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Renan Ruivo
Irmandade Vera Cruz Alliance
844
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Posted - 2012.08.09 13:44:00 -
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What the hell, Sreegs?!
If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.
And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...
But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1673
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Posted - 2012.08.09 13:48:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:What the hell, Sreegs?!
If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.
And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist?
Statics. They're also somewhat, uh, difficult to punish because they're in fairly bricked droneboats. In hisec. EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |
Renan Ruivo
Irmandade Vera Cruz Alliance
844
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Posted - 2012.08.09 13:53:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:What the hell, Sreegs?!
If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.
And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Statics. They're also somewhat, uh, difficult to punish because they're in fairly bricked droneboats. In hisec.
And does that give any sort of tangible profit? AFK mining on a Iteron V with 1 mining laser can also run for several hours ... Although in this case it is very easy to kill it. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
295
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Posted - 2012.08.09 13:59:00 -
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this needed another thread?
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
830
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:02:00 -
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hoped to read something about AFK FW plexer... left disapointed a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1673
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:03:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:And does that give any sort of tangible profit? AFK mining on a Iteron V with 1 mining laser can also run for several hours ... Although in this case it is very easy to kill it.
An Iteron V will eventually run out of cargo space (even fully expanded, it cannot AFK mine indefinitely) and it's a paper thin ship. Can an Iteron even fill up before it depletes the rock? EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |
Sotah Osodin
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:10:00 -
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You can't just bump them out of rep range? |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
903
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:14:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:What the hell, Sreegs?!
If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.
And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...
But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh. They are COSMOS complexes, in high sec. They spawn cruisers and battle ships, with bounties, every few minutes, indefinitely.
CCP may need to make these complexes move, like incursions sites. Once one is done, a new one spawns. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Brokers Clone
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:15:00 -
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In case you are confused about the genesis of this thread...
CCP Sreegs wrote: Dearest Internet Spaceship Pilots, It has come to our attention recently that there are pilots in New Eden engaging in AFK Complex farming. Specific examples of this include such activities as warping into a particular room in a complex, dropping sentry drones, then going to do your laundry or perhaps watch a 24 hour Lazytown marathon. While this activity does not necessitate the use of a 3rd party program in order to carry it out you ARE generating income in an automated fashion while sleeping which is not being present playing the game. As such our automated systems will continue to detect and institute administrative actions for this activity. We do not find this to be acceptable gameplay. All accounts which were tagged prior to this notification will be given the benefit of the doubt and a one-time GÇ£amnestyGÇ¥, removing the offending marks from the account. Going forward any administrative actions will remain in place. Game Design will also be looking at changing our complex systems so that this is no longer possible in the near future. Thank you for your time and attention,
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Brokers Clone
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:20:00 -
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I must say... this feels like a dangerous incursion into the sandbox....
This is an example of someone doing something QUITE risky (AFK in ANY-Sec) Not making use of a bot, or in any automated fashion, retreating if hostilities occur...
The ONLY thing that the devs should do is to make a minor tweak to the game (Say, after a while under barrage, the object getting hit will simply de-spawn for a while... or move... or will return fire aimed at the drones)
In no case should CCP begin to punish for "undesirable, but NON-exploitive behavior" |
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cheese monkey
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:22:00 -
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If i'm running a mission or anom in my passive domi or ishtar (or whatever dronesship) and there are the last few ships to kill... i then get a phone call to leave the house... I'm going to get banned?
I'm sorry but this is stupid. I play eve because i have time free in the day... i work from home and i take care of the house n stuff too. I literally CANNOT give eve my full attention... i never have been able to!
I play, but most of the time i fly passive ships because i am usually AFKish, due to other more important aspects of my life. If CCP don't like this then they can ban me...!! Im sorry but if they change this then they are changing the very reason i started playing and PAYING for this game!! (because it was a sandbox!!)
Essentially CCP is saying that i cannot play anymore! This is the WORST business proposal in the history of the game!!
I understand making botting or using a third party program illegal... but going afk??
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
93
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:23:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:What the hell, Sreegs?!
If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.
And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...
But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh. They are COSMOS complexes, in high sec. They spawn cruisers and battle ships, with bounties, every few minutes, indefinitely. CCP may need to make these complexes move, like incursions sites. Once one is done, a new one spawns.
But I enjoyed bumping those guys until they were off-grid. It was pretty hilarious. Takes a while, but hilarious.
Honestly though, AFK mining and AFK ratting exist in the game because of the PVE game mechanics. If CCP wants to dissuade AFK mining/plexing/ratting/missioning, then they need to change the mechanics so it isn't so mind-numbingly boring while simultaneously easy to AFK.
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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2262
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:24:00 -
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AFK ratting = bad AFK mining = buffed?
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of one man's quest to bring civilization to highsec by bumping miners out of range. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
985
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:26:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote: And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...
...but gosh darnit, I'm going to start a thread anyway!
Derp.
Here's your sign... |
Brokers Clone
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:30:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142098 |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
414
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:33:00 -
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AFK bad
Add code that sends self destruct sequence to ships that have had no interaction via the player
Make it a pop up that appears randomly somewhere on the screen, but at the front of the screen and can't be covered up (not modal Though).
"Self destruct initiated. Press this button to cancel the count down"
This option must be allowed to function on cloaked ships as well ( not sure why you can't initiate self destruct while cloaked mind you, never tried it).
Then add ammo to Drones. Drones are outrageous with their infinite ammo and zero cap usage.
/me retrets tonthe shadows tonlirk and see who gets mad (can usually spot them. They are te loonies saying "U mad?"
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2559
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:39:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:If i'm running a mission or anom in my passive domi or ishtar (or whatever dronesship) and there are the last few ships to kill... i then get a phone call to leave the house... I'm going to get banned?
I'm sorry but this is stupid. I play eve because i have time free in the day... i work from home and i take care of the house n stuff too. I literally CANNOT give eve my full attention... i never have been able to!
I play, but most of the time i fly passive ships because i am usually AFKish, due to other more important aspects of my life. If CCP don't like this then they can ban me...!! Im sorry but if they change this then they are changing the very reason i started playing and PAYING for this game!! (because it was a sandbox!!)
Essentially CCP is saying that i cannot play anymore! This is the WORST business proposal in the history of the game!!
I understand making botting or using a third party program illegal... but going afk??
You're getting upset for nothing. This isn't an issue of people being AFK for some time because of RL intereferes. It's an issue where people log on after DT, go to a plex with infinite respawns, put out their drones with RR on them and go AFK for the entire day. Basicly printing ISK for no effort from the player. This is the same basic problem as with botting and should be made impossible to do. The ruling also seems like a temporary thing until game design can put in a solution, that makes the practise impossible to do. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
440
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:40:00 -
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Isn't more about people sitting in a plex preventing it from respawning while they sleep ?
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
331
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:54:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:What the hell, Sreegs?!
If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.
And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...
But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh.
Sounds like to me you've never done anything in high sec. Why do you believe things in high sec need to be identical to things in WH, low sec, null sec. Each of these areas is dfferent and have their own unique play.. but in case you aren't just a troll, let me explain that an afk pilot in high sec can't stay alive forever either... not only that they can't make that much money if they are truly afk - and even if they are not afk, they make significantly less money per hour than in any other zone in the game.
Maybe if you join eve university and learn about high sec you'd be better off. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
654
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:56:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1769702#post1769702 Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
331
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:00:00 -
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Spurty wrote:AFK bad
Add code that sends self destruct sequence to ships that have had no interaction via the player
Make it a pop up that appears randomly somewhere on the screen, but at the front of the screen and can't be covered up (not modal Though).
"Self destruct initiated. Press this button to cancel the count down"
This option must be allowed to function on cloaked ships as well ( not sure why you can't initiate self destruct while cloaked mind you, never tried it).
Then add ammo to Drones. Drones are outrageous with their infinite ammo and zero cap usage.
/me retreats back into shadows to lurk and see who gets mad (can usually spot them. They are te loonies saying "U mad?"
AFK is not against the eula - people who have problems with AFK cloaking typically are not having any problems with people who are AFK.. Cloaking is not broken in any way - though nerf herders will tell you differently .. it's their agenda. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
2020
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:03:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:cheese monkey wrote:If i'm running a mission or anom in my passive domi or ishtar (or whatever dronesship) and there are the last few ships to kill... i then get a phone call to leave the house... I'm going to get banned?
I'm sorry but this is stupid. I play eve because i have time free in the day... i work from home and i take care of the house n stuff too. I literally CANNOT give eve my full attention... i never have been able to!
I play, but most of the time i fly passive ships because i am usually AFKish, due to other more important aspects of my life. If CCP don't like this then they can ban me...!! Im sorry but if they change this then they are changing the very reason i started playing and PAYING for this game!! (because it was a sandbox!!)
Essentially CCP is saying that i cannot play anymore! This is the WORST business proposal in the history of the game!!
I understand making botting or using a third party program illegal... but going afk??
You're getting upset for nothing. This isn't an issue of people being AFK for some time because of RL intereferes. It's an issue where people log on after DT, go to a plex with infinite respawns, put out their drones with RR on them and go AFK for the entire day. Basicly printing ISK for no effort from the player. This is the same basic problem as with botting and should be made impossible to do. The ruling also seems like a temporary thing until game design can put in a solution, that makes the practise impossible to do.
I'm just going to quote this explanation before the thread gets locked. There's already a thread on this topic here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142098 "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
93
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:04:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Isn't more about people sitting in a plex preventing it from respawning while they sleep ?
If you check out the COSMOS complexes, they are old, old code. They do not de-spawn. Horribly farmed. Biggest problem with completing COSMOS for a normal player is actually being able to get the things you need before the farmers grab them. Players have complained for years about that. The upper level COSMOS are basically unusable at this point because of farmers.
Honestly, I'm not sure why CCP doesn't yank them, then replace them with a more dynamic PVE experience. |
Nostradamouse Riraille
Blackreach. SRS.
36
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:33:00 -
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Nah, the real problems are the lvl 1 DED complex farmers.
Basically they sit in areas that are only accessible by someone else once every hour or so while they wait for the loot to respawn every hour and 15 minute.
You can, in fact, make a decent ammount of cash that way while say, watching tv. Worst part of it : you are completly safe from anything else. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1210
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:34:00 -
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You should put an addendum to the addendum.
"AFK-anything is fine. Just don't AFK-drone-complex-with-infinirespawn-bounty-rats for 16+ hours a day and we'll leave you alone". http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:33:00 -
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AFK=bad! Depends Undergarments=good!
The community speaks... who knew that CCP's game would have a following of Net-Addicted ABDL types...
is disturbed by this and just docks his ships when nature or laundry calls... To mine or not to mine... that is the quesiton. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
414
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:48:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote: AFK is not against the eula - people who have problems with AFK cloaking typically are not having any problems with people who are AFK.. Cloaking is not broken in any way - though nerf herders will tell you differently .. it's their agenda.
Don't be AFK and you'll never explode to the code.
Will also 'enforce' the 'warfare' you're aiming for.
We will know you're active, so we can't rat or mission.
We also know you had to invest in game play here.
Not goofy 'mechanics' to work your 'magic'. Unless, CCP have remarks in their code which specifically says
# The following line allows paying subscribers to "not play our game"
I don't mind you being cloaked and afk, but I don't see why you can't explode because of it. Systems malfunction :-)
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:50:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:this needed another thread?
People enjoying reading their own useless rants irrespective of whether they choose to look for THE SAME FRIGGIN' POST with search... |
Jaangel
Cloak and Badgers
1
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:51:00 -
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Great change should have always been the case.
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:37:00 -
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Since there is already a discussion of this topic on the Missions and Complexes forum, this is an unnecessary duplicate and thus I am going to lock it.
Thread locked as a duplicate - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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