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MNagy
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Posted - 2010.12.03 20:31:00 -
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There should be something that can be done with an abandoned pos in a wh.
Even if its a matter of running a codebreaker and a decryptor on it for like 100 positive hacks. So you can unanchor it yourself and go sell it or whatever.
Seems silly for it to just sit there forever waiting to be blown up.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:01:00 -
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Posting to confirm this idea has never been suggested before.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale You won't see us coming until it's too late to do anything about it.
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Alias 6322A
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Alias 6322A on 03/12/2010 21:03:59 I've always wondered why CCP doesn't just make POS and structures deteriorate after a certain amount of time from not being powered (and therefore not maintained?). Think about anchored containers: 30 days before they disappear UNLESS you access them.
30 days is likely too short for something like POS's and their structures, but I think the concept could apply. Maybe 60 days? Instead of "disappearing" though (which would really suck, trust me I know) have them 'deteriorate' at say a rate of 1% on ehp down to like 75% or even as low as 50%. Down to nothing seems silly as I do think you should have to destroy something, even if abandoned, but it would make this task much less painful. From an RP perspective (no I don't RP) you see derelict stations all the time in missions, even in regular space, so they shouldn't just disappear.
All in all, add a penalty for just abandoning the POS. If you won't take care of it, why should CCP? Have them slowly break down to a point where they are still mildly difficult to deal with (in case someone wanted to return to said POS?) but capable of being removed by the local power. WH and Hisec suffer this the worst because of the difficult of employing capitals.
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MNagy
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:38:00 -
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Supporting my own idea - cause I would have made some isk.
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Crazy KSK
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Posted - 2010.12.04 02:46:00 -
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Amy Garzan
The Warp Rats
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Posted - 2010.12.04 03:25:00 -
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This seriously needs to get looked into. I hope the CSM makes this a priority issue as it keeps getting raised. -------------------------------------------------- 101010 The Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything |
Nischara
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Posted - 2010.12.04 11:34:00 -
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supporting for the (minimum) 3rd time OP, please search the forums a bit first, posted many times before
mostly people started complicating things just make anyone able to unanchor a tower after 1 to 3 months without fuel
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1382061&page=2#31 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1392123&page=1#2 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1352645
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MNagy
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Posted - 2010.12.05 21:55:00 -
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Nischara,... why 1-3 months... its obvoisly abandoned even after a week or two.
Making it 'faster' instead of your 1-3 month sceneario also allows pos taking to be 'more worth it'. Instaed of attacking a pos in a wh and destroying the pos, you would just have to 'hold' it for a short period of time to take it.
Thats why I suggested something like the decryptor idea - because you may do all the work and then someone else comes and takes it otherwise (while ur offline wiating for the pos to reach its limit). (take all the pos defences )
Anyway - still would be nice to somehow take it rather than let it sit there. At least we are on the same page.
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Jessica Autumn
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Posted - 2010.12.06 01:11:00 -
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1/3 of the POS's in HIghsec are abandoned. Honestly if there not used in a 15-30 day period they should disapear entirely, some of Us have stuff to build and research.
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klyeme
The Mind's Eye Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.06 02:18:00 -
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I want to steal peoples posses when they are away taking care of their sick grandmother
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Nischara
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Posted - 2010.12.06 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: MNagy Nischara,... why 1-3 months... its obvoisly abandoned even after a week or two.
Originally by: klyeme I want to steal peoples posses when they are away taking care of their sick grandmother
that's why there could be valid RL reasons someone dosent fuel up a pos for a week, and considering the ammount of money and time it takes to put up a pos, a longer timer should protect player investments a bit
also it's actualy possible someone forgets a pos for a week, a large alliance with a lot of poses
i personaly would have no objection to a simple hackoig module or something like that. and just a few minutes of standing next to the thing, the times i posted were based on the feedback i read in other threads about the issue, and i did somewhat agree with them
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.12.06 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Raid''En on 06/12/2010 12:37:52 also wanting this type of thing a 30-60 days delay would be fine. 1 week is too small. if you're such on a hurry go kill the pos yourself. here we're talking about pos really abandonned, not just taking an occasion after someone forgot it a few days. ---------------- ** Wormhole Trading ** |
Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:35:00 -
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+1 Imho it would be a good idea if the pos will loose its shields after some days and after some weeks it will also loose its armor. So there will be only the hull to shoot down.
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MNagy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:41:00 -
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Thought of something that might please everyone....
When a pos runs out of fuel - the Strontium degrades at a rate of ( 1 hour = a day )...so you lose an hour's worth every day.
If the strontium runs out - the pos is somehow claimable.
So lets say you had 15 hours of strontium in your pos. That would mean you have 15 days grace before the pos can be claimed and unanchored by someone else.
-Just a thought.
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Cyprus Black
Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
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Posted - 2010.12.08 13:39:00 -
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/supported.
I lost count how many times I've come across an abandoned POS tower in WH space. _______________________________________
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KAi Dura
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Posted - 2010.12.09 22:04:00 -
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I agree that something should be done with an abandoned POS. I still consider my self a NOOB, As a result I wouldn't know if a POS was abandoned if I tripped over it. Still now that I know they exist, I think it would be good if an abandoned POS became fair game where an enterprising player or corp could take control of a such a POS and make it useful. I also like the idea that if a POS is abandoned then gradualy over a period of months it would break down to the point where it is only worth its salvage value or scrap value. sorta like an abandoned car or house in the real world.
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Skylar Thorne
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:30:00 -
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My main's corp has several abandoned POSes. What has happened is the person who put them up stopped playing EVE, and no one else want to take the time and effort to remove the POS.
The result is every now and then we get a war dec from someone who wants the moon. We just tell them to blow it up, we will not interfere. "No, that's too much work. You take it down or I keep the war dec up FOREVER". Well a little pressure and the war dec went away.
But if the POS had a self destruct button, we would have pushed it long ago. Deterioration is good, but a self destruct is also needed.
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Egilmonsc
Massively Mob
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:38:00 -
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:43:00 -
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It should be considered abandoned the DT after it runs out of fuel and goes offline.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.12.10 05:46:00 -
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I have had towers that were without fuel, inactive due to other demands on corp time, for periods of several weeks.
The idea of allowing "abandoned" POSes to be "salvaged" or otherwise claimed is appealing though.
After three months the POS remains anchored, but ends up becoming "neutral". Whosoever is first to put fuel in the "neutral" POS and start it up gets to claim it as theirs, perhaps?
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