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Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:05:00 -
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announcement From: DaiseyCutter Sent: 2012.08.10 20:32 To:
Fc Team:
I regret to inform you that we have removed Mr. Wacko and Krany from our channels.
This pains me greatly as I personally like both people and have known Krany for what seems forever but we feel they have both become poisonous to the community and must be given some time to decide if they want to be here or not.
After multiple attempts to petition ccp for ownership of The Valhalla Project, Mr. Wacko and Krany have been attempting to drive wedges between different members of leadership and b/t leadership and the FCs. They have openly shared plans with other communities to tear TVP apart and rebuild their own community. Sadly both now seem to have also lost the ability for civil discourse. They have many interesting ideas, many of which should be considered but instead of patiently proposing them in a civil manner they have resorted to bullying, bomb throwing and threats. In contrast, Pro Engineer discussed many of the same ideas with me civilly and we had a lovely chat. Some of which I will send out in an hour or so in a separate mail, others I am waiting for his written summary as there were too many good ones for my brain to retain!
I know not everyone is happy right now and we want to work with everyone to make this a fun place to be. We have grown quickly and have adapted to many changes along the way. We all know TVP must continue to evolve and we want to engage all of you in how we do that. However revolution for personal reasons hurts the pilots of the community most and without them we have nothing. The interests of the community must take precedence over anyone's personal ambitions.
We truly hope that they will want to come back and be a positive force.
sincerely yours, DC on behalf of the leadership team
And the list of TVP leadership continues to twindle
I am really surprised at the turn that TVP has taken. It's always had a level head for dealing with greifers and rogue FCs.
I think things are taking a turn for the worst though, after the drama that ensued when it was unable to recognize ISN as a rivel incursion community instead of nullsc griefers, it's all just gone down hill.
I've known Krany since i started incursions, not on a personal level but that undeniably recognizable voice over comms. Krany made fleet commanding an ART, not just a skill. I am dumbfounded that she could say or do anything that would even get her temporarily banned from TVP. Those must have been some insane 'threats' to cause daisy to have to ban one of the greatest and most loyal HQ FCs of all time...
Oh yeah an Wacko...
I just have no idea how TVP could be going downhill SOOO fast... |
Sycotic Deninard
Polaris Breach Corp
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:42:00 -
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This is a sad day for TVP as I've flown with both FC's and found them extremely competant and pleasure to fly with. I'm sure when the dust settles we will see them again leading Incursion fleets. |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 06:33:00 -
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Mr. Wacko has apparently had his account banned fro ELULAEUA violation
O.o dafaq is going on |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 06:41:00 -
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Sheit I knew that a lot of people were on a first name basis with devs but this is just hinting at something slightly scary... |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
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Posted - 2012.08.11 07:30:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:Sheit I knew that a lot of people were on a first name basis with devs but this is just hinting at something slightly scary... +1 Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.11 07:31:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Keith Planck wrote:Sheit I knew that a lot of people were on a first name basis with devs but this is just hinting at something slightly scary... +1
I saw fronkfurter and i got all excited and then this is all i got :( |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
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Posted - 2012.08.11 07:38:00 -
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You already said about everything I would have said : / Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |
Trelgar Akiga
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
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Posted - 2012.08.11 10:44:00 -
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I don't know the politics in question, but I know that I have always enjoyed flying in Wacko's fleets and he seemed to genuinely care about the pilots flying with him. Far too often I see people complaining in TVP that there are not enough fleets running, due to a lack of FCs online to run them.
I personally think removing such a competent FC from being able to perform the service he seems to enjoy doing so much weakens the TVP community greatly.
For some FCs, it's all about the grinding out the ISK. But flying in a Wacko fleet was more fun than grind, and if this is not reversed I will miss it greatly.
There are two sides to every story, and I think each and every one of us that truly care about flying with TVP should seek out both sides before making any judgement calls.
Just my personal feelings on this, for whatever little that is worth. |
Safdrof Uta
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
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Posted - 2012.08.11 21:53:00 -
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Wacko was one of the most enjoyable FCs to be found in TVP - and I shall miss him dearly.
Krany was always fun to have in your fleet. I shall miss her as well.
That all being said, there isn't much TVP can do if his accounts been banned. |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 05:58:00 -
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BANS FOR EVERYONE! :D
TVPs banned over half their FC list.
**** is getting GEWD |
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XaNaTo87
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:29:00 -
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Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for trolling on this topic. LOL!!!! |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:31:00 -
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XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!!
"an alt"
Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets... |
XaNaTo87
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:41:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!! "an alt" Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets...
Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll? |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:42:00 -
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XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith Planck wrote:XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!! "an alt" Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets... Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll?
my main has been banned since i told serge i was the one that paid to have nomatechs OGB ganked :X otherwise i would :)
AND SERIOUSLY? your going to say THAT? whats next, criticizing my killboard? |
XaNaTo87
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:46:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith Planck wrote:XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!! "an alt" Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets... Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll? my main has been banned since i told serge i was the one that paid to have nomatechs OGB ganked :X otherwise i would :) AND SERIOUSLY? your going to say THAT? whats next, criticizing my killboard?
No, I just think it's funny when someone called your alt out and said it was you, you started talking about yourself (keith) in 3rd person trying to act like it wasn't really you. |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:48:00 -
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XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith Planck wrote:XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith Planck wrote:XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!! "an alt" Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets... Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll? my main has been banned since i told serge i was the one that paid to have nomatechs OGB ganked :X otherwise i would :) AND SERIOUSLY? your going to say THAT? whats next, criticizing my killboard? No, I just think it's funny when someone called your alt out and said it was you, you started talking about yourself (keith) in 3rd person trying to act like it wasn't really you.
Actually if you knew anything about me, i have ALWAYS talked bout myself in third person when on an alt I actually got banned from BTL like 4 times for cybering with myself in the public channel with my alts :X |
XaNaTo87
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:50:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:blah blah blah
Well, I guess everyone enjoys different parts of the game. I guess your enjoyment comes from being a tool. :) |
Bulaba Jones
Lowsec Static
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Posted - 2012.08.12 06:54:00 -
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this is why I don't run fleets with TVP when I do incursions |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 07:12:00 -
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XaNaTo87 wrote:Keith Planck wrote:blah blah blah Well, I guess everyone enjoys different parts of the game. I guess your enjoyment comes from being a tool. :)
"tool" isn't an accurate insult, try again |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.08.12 10:35:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:BANS FOR EVERYONE! :D
TVPs banned over half their FC list.
**** is getting GEWD
Also just a clarificaiton for the **** that called me a BTL FANBOY LUL
Ammzi was the one that took pictures in ravers fleet, he was also the one that kicked all the logis out
I just told serge it was me so i could get unbanned from everywhere :3
You people need to realize that i literally don't do ANYTHING ever, im a lazy **** ;)
No, that was fishsticksfred by stating that he had "good boosts" and someone should set him fleet commander. Lol.
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Kodavor
Mine3
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Posted - 2012.08.12 12:35:00 -
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This is maybe off topic . I'm still interested in a complete transparency of the so called " Logi replacement fund " for TVP/BTL since i deposited 500 million in it . Where was it spent ? Could I please get a API of the fund holders wallet ? |
ShiroOokami
MoonShadows Incorporated The Lucian Alliance.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:06:00 -
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That is never going to happen, the LFR is controlled by BTL which in turn is controlled by Rivel, an he will never agree to let people see what is in that wallet. |
Kodavor
Mine3
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:09:00 -
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How come ? Isn't it public and for public fleet loss replacement ? Russian incursion chanel has their Fund wallet in their Motd for anyone interested to click and check .
Does he have something to hide ? Mr. Rivel ? Where did my 500 mill go ? What ship loss did I pay for ? |
ShiroOokami
MoonShadows Incorporated The Lucian Alliance.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:15:00 -
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Since I've been flying wwith BTL, I've never heard of anyone bar those in leadership of BTL knowing how much is in the BTL LRF, the only public SRF that was around for awhile was the one TVP had when Dani, Adopt and Serge were running at the beginning of the year. The problem is it got abused and it got decided to just fly under the LRF and nothing else.
Also the transparency people are asking for won't have either, those in charge are happen to keep decisions kept to the inner circle who will more then likely stead fast agree with them over saying no. |
Kodavor
Mine3
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:53:00 -
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Why no ? What is there to hide ? |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:42:00 -
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Kodavor wrote:Why no ? What is there to hide ?
how do you think rivel afks in amarr all day and pays for plex :X |
Kodavor
Mine3
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:58:00 -
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How can he do so ? I don't want to believe it ! That would be so mean and awfull if he ... Mr Rivel ... If that is so then it's almost as if we are in EvE ... oh wait ... |
Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 13:53:00 -
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Kodavor wrote:How can he do so ? I don't want to believe it ! That would be so mean and awfull if he ... Mr Rivel ... If that is so then it's almost as if we are in EvE ... oh wait ...
Meh, If i ever started a fund, it would: 1. Have a public API key 2. Have a CAP of like 3 Bil
I mean were talking about LOGI replacement here :P
I do believe the BTL fund has under 10bil though, nothing to freak out about. Furthermore, if Rivel was actually doing a good job i don't think people would mind paying for his plex since mother-ship loot is so depressingly lame when its split between fleet members. |
Elindreal
Planetary Interactors
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Posted - 2012.08.14 07:43:00 -
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krany fleets moved at the speed of a woman trying to get dressed. better isk per second under other fc's imo~ |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:39:00 -
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Locking thread for being a duplicate.
Keep all your drama to one thread please. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Ensign Community Communication Liasions (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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