Originally by: Siona Windweaver

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The problem I have with 'Botting is fine/understandable as long as PvE in EVE is so boring/****' argument is that it just puts off the solution (get better PvE in EVE) until later.

Sorry, but I'm not going to argue the 'immorality' of botting just as much as I'm not going to argue the 'understandable' aspect of botting. I don't care about your wounded sense of morality, nor do I care for your spurious justifications.

In the end the only thing that counts is this: botting is killing EVE.

It really is as simple as that. If you have to bot to, basically, participate, the game is broken. Fine. We know that. We've known that for a long long time. But right now, the, and lets be honest here, vast amount of botting, not just in the drone regions but everywhere, is killing the game.

Over the last year or so, perhaps even longer, botting has become endemic. This isn't a matter of discussion whether it is 5% or 15% of the PCU botting, as each bot causes massive damage to the game, it's player driven economy, not least to EVE brand value (We're now getting messages away from EVE-O or SHC like this: "EVE? Ohh, that game is botted to hell and back! I won't play against bots!").

And I don't want to wait until CCP finally gets around to reiterating on PvE, which we all know won't be until several expansions from now. I want CCP to do something NOW. They'll never be able to remove botting entirely, I'm not delusional about that, but right now CCP isn't doing nearly enough about botting, in fact, I don't see any signs that CCP is doing anything at all (one day ban? That's plain silly!).

I'll take any damage banning as many bots as possible will do to the EVE economy. Prices of minerals and T2 go sky high? Fine, that then is where they should be, as bot minerals and ice shouldn't have been in the game entirely. Toppling large alliances because they'll lose their bot income? Fine, very good in fact, they shouldn't have that Isk anyway. Mass permanent bans for bots and all accounts on that IP? Fine, I relish the thought. Mass permanent bans for everyone condoning botting or supporting it? Fine, I relish the thought. Is much as 1/3 of the PCU getting banned over botting or botting related things? Fine, I don't want those bots in my game anyway.

I don't mind any of that, I don't frankly care about protestations to the opposite of the possible effect that may or may not have on EVE. Because, in the end, botting, and the proliferation of botting is already killing EVE. I don't give a rat's arse about possible effects down the road if already the game is ****ed.

The only thing I see confirmed is that after years of this ****, Dr Eggnog still doesn't seem to have a clue about what is really going on in the EVE economy. But I'll gladly trade-in what little satisfaction that confirmation gives me if CCP starts permanently banning ****loads of bots and botting accounts, who are, let's face it, trivially easy to find, RIGHT NOW, and keep on doing so forever more.

It is their job, you know! Providing a level playing field in their game, as much devoid of cheaters as possible, to the customers paying them for their service! Why do CCP's customers consistently have to tell CCP to do their ****ing job already? What is it with these people?

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A well thought out post from Bartholomeus Crane.

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