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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.24 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs Banning non-goon botters while I spew buzzwords and happytalk in an effort to gain more influence at CCP like the rest of the circle-jerks who work here.
FYP (My condolences.)
"I represent those who voted for me, not 'everyone'. Don't give me your entitled voter schtick ..." ~CSM Chair Mittens |
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CCP Sreegs
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Posted - 2011.07.24 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson
Originally by: CCP Sreegs Banning non-goon botters while I spew buzzwords and happytalk in an effort to gain more influence at CCP like the rest of the circle-jerks who work here.
FYP (My condolences.)
I'd appreciate it if you'd
A) Not misquote me B) Stop stalking me, it's creepy
I'm perfectly capable of speaking for myself.
Thanks! |
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Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.24 22:36:00 -
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Darius, I feel bad for you. I'm gonna give you a heads up on the buzzword you should be using more. It's one of Touborg's favorite words, versimilitude. It means, truthlikeness. CCP uses it a lot.
If you drop a few V-bombs at the next big meeting, I'm sure you'll be a non-intern in no time.
"I represent those who voted for me, not 'everyone'. Don't give me your entitled voter schtick ..." ~CSM Chair Mittens |
Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.24 22:40:00 -
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Oops, sorry for the X-post, Darius.
I'd appreciate it if you'd:
1. Not lie (FYP means I've changed the content, so I'm not 'misquoting' you.)
2. Not accuse me of **** I don't do. (okay, technically that's lying, but I had to think of 2 things)
(Stalk you? A week ago I didn't even know you were a goon. Get over yourself, son.)
You do your job and you'll have no complaints from me.
"I represent those who voted for me, not 'everyone'. Don't give me your entitled voter schtick ..." ~CSM Chair Mittens |
Amsterdam Conversations
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Posted - 2011.07.24 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson Oops, sorry for the X-post, Darius.
I'd appreciate it if you'd:
1. Not lie (FYP means I've changed the content, so I'm not 'misquoting' you.)
2. Not accuse me of **** I don't do. (okay, technically that's lying, but I had to think of 2 things)
(Stalk you? A week ago I didn't even know you were a goon. Get over yourself, son.)
You do your job and you'll have no complaints from me.
Look at how proud he is of himself for knowing who the player behind CCP Sreegs is.
He must be a scientist to have found out.
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Jon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:32:00 -
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No more QEN's. Botters will now be allowed to bot with impunity since there will be no more hard evidence to prove that the entire EVE economy is a botfest. C/D?
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson You do your job and you'll have no complaints from me.
I find that very hard to believe.
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Speaker4 theDead
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Ferguson No more QEN's. Botters will now be allowed to bot with impunity since there will be no more hard evidence to prove that the entire EVE economy is a botfest. C/D?
LOL, How would CCP survive without the Botfest?
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Jon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson You do your job and you'll have no complaints from me.
I find that very hard to believe.
What's hard to believe? I give CCP credit when they get it right. I give CCP employees credit when they get it right. Doesn't Turbefield work for CCP?
And I misspelled verisimilitude, sorry, my bad.
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Moon Shadowfall
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Ferguson
Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson You do your job and you'll have no complaints from me.
I find that very hard to believe.
What's hard to believe? I give CCP credit when they get it right. I give CCP employees credit when they get it right. Doesn't Turbefield work for CCP?
And I misspelled verisimilitude, sorry, my bad.
He doesn't believe you have the ability to...not complain, since you do it multiple times a day, in multiple threads.
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Jon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Shadowfall
Originally by: Jon Ferguson
Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson You do your job and you'll have no complaints from me.
I find that very hard to believe.
What's hard to believe? I give CCP credit when they get it right. I give CCP employees credit when they get it right. Doesn't Turbefield work for CCP?
And I misspelled verisimilitude, sorry, my bad.
He doesn't believe you have the ability to...not complain, since you do it multiple times a day, in multiple threads.
Faulty logic aside, have some evidence, maybe that'll help.
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Moon Shadowfall
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Moon Shadowfall on 25/07/2011 21:32:48
Originally by: Jon Ferguson
Faulty logic aside, have some evidence, maybe that'll help.
It takes about 30 seconds most days to run into a post where you are whining and crying.
Yesterday there were 5 threads in which you were doing so..on the first page. A quick check just now....about 2 minutes...show three threads where you are being...an "ass".
Quite easy actually...
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Severian Carnifex
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.26 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: edith prickley Edited by: edith prickley on 20/07/2011 19:54:19 Yup, given that Sreegs has been quiet for a couple of months now and they've silently removed his policy sticky (a very strange move), I'm beginning to have more faith in the botters' point of view: CCP is really just paying lip service to this problem.
Well, we've heard it from Hilmar himself. Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.
So CCP, what are you doing?
Banning botters
Nice to hear that... but i would like to see that too... |
Tsukimaru
Amarr Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.26 12:33:00 -
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Only YOU can prevent forum fires. |
Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2011.07.26 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Hawk Firestorm on 26/07/2011 13:01:35 Well if you truely want to help stop boting then go into features and Ideas and find the post I and other made regarding Mining changes in the Fix mining dont spot bots outsmart them thread.
There's a proposal there to stop em stone cold dead.
And give it your support. |
Feawin
Gallente Northstar Cabal
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Posted - 2011.07.26 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Feawin on 26/07/2011 13:15:52 Only professional l33ts like yourselves can manage to make a thread with serious undertone into a flame-bash thread that CCP now doesnt even bother to read.
As for the OPs original complaint: ~Signed
And before anyone asks, yes im mad. |
Sanwa Dufore
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Posted - 2011.07.28 04:40:00 -
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Noise..... Just keeping it going.
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Sanwa Dufore
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Posted - 2011.07.30 00:19:00 -
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Guess the thread is dead
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.08.12 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Crucis Cassiopeiae on 12/08/2011 19:50:03
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: Vincent Athena CCP Sreggs: Any word on when we get your blog on the anti-bot effort?
I'm putting out a blog in the next week.
that was posted: "Posted - 2011.05.12 10:20:00 - [2455] - "
that's one looooong week...
anything new on this subject?
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Joeve Vess
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:39:00 -
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I do not think that CPP is Being Complacent about botting they would have really nothing to gain and everything to lose by not banning them.
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Kendra Wilkinson
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:42:00 -
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Quote: "there's no bot in our game, just ppl who play every day and 23h/24 in belt"
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Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kendra Wilkinson
Quote: "there's no bot in our game, just ppl who play every day and 23h/24 in belt"
They doing missions now, the new advanced macros can do most lv4 missions and reject difficult ones. Dozens of bots are now active around caldari mission hubs.
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Rykuss
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.13 00:07:00 -
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They've adapted, which was to be expected but you can still find mining bots. Some people chat in local everyday after downtime for about fifteen minutes and then leave their bot to run for the rest of the time the server is up. They've added something to their bio's and all that but the one thing they can't mask is their pattern. I frequent several regions and after a while, you see the pattern. Can I have your Vindicator? :D |
Izida
Caldari EVE-EX Express Courier Service
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Posted - 2011.08.13 00:07:00 -
[2604]
Edited by: Izida on 13/08/2011 00:10:09 Any updates from CCP yet on this? |
Cadet Wiggin
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Posted - 2011.08.13 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rykuss They've adapted, which was to be expected but you can still find mining bots. Some people chat in local everyday after downtime for about fifteen minutes and then leave their bot to run for the rest of the time the server is up. They've added something to their bio's and all that but the one thing they can't mask is their pattern. I frequent several regions and after a while, you see the pattern.
Then your only seeing a small portion of them, a quality coder will input some randomness just for people like you...;-)
I really can't believe this thread has gone on this long, you won't make a dent in it, you never will. It's been a part of the Eve economy since the beginning, and will continue to do so. They don't have the ability to catch that many simply because catching them would require an invasion of people's personal computer, this is still frowned upon in most countries.
Besides you'll see a serious inflationary spiral in everything related to manufacture, as well as serious deflation in GTC prices, as the bots will no longer be purchasing them.
Not to mention the number of accounts that would be lost to CCP. If they actually found a way to boot all the bots, they'd also lose the small players who use them to "Keep up with the Joneses"
Could CCP handle the loss of 30% of it's accounts?
(Could actually be more, I'm simply guessing based on my experience of years of 0.0)
For the record, I don't advocate Bots, or use them. I usually will try and kill them when I find them, but those are only the obvious ones.
But to think you'll ever get rid of them? That is naive beyond belief. They exist in every major mmo, and no one has been able to stop them yet. Do you honestly think CCP's coders have what it takes? Think carefully before answering....
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Rykuss
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.13 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cadet Wiggin
Originally by: Rykuss They've adapted, which was to be expected but you can still find mining bots. Some people chat in local everyday after downtime for about fifteen minutes and then leave their bot to run for the rest of the time the server is up. They've added something to their bio's and all that but the one thing they can't mask is their pattern. I frequent several regions and after a while, you see the pattern.
Then your only seeing a small portion of them, a quality coder will input some randomness just for people like you...;-)
I really can't believe this thread has gone on this long, you won't make a dent in it, you never will. It's been a part of the Eve economy since the beginning, and will continue to do so. They don't have the ability to catch that many simply because catching them would require an invasion of people's personal computer, this is still frowned upon in most countries.
Besides you'll see a serious inflationary spiral in everything related to manufacture, as well as serious deflation in GTC prices, as the bots will no longer be purchasing them.
Not to mention the number of accounts that would be lost to CCP. If they actually found a way to boot all the bots, they'd also lose the small players who use them to "Keep up with the Joneses"
Could CCP handle the loss of 30% of it's accounts?
(Could actually be more, I'm simply guessing based on my experience of years of 0.0)
For the record, I don't advocate Bots, or use them. I usually will try and kill them when I find them, but those are only the obvious ones.
But to think you'll ever get rid of them? That is naive beyond belief. They exist in every major mmo, and no one has been able to stop them yet. Do you honestly think CCP's coders have what it takes? Think carefully before answering....
People like me report your accounts for botting, it's pretty effortless really. I right click and report the ebil botter. Why, you might ask? It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling in my special places. I like your doom and gloom assessment though(EVE will die without botters!!111), it's pretty funny and has been mentioned multiple times already. Thanks for sharing. Can I have your Vindicator? :D |
Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cadet Wiggin
Then your only seeing a small portion of them, a quality coder will input some randomness just for people like you...;-)
I really can't believe this thread has gone on this long, you won't make a dent in it, you never will. It's been a part of the Eve economy since the beginning, and will continue to do so. They don't have the ability to catch that many simply because catching them would require an invasion of people's personal computer, this is still frowned upon in most countries.
Besides you'll see a serious inflationary spiral in everything related to manufacture, as well as serious deflation in GTC prices, as the bots will no longer be purchasing them.
Not to mention the number of accounts that would be lost to CCP. If they actually found a way to boot all the bots, they'd also lose the small players who use them to "Keep up with the Joneses"
Could CCP handle the loss of 30% of it's accounts?
(Could actually be more, I'm simply guessing based on my experience of years of 0.0)
For the record, I don't advocate Bots, or use them. I usually will try and kill them when I find them, but those are only the obvious ones.
But to think you'll ever get rid of them? That is naive beyond belief. They exist in every major mmo, and no one has been able to stop them yet. Do you honestly think CCP's coders have what it takes? Think carefully before answering....
Just because the bots out number the bot hunters, it doesn't mean we have no choice but to stand aside and let them continue to infest our universe like a disease. We all know that we can't possibly get rid of all diseases, but at the very least we have to contain it to manageable levels.
I'm speaking from from a realistic point of view here.
Let's also not forget that other MMOs have their own bot hunters as well. From what I can gather, every MMO has an increasing awareness about the presence of bots in their game. Some have even mustered their own player-driven causes to combat the infestation. Of course, Eve Online is probably one of a few (if not the only) games that allow players to directly retaliate against others without the target's approval. It is perhaps that very reason that has enable us Capsuleers to keep the bot users on their toes.
But anyways, I have seen many excuses that bot users have employed to justify their use of bot programs or the existence thereof.
1. Mining is boring. 2. Missions are boring. 3. Markets are boring. 4. I don't have time to mission/mine because I have a life. 5. I can't mine enough minerals on my own because the prices are so low.
The list goes on. Some bot users admittedly don't even hide the fact that they bot (these sort of bot users usually live in 0.0).
Now the issue we are having is the debate about where bots flourish most: High-sec or Null-sec? Some of us will say it's high-sec because of the protection of Concord as well as the anti-war-dec policies that npc corps have. Others will say it's null-sec because the protection they have with the local alliance (not to mention the ease of spotting a red in local). It's this debate that has probably divided bot hunters for a while, especially since resources for the gankers are limited.
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson
Originally by: CCP Sreegs Banning non-goon botters while I spew buzzwords and happytalk in an effort to gain more influence at CCP like the rest of the circle-jerks who work here.
FYP (My condolences.)
Best "eve is dying" post ever. CCPers, transfer your pensions into something better than CCP stock, because those are the symptoms of a company who's management is too incompetent to handle it's size.
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Gratianus Augustus
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Gratianus Augustus on 13/08/2011 02:30:43 Asking for bots to be policed is like asking Bj÷rg=lfur Thor Bj÷rg=lfsson to just give his money to charity.
Not going to happen.
Originally by: Cadet Wiggin
Could CCP handle the loss of 30% of it's accounts?
The actual players are just a crowd to hide in. They don't need too many now with the larger transactions that can be pushed through the system.
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Serene Repose
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:53:00 -
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Wow! 2600 responses. Are people still botting?
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