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Pater Deus
Gallente Fornax Chemica
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Posted - 2010.12.11 19:13:00 -
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wow, don't even know if the subject name conveys the message but, is there an application that will convert the data of a belt into a readable text?
I'd like to know how many M3 velds, omber, kernite, etc, is in a given belt at any given time and from that of course, how much tritanium, mexallon, etc.
I know the info is there somewhere but am not a programmer.
Is there such aplication available and small enough to load it when playing?
Thanks.
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Ruziel
Minmatar Twilight Military Industrial Complex
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Posted - 2010.12.12 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pater Deus wow, don't even know if the subject name conveys the message but, is there an application that will convert the data of a belt into a readable text?
I'd like to know how many M3 velds, omber, kernite, etc, is in a given belt at any given time and from that of course, how much tritanium, mexallon, etc.
I know the info is there somewhere but am not a programmer.
Is there such aplication available and small enough to load it when playing?
The size and composition of a belt is not static and depends on many factors. The only way to get the information you seek is to use a Survey Scanner on the entire belt and then manually input the number of units from each asteroid into a such a program/spreadsheet.
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Pater Deus
Gallente Fornax Chemica
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Posted - 2010.12.12 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ruziel
The size and composition of a belt is not static and depends on many factors. The only way to get the information you seek is to use a Survey Scanner on the entire belt and then manually input the number of units from each asteroid into a such a program/spreadsheet.
Yeah, maybe local miners could affect the kind and quantity of ores if you choose a belt system full of miners, which is a bad choice under any light, and probably it changes a bit from spawn to spawn but it cannot be a big change. I am not looking to have the grand EVE belt database, only a miner¦s or corp belt database, for today (or tomorrow) mining op.
For a mining-industrial corp or dedicated mining-industrial pilot, this belt info could be obtained in situ and calculate how many resources and or time will be needed to deplete the belt(s) or mine a certain rock to obtain a certain mineral, with actual mining and system refining skills, type of ships, mining lasers, rigs, etc., said miner has or (grouped) corp miners have.
Knowledge of ore types and belt quantities is ready available and can be obtained any time ahead of the mining op and CCP liking for fine detail sure has ore amounts encoded somewhere but not being used like this yet.
This type of in game tool can help corps plan ahead its mining operations among other goals and expand eventually to moon and planetary mining.
We are several thousand years into the future, we are not doing pan mining in a river, our mining ops are worth billions of isk a day in EVE. If primitive earth miners could estimate the amount of ore in a patch of land, surely our technology resources can accomplish this and more.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.12.12 04:16:00 -
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Fit a survey scanner, fly and find out? --
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P3k1
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Posted - 2010.12.14 17:12:00 -
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Really good idea :) I don't think you can extract asked data through survey scanner. Is there an export option in the survey scanner?
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Pater Deus
Gallente Fornax Chemica
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Posted - 2010.12.14 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: P3k1 Really good idea :) I don't think you can extract asked data through survey scanner. Is there an export option in the survey scanner?
Thanks for your support!
Scanners have all de info needed, type, size, distance, etc., but is canot be exported. The overview has also some information.
If this information is read by EVE roid belt scanners, sure the info is there, we just need a programing wizard to get it.
Any programing wizards reading this?
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.12.14 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pater Deus If this information is read by EVE roid belt scanners, sure the info is there, we just need a programing wizard to get it.
Maybe you misunderstood what you were told: This is not a programming problem. The data is not available to the client until you activate a survey scanner module on your ship. Only after that the server cluster sends the data for those asteroids which are in range of your survey scanner to your client. --
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Jeannaqua
Spank A Gank
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Posted - 2010.12.17 00:03:00 -
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It would seem there would at least be a 'temporary' data dump from the scanner that you might be able to use, idk. Surely someone would have found it by now but you never know, maybe no one has looked for it.
The hard way: What you could do is jump in your Orca (Orca scan range bonus FTW) to said site, Scan, do a screen shot of the scan, spread sheet it. Then you have profiles of the belts you're interested in. Keep in mind there will be random changes when the belt re-spawns but shouldn't be enough to bother you.
Fly safe o/
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LTC Vuvovich
Caldari Ice Mining Society
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Posted - 2010.12.18 08:36:00 -
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Pater Hi,
The information you seek will never be made available by CCP in any format. Believe me, been there done that trick many moons ago. Something to do with unfair advantages or something like that.
I have also used my Orca and a 'Dactyl' Scanner to map roid fields in Empire space and built a spreadsheet based on those results. The practice was aborted...and its not hard to understand why.
For all intents and purposes, its a big waste of time anyways, given the amount of time you would spend manually scanning and uploading the data, I could have emptied the belt and stashed your 'data' in my hangar. So the data can never be completely 'accurate' for this very reason.
'Golden Rule' here is...don't count yur chickens before they hatch...
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