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Masatoshi Hamada
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.12.06 00:23:00 -
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how do i make a pvp beracher liek wat i put on it
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.06 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 06/12/2010 00:38:53 Obligatory go Rifter Statement.
[Breacher, Solo Kiting] Overdrive Injector System II Ballistic Control System II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I or Polycarbon Engine Housing Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
I doubt the speed is high enough for the job, you can replace the Missile Dmg Rig with a speed rig and the BCU and/or for Nano's. This would also allow you to fit a longer point to the ship.
The idea is to boot around outside a Frigates 10km Scram and Web range and pepper them with Missiles.
-- I can not decide on a sig yet.
Under Construction.
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Masatoshi Hamada
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.12.06 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 06/12/2010 00:38:53 Obligatory go Rifter Statement.
[Breacher, Solo Kiting] Overdrive Injector System II Ballistic Control System II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I or Polycarbon Engine Housing Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
I doubt the speed is high enough for the job, you can replace the Missile Dmg Rig with a speed rig and the BCU and/or for Nano's. This would also allow you to fit a longer point to the ship.
The idea is to boot around outside a Frigates 10km Scram and Web range and pepper them with Missiles.
ok good ill think im using this but i dun want 2 usr rifter cos eveyione will think im a poser
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2010.12.06 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Masatoshi Hamada ok good ill think im using this but i dun want 2 usr rifter cos eveyione will think im a poser
Or, you know, a reasonable, sane human being who likes to maximize his chances of victory.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.12.06 01:02:00 -
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Quote: ok good ill think im using this but i dun want 2 usr rifter cos eveyione will think im a poser
As opposed to seeing you in a Breacher and thinking you're a noob that doesn't know any better. _________________________________
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.12.06 02:59:00 -
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Edited by: hjgjgfgfgsj on 06/12/2010 03:01:31 Don't use Alara's setup. It's bad, especially for a noob.
[Breacher, Breacher] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Overdrive Injector System II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Warp Disruptor II
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile [empty high slot]
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I [empty rig slot]
With Alara's fit your warp disruptor only has a 20 km range so you'll be awefully close. This setup gives you 24km range enabling you to orbit past 20km, utilizing the range on standard missiles and increasing your survivability, especially against other frigs who will try and warp scramble you.
Personally I would fit a 200mm r/t plate instead of the overdrive injector system, but I think it will be easier starting out in pvp to have more speed and whatnot, especially considering you probably don't have thermodynamics yet.
Yell if you need any tips on how to use it.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.06 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: hjgjgfgfgsj With Alara's fit your warp disruptor only has a 20 km range so you'll be awefully close. This setup gives you 24km range enabling you to orbit past 20km, utilizing the range on standard missiles and increasing your survivability, especially against other frigs who will try and warp scramble you.
Take the time to read before accusing. The foot notes state that by removing the BCU and adding a Nano you get that 24 km point.
Originally by: hjgjgfgfgsj
Personally I would fit a 200mm r/t plate instead of the overdrive injector system,
Don't screw up your speed with a Plate. This setup use low Dmg range weapons. Speed is life and getting caught is death, no exceptions. Once they can apply DPS the difference between 1500 and 2300EHP is pointless. If you are able to be hit by the target or if it is faster then you do not engage.
-- I can not decide on a sig yet.
Under Construction.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.12.06 03:14:00 -
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LOL, footnotes? Who gives? I was talking about the setup you posted and told him to use, no need to weep over it.
I said "personally I would use a plate" im not here asking for advice I'm giving it and like I said the speed mod is better for a noob, but you'd still be reasonably fast with a plate, but with some ehp.
It seems like you care to much about footnotes and petty side thoughts than the content proper.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.06 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: hjgjgfgfgsj LOL, footnotes? Who gives? I was talking about the setup you posted and told him to use, no need to weep over it.
I said "personally I would use a plate" im not here asking for advice I'm giving it and like I said the speed mod is better for a noob, but you'd still be reasonably fast with a plate, but with some ehp.
It seems like you care to much about footnotes and petty side thoughts than the content proper.
Plate doesn't matter as for the disrutor it all depends on haw much room you prefer. If you want high speed High Dmg you have to give your kiting room. If you prefer more room to kite I told them how.
Ha Plate
-- I can not decide on a sig yet.
Under Construction.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.12.06 03:33:00 -
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The reason I would fit a plate is because you're still fast (2500 m/s) enough to kite almost anything, but it will give you an edge against other long range frigs (I've come across several arty rifters this week)
I think I'm gonna fit one of these and go roaming some time.
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Masatoshi Hamada
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.12.06 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: hjgjgfgfgsj Edited by: hjgjgfgfgsj on 06/12/2010 03:01:31 Don't use Alara's setup. It's bad, especially for a noob.
[Breacher, Breacher] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Overdrive Injector System II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Warp Disruptor II
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile [empty high slot]
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I [empty rig slot]
With Alara's fit your warp disruptor only has a 20 km range so you'll be awefully close. This setup gives you 24km range enabling you to orbit past 20km, utilizing the range on standard missiles and increasing your survivability, especially against other frigs who will try and warp scramble you.
Personally I would fit a 200mm r/t plate instead of the overdrive injector system, but I think it will be easier starting out in pvp to have more speed and whatnot, especially considering you probably don't have thermodynamics yet.
Yell if you need any tips on how to use it.
ok i will also try this one
y pirana dose it matter wat caldari missile u use
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.12.06 03:55:00 -
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You've gotta use Piranha missiles because they deal explosive damage and the breacher gets a bonus to explosive missile damage :")
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luvaluva
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:35:00 -
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Wow, folks are taking the bait like pro's.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:50:00 -
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Pro's means pro is.
Pros means multiple units of pro.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:57:00 -
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160 dps and 1500ms overheated with less ehp than most cruiser volleys. Just use a freaking rifter as the difference in cost is so low as to be irrelivant.
[Breacher, Why?] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:00:00 -
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Need more buffer mods in low slots.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Caleidascope Need more buffer mods in low slots.
The only tank you can get in this ship and not gimp its decent dps is being in a gang and not getting primaried. Its just a glass cannon. Now if a high was moved to a mid you only lose a tiny bit of dps but now can toss in something useful like a td or maybe squeeze in a med extender. But that will only happen when ccp decide to rebalance all the t1 frigs and cruisers against all the other crap they have introduced over the years.
Insert soon(tm), 18 months or whatever other meme comes to mind on that one ever getting done though.
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Masatoshi Hamada
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:53:00 -
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Edited by: Masatoshi Hamada on 06/12/2010 05:54:01
Originally by: hjgjgfgfgsj You've gotta use Piranha missiles because they deal explosive damage and the breacher gets a bonus to explosive missile damage :")
ah ok i get it
Originally by: luvaluva Wow, folks are taking the bait like pro's.
Obvious troll is obvious.
u must be really naromindied to think im a troll, im just want to get advice on how to fir a pvp breacher n im going to use the second fit posted
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Just use a freaking rifter
ya i no rifter better but i tryed rifter before this one is new try for me
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:56:00 -
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Purifier > Breacher
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Masatoshi Hamada im going to use the second fit posted
You have 45 seconds of cap in full tackling kite mode so use that 74 dps wisely.
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Masatoshi Hamada
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:08:00 -
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Edited by: Masatoshi Hamada on 06/12/2010 06:10:47
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Masatoshi Hamada im going to use the second fit posted
You have 45 seconds of cap in full tackling kite mode so use that 74 dps wisely.
ok i will use urs thne
Originally by: Anubis Xian Purifier > Breacher
well n oduh purifier is t2 of intuistior if u mean hound thne i think hound can spanks the puirifier
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:19:00 -
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Right... Inquisitor. My bad, I tend to spaz out on the names of ships proletariat fly.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 06/12/2010 06:34:38
Originally by: Anubis Xian Right... Inquisitor. My bad, I tend to spaz out on the names of ships proletariat fly.
Post fit or stfu about the breacher.
I'll start.
[Inquisitor, Cyno Chain Hore] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
[empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Cynosural Field Generator I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Cargohold Optimization I Small Cargohold Optimization I Small Cargohold Optimization I
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oldmanst4r
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.06 07:28:00 -
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Beckons Masatoshi Hamada to come close....
Psst..USE A F**KING RIFTER!!!
Breacher is teh suck
Originally by: CCP Shadow
*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Chaosmancer
Missions Mining and Mayhem
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:12:00 -
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In an age of trimark rigged ab rifter, nano breacher is easy
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Lex Fasces
Amarr New Eden Renegades
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Posted - 2010.12.06 18:41:00 -
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9/10 troll
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Masatoshi Hamada
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Posted - 2010.12.11 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu 160 dps and 1500ms overheated with less ehp than most cruiser volleys. Just use a freaking rifter as the difference in cost is so low as to be irrelivant.
[Breacher, Why?] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
i have some other questiong wolud this b good for pirate
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2010.12.11 00:31:00 -
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Breachers can be used quite effectively, it does a job the rifter doesn't and the truth is that many rifter pilots have been surprised and owned by a well thought out breacher.
The rifter is excellent of course but the breacher is by no means terrible.
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