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Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 02:57:00 -
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Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:Lilianna Star wrote:Toshiroma McDiesel wrote: People that claim EVE is a "COLD HARSH PLACE" and then whine that someone is afk but cloaked in the system they are trying to rat afk in.
This made me laugh at loud. This is the absolute silliest complaint. I guess being an EVE vet just naturally makes you paranoid, but seriously? Nut up and deal with the idea that the other guy in the system may or may not be spying on you. Yeah, it's like living in a WH: Hmm....someone was on D-Scan for 5 sec's 2 hours ago...have they actually left? (we once had that happen, only a couple of us on, one guy says " Yeah, I'm pretty sure they left" argues with the other guy watching the exit for a bit, flies his orca out, 21 jumps to pick up stuff, 21 jumps back (orca/frieghter pilots will know this take for ever and a half) on entering...is jumped by the people that we were worried about might still be in here 2 hours before. When he asks for ransom, he gets "F**** NO! you made me follow you 21 jumps out and back, your going to DIE!!)
Lol ossum! "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
34
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:02:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Question on the side, actual fact or quote from something? The Valdspar is Holy, it must be allowed to float free. Free of lesser rocks that try to clutter it's Holy Path though the Heavens. |
Corvus Prime
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:04:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Corvus Prime wrote:I was probed out by a gang of pirates looking to gank my Raven while ratting in null. I warped between safes while they attempted to track me down. One of them called me "***** cream" and another a carebear because I outsmarted their gank squad and managed to stay alive. Gotta love these kids . Good job ! How long did they try to get you before giving up? we played cat and mouse for about 5 minutes before giving up. lucky for me they had very short attention spans. but i'll never forget the name-calling that ensued after that encounter. they seemed to have taken my escape very personal. |
Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:05:00 -
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Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." Question on the side, actual fact or quote from something?
Firefly quote...River says it at one point...one of my favorite lines. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:15:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." Question on the side, actual fact or quote from something? Firefly quote...River says it at one point...one of my favorite lines.
Bah, don't remember that one, excuse to go back and rewatch it all over again, I guess
The Valdspar is Holy, it must be allowed to float free. Free of lesser rocks that try to clutter it's Holy Path though the Heavens. |
Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:18:00 -
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Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." Question on the side, actual fact or quote from something? Firefly quote...River says it at one point...one of my favorite lines. Bah, don't remember that one, excuse to go back and rewatch it all over again, I guess
From the episode where they are hauling cattle...when Mal is yelling at Simon for River freaking out she says it.
And you don't need an excuse to watch firefly...actually watching the episode before that one right now...posting on my phone. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1264
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:18:00 -
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Corvus Prime wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Corvus Prime wrote:I was probed out by a gang of pirates looking to gank my Raven while ratting in null. I warped between safes while they attempted to track me down. One of them called me "***** cream" and another a carebear because I outsmarted their gank squad and managed to stay alive. Gotta love these kids . Good job ! How long did they try to get you before giving up? we played cat and mouse for about 5 minutes before giving up. lucky for me they had very short attention spans. but i'll never forget the name-calling that ensued after that encounter. they seemed to have taken my escape very personal. 5 minutes. Wow, persistent. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
332
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Posted - 2012.08.13 05:19:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:I'm not asking for any official definition, I'm asking what YOU think a carebear is.
When you think of carebears, you think of....
...Someone who blows up a 300 million isk ship with a 10 to 20 million isk ship then complains when this activity is addressed in a rebalance. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.08.13 05:33:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Lilianna Star wrote:I'm not asking for any official definition, I'm asking what YOU think a carebear is.
When you think of carebears, you think of.... ...Someone who blows up a 300 million isk ship with a 10 to 20 million isk ship then complains when this activity is addressed in a rebalance.
Wow. I could get 3 or 4 ganks out of 20 mil.
That would need rebalanced. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2012.08.13 05:51:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:no your a carebear because you post with forum alts...
This is my Jita alt. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1264
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:27:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:Lilianna Star wrote:I'm not asking for any official definition, I'm asking what YOU think a carebear is.
When you think of carebears, you think of.... ...Someone who blows up a 300 million isk ship with a 10 to 20 million isk ship then complains when this activity is addressed in a rebalance. Wow. I could get 3 or 4 ganks out of 20 mil. That would need rebalanced. Sounds like you need a dose of nerf. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
583
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:46:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: [...] rabid animals are running rampant looking to ruin lives [...]
My God, he's serious, isn't he. EVE is a video-game, bru. That's all it is. Say it with me: VIDEO... ... GAME.IOW, as someone once said: "Nothing of any value was lost..." (Unknown) Next! Well, don't jump to conclusions. I heard gankers killed his father and raped his mother...
That was Jawas Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
515
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:53:00 -
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Carebears are people who whine about changes, even if they would be better for them or better for the game. Also people who complain about there success and those of others. For example complaining about the success of a venture that results in a glut occurring on the markets and prices falling.
Carebears are not a type of people they are a state of mind. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Adalynne Rohks
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
185
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Posted - 2012.08.13 08:06:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Carebears are people who whine about changes, even if they would be better for them or better for the game. Also people who complain about there success and those of others. For example complaining about the success of a venture that results in a glut occurring on the markets and prices falling.
Carebears are not a type of people they are a state of mind.
Ironically, this actually describes most of the gankers I've read, since I got started here.
I was on the carebear path when I started here, though. I'd consider it a mostly PvE, risk averse type who doesn't like people intruding into his or her activity. Primarily focused on making money/stuff and not into wasting money getting ships (stuff) blown up.
But then... I tried my first ninja loot... and I haven't done a mission since. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4455
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Posted - 2012.08.13 09:26:00 -
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a typo of barebear?
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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.13 19:02:00 -
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I see a carebear as anyone who takes to the forums to complain, whine and moan about how others play the game. They seem to have an idea that they are the authority on the correct method to do things and rail to have the playstyles of those who do not do as they do nerfed into the basement. They are short sighted, never looking past either their egos or the ramifications of the changes that do get made.
In other words, they CARE too much about how others play, and cannot BEAR the idea of anyone enjoying the game in any manner that they do not agree with. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.13 19:41:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:I see a carebear as anyone who takes to the forums to complain, whine and moan about how others play the game. They seem to have an idea that they are the authority on the correct method to do things and rail to have the playstyles of those who do not do as they do nerfed into the basement. They are short sighted, never looking past either their egos or the ramifications of the changes that do get made.
In other words, they CARE too much about how others play, and cannot BEAR the idea of anyone enjoying the game in any manner that they do not agree with.
So, ganker = carebear. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.08.13 19:45:00 -
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The desirable 1% that decides if this game lives or dies |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2012.08.13 20:08:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote: In other words, they CARE too much about how others play, and cannot BEAR the idea of anyone enjoying the game in any manner that they do not agree with.
I lol'd
+1 internets to you...
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Jyuno Terkar
Tranquility Quality Control
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Posted - 2012.08.13 20:30:00 -
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I'd define a carebear as an individual that would like the risk eliminated from their activities, or at least put into their control to a degree. This manifests usually in the idea of consensual only PvP since non-consensual PvP doesn't give the carebear the ability to dictate the risk involved in their activity as they're now coming under threat. Whereas with PvE, it gives the individual more control of how and when an activity is done.
Course I didn't sign up for EVE just to shoot NPC's all day in high-sec. |
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Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
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Posted - 2012.08.13 20:41:00 -
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Carebears are cartoon teddy bears from the 80s with rainbows on their chest, known for caring about others. As such it's actually a terribly inaccurate term to describe those generally labeled as such in MMOs. Those being as Tippia most closely identified as...
Tippia wrote:People who refuse to accept any intrusion in their personal gameplay bubble by other players.
As a group these "carebears" in MMOs care less about others and the game as a whole than most other player groups. In a game like EVE you'll find greater loyalty and concern for other players among PvPers and even in some cases from those identified as "griefers".
The accurate name for such gamers isn't "carebear" it would be Themepark players, because it's the form of structured gameplay that most clearly satisfies their desired gameplay as described by Tippia and others.
I'm not sure what cartoon creature this would be, but it would be a selfish whinny sniveling worm like creature with an attraction to shinny objects I think.
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Kyra Felann
The Scope Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:09:00 -
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I don't think it's about playstyle or occupation at all. Being a manufacturer, a trader, or a miner doesn't automatically make you a carebear.
What makes you a carebear is that you want game mechanics to protect you from any chance of risk or loss or any form of interference from other players. |
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
56
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Posted - 2012.08.13 21:25:00 -
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Carebears are those who do things like join FW and then avoid conflict at all cost so they can farm plexes for LP. Case in point, Nulli.
Also, FWeddit is the home of FW Carebears, just ask Bastrach.
I would also classify miners who are too chickenshit to stand up for themselves and beg CCP to tank their ships for them as carebears.
BTW, I will be the first to admit that I am a reformed carebear. Quit Crying and Just Suck It Up |
Talon Dreyua
Pulse Industries Knights Collective
4
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:11:00 -
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Talos Vaden wrote:I would personally say that a carebear is someone that does not understand that EVE is a multiplayer game based around PvP and tries to play it as though it is a singleplayer game based around PvE. I'd say it's entirely possible to be a high-sec dwelling industrialist without being a carebear. It's more based on attitude than your in-game activities. The difference is the non-carebear industrialist won't whine when they get blown up by suicide gankers or wardec'd by some bored PvPers because they understand that's just part of the game.
This is the main problem here. PVP'ers think that this game is only about PVP. It isn't. It is one aspect of the game. There are many many aspects to the game. PVP isn't for me. I don't like it; it doesn't make me a bad person for not liking it.
PVP'ers can't understand that or don't want to understand that. They seem to only see that there way is the only way and that everyone else is doing it wrong. Myoptic and narisisstic really.
IMO: PVP, like sex, should be consentual....not that I am saying that suicide gankers are akin to rapists. |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
221
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:59:00 -
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Any PvP averse player.
Thing about EVE is that just about everything is a form of PvP. The moment you touch the market, you've PvPed. This makes the only activities that are not PvP: mission running, ratting ... and then only when you don't sell your loot or buy new ships/modules/ammo.
There really are no carebears in EVE, despite what some hard-headed, impassioned players think. I can only assume that such types want to see EVE become something like a Free-For-All League of Legends in space.
The most fun part of EVE is, in my opinion, not the ship-to-ship combat but rather the economical and political combat. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
Qolde
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
58
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Posted - 2012.08.14 03:07:00 -
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I'll give you an example. A whole alliance votes to move to 0.0. The carebears stayed behind to mine ice, and never build **** for the rest of alliance. If someone craps in your sandbox: 1. Light it on fire 2. Grab your shovel 3. Throw it back at them. |
Lilianna Star
State War Academy Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2012.08.14 03:21:00 -
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Mechael wrote:Any PvP averse player.
Thing about EVE is that just about everything is a form of PvP. The moment you touch the market, you've PvPed. This makes the only activities that are not PvP: mission running, ratting ... and then only when you don't sell your loot or buy new ships/modules/ammo.
There really are no carebears in EVE, despite what some hard-headed, impassioned players think. I can only assume that such types want to see EVE become something like a Free-For-All League of Legends in space.
The most fun part of EVE is, in my opinion, not the ship-to-ship combat but rather the economical and political combat.
Wait, you seem to confuse PvP with interacting with other players.
How in the world does, say, buying something off the market act against another player? It's a fair trade. They want your money more than they want their module or ship or whatever, and your money is worthless without the ability to spend it.
Unintentionally aiding someone else act against other players is not a player engaging in PvP. |
Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
100
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Posted - 2012.08.14 03:32:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Mechael wrote:Any PvP averse player.
Thing about EVE is that just about everything is a form of PvP. The moment you touch the market, you've PvPed. This makes the only activities that are not PvP: mission running, ratting ... and then only when you don't sell your loot or buy new ships/modules/ammo.
There really are no carebears in EVE, despite what some hard-headed, impassioned players think. I can only assume that such types want to see EVE become something like a Free-For-All League of Legends in space.
The most fun part of EVE is, in my opinion, not the ship-to-ship combat but rather the economical and political combat. Wait, you seem to confuse PvP with interacting with other players. How in the world does, say, buying something off the market act against another player? It's a fair trade. They want your money more than they want their module or ship or whatever, and your money is worthless without the ability to spend it. Unintentionally aiding someone else act against other players is not a player engaging in PvP.
When I purchase a module for the lowest price, I am denying another person that module at that price...
It's not buyers vs sellers, but buyers vs buyers and sellers vs sellers...
How is this not obvious?
Edit - although there is buyers vs sellers when ever you don't purchase a product for the current market price, or when sellers corner a market to get a premium...just basic market pvp is bvb or svs. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
494
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Posted - 2012.08.14 04:05:00 -
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So far I've gatthered that pretty much everyone in this game is a carebear.
Carebear (kair-bair) noun 1. Someone who plays EVE Online. Nothing Found |
Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
221
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Posted - 2012.08.14 04:06:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Lilianna Star wrote:Mechael wrote:Any PvP averse player.
Thing about EVE is that just about everything is a form of PvP. The moment you touch the market, you've PvPed. This makes the only activities that are not PvP: mission running, ratting ... and then only when you don't sell your loot or buy new ships/modules/ammo.
There really are no carebears in EVE, despite what some hard-headed, impassioned players think. I can only assume that such types want to see EVE become something like a Free-For-All League of Legends in space.
The most fun part of EVE is, in my opinion, not the ship-to-ship combat but rather the economical and political combat. Wait, you seem to confuse PvP with interacting with other players. How in the world does, say, buying something off the market act against another player? It's a fair trade. They want your money more than they want their module or ship or whatever, and your money is worthless without the ability to spend it. Unintentionally aiding someone else act against other players is not a player engaging in PvP. When I purchase a module for the lowest price, I am denying another person that module at that price... It's not buyers vs sellers, but buyers vs buyers and sellers vs sellers... How is this not obvious? Edit - although there is buyers vs sellers when ever you don't purchase a product for the current market price, or when sellers corner a market to get a premium...just basic market pvp is bvb or svs.
In this vein, I would really, really love to see CCP allow us to see who we're purchasing from or selling to before we make the transaction.
EDIT: Better still, on top of this make it so that we can set prices based on standings or even disallow people with bad standings from doing business with us. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
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