having to train learning skills is nothing but forced labor. It's like you have to live two months in a **** concentration camp before you get to play the game.
|
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:47:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Bart Starr What the hell? This is ****ing bull****. Why are we dumbing down the game even further for whiners.
"WAAHH, why oh why, CCP, do I have to do learning skills when they don't DO anything."
They increase your learning speed, you dumb ****s. You have the choice of investing time in them early and reap long term benefits - or you choose to start learning something else and have more abilities up front, and fade in the stretch.
Some of the learning skills could have been woven into the prerequisite tree of various T2 mods and ships to make them more 'relevant' - similar to how Graviton Physics is required for maximizing your HIC.
But removing them and just removes game choices and forces everyone to learn at the same pace. Now its implants or no implants, and the gamers plod forward in their feedlots like stupid cattle. Must be a lot of pro-Obama types calling the shots at CCP for something idiotic like this to happen.
**** learning skills. **** them right up their ass. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. Sic et non. |
Klatho Cron
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:50:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Bart Starr What the hell? This is ****ing bull****. Why are we dumbing down the game even further for whiners.
"WAAHH, why oh why, CCP, do I have to do learning skills when they don't DO anything."
They increase your learning speed, you dumb ****s. You have the choice of investing time in them early and reap long term benefits - or you choose to start learning something else and have more abilities up front, and fade in the stretch.
Some of the learning skills could have been woven into the prerequisite tree of various T2 mods and ships to make them more 'relevant' - similar to how Graviton Physics is required for maximizing your HIC.
But removing them and just removes game choices and forces everyone to learn at the same pace. Now its implants or no implants, and the gamers plod forward in their feedlots like stupid cattle. Must be a lot of pro-Obama types calling the shots at CCP for something idiotic like this to happen.
**** learning skills. **** them right up their ass.
Would you please remove youreself from existance ? You sir, are clearly too stupid for life.
|
|
Gallians
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:53:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Klatho Cron This is the most ****ed up descision since i entered the game 2.5 years ago. Until today you cpp, were heroes in the game industry to me. I lost the faith in you.
Gone are the times in which planning, organisation and dedication to a long term plan gave those an advantage over the lazy and impatient ones. Where sacrificing the moment would give you the laugh later on.
A guy who doesnt play eve knows **** about learnings. So its impossible that someone stays away from this game cause of that. Every new player who, after recognizing and understanding the learnings, quit the game because of that, wasnt worth it anyway. This is true and you all know it.
Shame on you ccp. That was one hell of a wrong descision. But im pretty sure YOU wont regret it.
My ****ing face the day i realized that your goal is not to create a better game anymore but to make more money.
Omg U mad!
Plz don't forget to contract me your stuff before you leave for WOW.
Also: A better game by station spinning? 2/10, too obvious.
|
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:55:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Klatho Cron
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Bart Starr What the hell? This is ****ing bull****. Why are we dumbing down the game even further for whiners.
"WAAHH, why oh why, CCP, do I have to do learning skills when they don't DO anything."
They increase your learning speed, you dumb ****s. You have the choice of investing time in them early and reap long term benefits - or you choose to start learning something else and have more abilities up front, and fade in the stretch.
Some of the learning skills could have been woven into the prerequisite tree of various T2 mods and ships to make them more 'relevant' - similar to how Graviton Physics is required for maximizing your HIC.
But removing them and just removes game choices and forces everyone to learn at the same pace. Now its implants or no implants, and the gamers plod forward in their feedlots like stupid cattle. Must be a lot of pro-Obama types calling the shots at CCP for something idiotic like this to happen.
**** learning skills. **** them right up their ass.
Would you please remove youreself from existance ? You sir, are clearly too stupid for life.
I can spell existence. Also, did you intend to say "you are self" and forgot the apostrophe? Or are you just too ****ty at spelling to know the "e" doesn't belong? **** sake, if your going to challenge someones intelligence, at least use a ****ing spell check you sister ****ing nitwit. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. Sic et non. |
Shadow Nebulae
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:56:00 -
[13]
Originally by: shinaide Did you just seriously bring Obama into a topic about internet spaceship pilot learning capabilities?
He is a ignorant redneck yankee, what do you expect?
|
AchuraLuvPVE
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:57:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Shadow Nebulae
Originally by: shinaide Did you just seriously bring Obama into a topic about internet spaceship pilot learning capabilities?
He is a ignorant redneck yankee, what do you expect?
Actually he's most likely a liberal troll chief running horse
|
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 07:59:00 -
[15]
I support free choice, which is why the learning skills had to go.
A choice where one alternative is completely ******ed is not a choice. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Jennifer Starling
Amarr
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:00:00 -
[16]
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 26/11/2010 08:01:41
Originally by: Bart Starr What the hell? This is ****ing bull****. Why are we dumbing down the game even further for whiners.
Now its implants or no implants, and the gamers plod forward in their feedlots like stupid cattle. Must be a lot of pro-Obama types calling the shots at CCP for something idiotic like this to happen.
Now who's whining here?
|
Black Dranzer
Caldari
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:01:00 -
[17]
Quote: You have the choice of investing time in them early and reap long term benefits - or you choose to start learning something else and have more abilities up front, and fade in the stretch.
So basically, I have the choice of either ****ing myself in the ass in the long term, or not ****ing myself in the ass in the long term.
****, guys. I'm going to need some graphs to help me figure this out.
|
Klatho Cron
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:07:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
.. I can spell existence. Also, did you intend to say "you are self" and forgot the apostrophe? Or are you just too ****ty at spelling to know the "e" doesn't belong? **** sake, if your going to challenge someones intelligence, at least use a ****ing spell check you sister ****ing nitwit. ..
Im not a native english speaker, so sometimes when typing in rage it can happen. Nonetheless you made a valid point. I think i was used to write "existance" so thanks for pointing that one out to me.
|
Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:07:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Tippia I support free choice, which is why the learning skills had to go.
A choice where one alternative is completely ******ed is not a choice.
Nonsense. Perhaps a noob decided to train up Interceptors first, rather than investing in Learning skills up front. In his shiny new Interceptor, his piloting and daring is noticed by a large 0.0 Alliance and his Eve career takes off, leading to fame and fortune.
Alternatively, he could have spent three weeks training learning skills first, and ends up a mindless PVE-oriented carebear Raven-drone, who sells PLEX on the side. Eventually he gets ganked by ninjas, loses it all and he rage-quits.
Its the motha****ing butterfly effect!!!
|
Black Dranzer
Caldari
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:18:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Tippia I support free choice, which is why the learning skills had to go.
A choice where one alternative is completely ******ed is not a choice.
Nonsense. Perhaps a noob decided to train up Interceptors first, rather than investing in Learning skills up front. In his shiny new Interceptor, his piloting and daring is noticed by a large 0.0 Alliance and his Eve career takes off, leading to fame and fortune.
Alternatively, he could have spent three weeks training learning skills first, and ends up a mindless PVE-oriented carebear Raven-drone, who sells PLEX on the side. Eventually he gets ganked by ninjas, loses it all and he rage-quits.
Its the motha****ing butterfly effect!!!
Buying all the learning skills books costs about 25 million.
From the blog, refunding all the learning books would insert 16 trillion isk into the economy.
16 trillion divided by 25 million is 640 thousand.
There are approximately 640 thousand characters with learning skills.
Last I checked, Eve has about 300 thousand subscribers.
Hmm.
|
|
Billy Stevens
Caldari
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:18:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Billy Stevens on 26/11/2010 08:20:51 Quit eve if you dont like the changes :P
EDIT:
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Buying all the learning skills books costs about 25 million.
From the blog, refunding all the learning books would insert 16 trillion isk into the economy.
16 trillion divided by 25 million is 640 thousand.
There are approximately 640 thousand characters with learning skills.
Last I checked, Eve has about 300 thousand subscribers.
Hmm.
Dont forget that there are also 3 character slots for each account/subscriber!
------------------------- Rawr! |
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:20:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Klatho Cron
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
.. I can spell existence. Also, did you intend to say "you are self" and forgot the apostrophe? Or are you just too ****ty at spelling to know the "e" doesn't belong? **** sake, if your going to challenge someones intelligence, at least use a ****ing spell check you sister ****ing nitwit. ..
Im not a native english speaker, so sometimes when typing in rage it can happen. Nonetheless you made a valid point. I think i was used to write "existance" so thanks for pointing that one out to me.
No problem, in the future however, just be sure you use your English language spell checker before you call someone a butt ****ing ******. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. Sic et non. |
Gallians
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:23:00 -
[23]
Y'all capsuleers are posting in a troll thread.
|
Alkahpwn
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:26:00 -
[24]
Think about this:
If you trained all your Learning skills (even the 3x ones) you would have put 5,376,000 (5 Mil Skill points) into it. CCP is offering a 2Mil skill point "gift" WTF? Looks like they are about 3Mil+ shy. I call that a pretty bad return on your investment.
|
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:29:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Alkahpwn Think about this:
Why? It's not like it's accurate.
Quote: If you trained all your Learning skills (even the 3x ones) you would have put 5,376,000 (5 Mil Skill points) into it. CCP is offering a 2Mil skill point "gift"
No. In that case, they're offering a 5M SP gift. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
alittlebirdy
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:35:00 -
[26]
Funny as I know people who, yep, did not do learning skills... it is a CHOICE... spend the time now to train, or do another skill first, etc etc... eve = dumb game...
Just go to world of tanks guys... I'd say 1/2 of it is eve players...
Screw the lagged out blobs. 30vs30 is the fun small gang pvp eve does not have.
|
Merth Righter
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:37:00 -
[27]
Can you contract me your stuff before you leave?
Seriously, you seem to be incapable of seeing this from another perspective. You might as wel leave if you won't change your mind.
|
Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 08:43:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Bart Starr
Now its implants or no implants, and the gamers plod forward in their feedlots like stupid cattle.
One word. remaps.
Originally by: Bart Starr Must be a lot of pro-Obama types calling the shots at CCP for something idiotic like this to happen.
CCP is based in Iceland and couldn't careless how American politics are going
This also wasn't wholly CCP's decision either, they had several meetings with the CSM regarding this and the CSM members approved of it.
If you don't like the views of the CSM members then you shoulda voted. If you did vote and the candidate that supported your values didn't get in, then it proves that you and the others that shares those views are a minority. And if your candidate DID get in, he/she and any other CSM members that shared your view were still considered a minority when it came to the meeting they had with CCP that resulted in this change.
You don't matter, so you might as well give me your stuff on your way out. Either that or HTFU. Good day sir.
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
|
Alkahpwn
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 09:16:00 -
[29]
I stand corrected. All skill points are being re-imbersed. Sry folks, I was wrong.
|
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
|
Posted - 2010.11.26 09:27:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Tippia I support free choice, which is why the learning skills had to go.
A choice where one alternative is completely ******ed is not a choice.
Well, I tend to agree with you here, but even though spending the first month training only learning skills sounds ******ed, the reality is some people did choose to do it, so perhaps the choice shouldn't have been removed... -
I wish I was a three foot tall doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |