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Valandril
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Posted - 2010.11.30 20:14:00 -
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This provides only false sense of security which makes people care less about trojans which in the end causes more hacks.
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Valandril
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Posted - 2010.11.30 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 30/11/2010 20:56:59
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Valandril This provides only false sense of security ...
The same could be said about passwords really. The only form of fool proof computer security is to never use one for anything.
Ever.
This isn't about making accounts unhackable - that's impossible. This is about making them less easily hacked, and that is exactly what it will do.
As for the cost efficiency thing, I'd be curious to know how long ago CCP looked at it and what the relative costs would be now as compared to then given the (presumably) expanding player base.
Not really, external firewall and common sense fills all your security needs (if set up properly). And using 2nd password doesn't give you ANY protection vs trojans which is the leading cause of hacs. So how does it make accounts less hackable ? And then every idiot will open wiki and think "oh it's 100% secure, now i can launch hot2lesians.avi.exe and be safe".
And yes, we do NOT need password, all we would really need is login AND "show that to other people", not much of a news and a reason why for most part sites drop the idea of login for which your email is used.
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Valandril
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Posted - 2010.11.30 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Valandril Not really, external firewall and common sense fills all your security needs (if set up properly).
Because firewalls never get hacked and information stolen.
Keep on talking more bull****. Do you have any idea what resources it would take just to get access to said firewall (in home you don't need public IP) ? Stop watching swordfish
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Valandril
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Posted - 2010.11.30 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Valandril
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Valandril Not really, external firewall and common sense fills all your security needs (if set up properly).
Because firewalls never get hacked and information stolen.
Keep on talking more bull****. Do you have any idea what resources it would take just to get access to said firewall (in home you don't need public IP) ? Stop watching swordfish
I'm not the one implying that a firewall is some kind of impenetrable forcefield of Internet protection.
Yes you are, or you can't read. Same effect really so cause doesn't carry importance
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Valandril
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Posted - 2010.12.01 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lorelei Lee
Originally by: De'Veldrin As for the cost efficiency thing, I'd be curious to know how long ago CCP looked at it and what the relative costs would be now as compared to then given the (presumably) expanding player base.
Also given the (definitely) expanding amount of assets certain players have accumulated since then, making them more willing to pay to protect said assets. Originally by: Valandril Not really, external firewall and common sense fills all your security needs (if set up properly).
How many people, do you think, can set up their firewall properly? I certainly can't. I am a programmer, not a sysadmin. Originally by: De'Veldrin While this is true, because of the way Eve's login structure works, you would then immediately log them out because last one with the right password wins (try it - I do this to myself all the time. Log in with your client, then open a second copy and log in the same account - first window goes poof!).
Actually, I think the best thing would be for the server to boot both people if they log in with the same login code, and throw up a fat error message about hackers. For added protection, they could make all major asset management features not work until the used login code expires. This still does not protect against a true man-in-the-middle attack, but I don't think anything can prevent that, not even a firewall.
That's why we have such thing as professional administrators which we can hire to set it up for us. I know, never crossed your mind.
Judging from 3rd portion of that post you are a terrible programmer, php4+html i guess ?
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Valandril
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 01/12/2010 02:53:34
Originally by: Lorelei Lee
Originally by: Valandril That's why we have such thing as professional administrators which we can hire to set it up for us. I know, never crossed your mind.
Do you expect me, a regular user of EVE Online, to hire a professional administrator to set up my home network so I can safely play my game? I am not that dedicated. Also, that means I can only enjoy this wonderful security from my home. If I ever log in from elsewhere, I am back to trusting the integrity of my laptop. Originally by: Valandril Judging from 3rd portion of that post you are a terrible programmer, php4+html i guess ?
You disparage my point and you disparage me based upon it, but you offer no indication as to what might be wrong with said point. I believe this is known as an unmitigated personal attack. Please explain what is so wrong with my suggestion as to prompt you to infer which languages I might know.
You mean that "should you pay 200$ to get proper home network setup and keep your 3000$ pc, email, bank accounts secure" ? Yeap you should. If you were to buy home alarm system would you install that yourself too ?
Why would i bother to explain ? I don't want to hire you so your improvement of knowledge and ability to think is in no value to me. You can google around and figure out how trojans that bypass 3rd party key work.
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