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CCP Zymurgist
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Posted - 2010.12.12 18:47:00 -
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On Tuesday December 14, 2010 we will be releasing our Christmas presents to you. One of these is the removal of learning skills. You can read more about it in CCP GrayscaleÆs dev blog here. Since this is something brand new we decided to provide this FAQ to help you with any questions you might have.
Q: What will happen during Downtime on December 14? A: CCP Stillman has a great answer to this. This quote is what happened when we tested the change on Singularity and can expect the same thing to happen on Tranquility.
Originally by: CCP Stillman
- Any injected skill book that was not trained at all was removed without any reimbursement
- Any learning skill you had trained was removed, and all SP you had trained in it was reimbursed as free skill points (See the green text at the top of your skill sheet)
- If you were training a learning skill, the learning skill was removed from the skill queue and your skill queue was restarted with any non-learning-skill you had in your queue
- If you had any learning skill book in a hangar/cargo/corp hangar/container in space/etc., your skill books have been reimbursed at the following values, to the owning entity
- Learning skill book: 31,500.00 ISK
- Tier 1 learning skill book: 35,000.00 ISK
- Tier 2 learning skill book: 4,500,000.00 ISK
- Any learning skill books in a contract have been replaced with a Pax Amarria, and the skill book was reimbursed at same above values.
- Any learning skill books in a market order was reimbursed at the same values listed above
Q: Will my skill training stop during downtime on December 14? A: One of three things will happen during this change. If you have a long skill set you will notice no change aside from having your new attribute points applied to the skill training time. If you have a short skill set that will end during downtime, because of the new attribute points, then you will stop training like normal unless you have another skill in you skill queue. If you have nothing but learning skills in your queue at downtime then your skill training will be paused and the skills removed. Your skill training will only resume if you have a non-learning skill in the queue. Hint Hint
Q: What happened to the learning skill books? A: The learning skill books have already been removed from the NPC market. Any books remaining in a hangar/cargo hold/corporation hangar/container in space/etc. will be reimbursed at the amount posted in CCP StillmanÆs quote above.
Q: Are you going to reimburse us for learning skills we have already trained? A: Sorry you will not get an ISK reimbursement for injected/trained learning skills. For more information why please read CCP GreyscaleÆs blog.
Q: How does this affect my attributes? A: After the change you will be given 12 attribute points in each attribute. This means the default attributes will be 20/20/20/20/19 with Charisma being the 19.
Q: Will we still be able to remap attributes? A: Attribute remaping has not changed. You can still play with your distributable points in the same way after December 14, 2010 as you can today.
Q: I have X.Y million skill points in the learning skills, what happens to them? A: They are placed in your Skill Point Pool.
Q: How do we use my Skill Point Pool? A: You can learn how to redistribute your old learning skill points from this EVElopedia article on Skill Reimbursement.
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CCP Zymurgist
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Posted - 2010.12.12 18:47:00 -
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Q: Do we still get the 100% training speed bonus up until 1.6 million skill points? A: No. You can read CCP GreyscaleÆs Blog for the reasoning behind this change.
Q: *Your question here* A:
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DJWiggles
Gallente Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2010.12.12 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Q: *Your question here* A:
Can I have a Pony?
Love and kisses..
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So Cash
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Posted - 2010.12.12 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: So Cash on 12/12/2010 18:55:25 Q: I put "Focus" on the market for 14mil someone bought it, why? A:?
also somewhat reserved.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.12.12 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/12/2010 18:59:54
Q: Did CCP Santa think of this all by himself or had he help from elves?
Q: Does CCP Santa fly a North Polaris sled?
Q: Does CCP Santa talk with CCP Easter Bunny about additions to this, so that CCP Easter Bunny doesn't bring us something totally unrelated?
Q: Has CCP Easter Bunny a totally coloured Pod, like those Easter Eggs?
Q: What's CCP Santas and CCP Easter Bunnys opinion on Armageddon Day on New Years Eve?
Q: Will CCP Santa give us new Balls for our launchers from last year?
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Arkhelus
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:02:00 -
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Are we going to get a free remap aswell?
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Lirael Dyrim
Gallente In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:05:00 -
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"Any injected skill book that was not trained at all was removed without any reimbursement"
Does that only count for Learning skills or all skills that have not been trained?
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/12/2010 18:59:54
Q: Did CCP Santa think of this all by himself or had he help from elves? CCP Santa drinks beer instead of milk so all the elves had to help out.
Q: Does CCP Santa fly a North Polaris sled? Yes
Q: Does CCP Santa talk with CCP Easter Bunny about additions to this, so that CCP Easter Bunny doesn't bring us something totally unrelated? CCP Easter Bunny was unavailable for comments.
Q: Has CCP Easter Bunny a totally coloured Pod, like those Easter Eggs? Yes, I reported him once for hacking and GM Horse just laughed at me.
Q: What's CCP Santas and CCP Easter Bunnys opinion on Armageddon Day on New Years Eve? They think the current amount of chaos on Tranquility is enough.
Q: Will CCP Santa give us new Balls for our launchers from last year? Have you been a good little boy or girl this year? Guess you will have to wait and see.
Now with answers from me
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CCP Zymurgist
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lirael Dyrim "Any injected skill book that was not trained at all was removed without any reimbursement"
Does that only count for Learning skills or all skills that have not been trained?
Only learning skills.
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Salpad
Caldari Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lirael Dyrim "Any injected skill book that was not trained at all was removed without any reimbursement"
Does that only count for Learning skills or all skills that have not been trained?
There's no logical reason whatsoever for removing injected-but-not-yet-trained skillz from outside the Learning category.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Q: *Your question here* A:
What about my "72 sp/hour"? |
Penicilin
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:10:00 -
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Does our current rewmap stay the same + aded points or it resets to 20.20.20.19? Do we get a mini or full rewmap to reallocate additional attribute points we are getting now (ppl that didn't have all learning skills trained to lvl5)?
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Lirael Dyrim
Gallente In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Salpad
Originally by: Lirael Dyrim "Any injected skill book that was not trained at all was removed without any reimbursement"
Does that only count for Learning skills or all skills that have not been trained?
There's no logical reason whatsoever for removing injected-but-not-yet-trained skillz from outside the Learning category.
Yeah but this is EVE, remember. :P
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Lancashirian
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:11:00 -
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*BOING*
I'm VERY much looking forward to this.
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Dark Odile
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:13:00 -
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Q: If a character with free skill points is tranferred, what happens to the free skill points?
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Kaztor Troy
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kaztor Troy on 12/12/2010 19:15:55 Question: Will characters in accounts that are inactive by Dec. 14th find the SP from learning in their pool, when they reactivate?
P.S. Are any free days promotions coming this x-mas? ^^
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Skin Miner
Minmatar DEM0N HUNTERS
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Penicilin Does our current rewmap stay the same + aded points or it resets to 20.20.20.19? Do we get a mini or full rewmap to reallocate additional attribute points we are getting now (ppl that didn't have all learning skills trained to lvl5)?
A: Based on what I saw on Sisi your current allocation stays the same and you don't get another remap.
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LeadFarmer
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:16:00 -
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Q: was CCP Santa brutally murdered by hackers? Does CCO Santa believe in flying rain deers? A:
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NYTERRORZ
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:16:00 -
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Q: so these attribute points will they default into the assigned learning skill they were taken from or are they assignable to what ever we want? IE there are X ammount of learning skill bonus points to charisma can i put those into intelligence instead?
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realdognose
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:18:00 -
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Q: Are the Skillpoints of partialy trained learning skills reimbursed, too? (i.e. if you have trained 300k from lvl IV to V)
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Odile Q: If a character with free skill points is tranferred, what happens to the free skill points?
Q and A added to second post
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:20:00 -
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Q as my attributes are being reduced at what point will i slow down my training speed? will it be the next time i change or add a skill or will it be the start or end of the downtime
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Giselle Garner
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Arkhelus Are we going to get a free remap aswell?
Every time that CCP change some of our EveMon plans without enough antelation, a baby cry:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EuNx_rpWg10/SQkXnyvnhwI/AAAAAAAAAU0/FdLy0uUw_no/s320/crying_baby.jpg
Please CCP, don't do this baby cry. Give us a neural remap to "correct" the new situation. |
Reicine Ceer
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Reicine Ceer on 12/12/2010 19:21:30 Q:Should i dump my skillpoints into ECM or Gunnery? A: Your Answer Here
Q: But seriously now, is CCP anticipating any negative effects of this change, and if so, is there anything we should look out for? A: Your Answer Here "Grammatically, the word 'nothing' is a noun, which suggests that it refers to something." - Wikipedia |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: NYTERRORZ Q: so these attribute points will they default into the assigned learning skill they were taken from or are they assignable to what ever we want? IE there are X ammount of learning skill bonus points to charisma can i put those into intelligence instead?
The skill point pool does not discriminate based on learning attributes. You can put these points wherever you want! Paging CCP Coffee Machine!
Your re-mappable attribute points will not be touched, and will not change unless you remap them. No rules have been changed considering remaps, just the extra attribute points giving from learning skills are being changed.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Giselle Garner Give us a neural remap to "correct" the new situation.
Would be good, btw, because some peope actualy made new characters in last few months and rempped having learning skills in mind (or purely for learning skills, in "worst" case). |
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CCP Zymurgist
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: realdognose Q: Are the Skillpoints of partialy trained learning skills reimbursed, too? (i.e. if you have trained 300k from lvl IV to V)
Q and A Added to Second post
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Guinness Hooker
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:27:00 -
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tell People what happens if you have max learning skills and a major remap with +5. 22/33/22/26.40/22 if you spent the time you get the shaft
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NYTERRORZ
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:28:00 -
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Q:i wasnt talking about the skill points i was talking about the attribute points that we get from the learning skills. like if you train iron will up to 5 you get 5 perception points from it. or are all the attribute points that come with the learning skills dissapeering as well? because thats gonna increase training time by a lot.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.12.12 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Reicine Ceer Edited by: Reicine Ceer on 12/12/2010 19:21:30 Q:Should i dump my skillpoints into ECM or Gunnery? A: Your Answer Here
Q: But seriously now, is CCP anticipating any negative effects of this change, and if so, is there anything we should look out for? A: Your Answer Here
You may find this thread interesting. It deals with testing these changes on Singularity.
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