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Bodrul
Caldari Future Dynamics
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:27:00 -
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anyone got any suggestions? mainly solo PVP
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Limvala Adur
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:31:00 -
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I'm also interested in seeing this. Most people say Drake is OP, but so far I'm yet to see an actual solo fit that get's the "approved" stamp of the community.
If someone can please post the fit for the widely discussed nano-HAM and nano-HM drakes, please?
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 15/12/2010 22:35:41 [Drake, HAM Drake] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II
Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5 ----------------------------------------------------- This is a pretty bacic Assault Drake, CPU is tight but you can use Meta gear to compensate. It gets around 500DPS and 80k tank.
You can replace the Disruptor for a Scram or the Web for a Painter.
-- I can not decide on a sig yet.
Under Construction.
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Durin Sarga
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:53:00 -
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Might want to consider a Cloak instead of Small Nos II. It is really to taste, but if you like solo PvP staying cloaked while you find a target might help disguise what you are in. Just a thought.
For solo PvP the MWD, Web, Disrupt/Scram are pretty standard. The remaining mids on the drake are dedicated to tank in the form of resists or extenders.
The highs will be be all HAM II's or HML II's depending on your skill or range desired. HAM II's are preferred for higher skilled pilots because the range is still pretty decent with near max skills and the improvement in DPS is significant.
Based on your his and mids this will more than likely dictate your lows. Start with Power Diagnostic System IIs to help tank and grid until you have your fitting of hi/mid slots completed. Then start tweaking with Reactor Control units to sub out PDS for ballistic control units. The DCU II is one of those iffy things with the drake. Try to keep fit it on at first, then see where you stand and make an informed decision regarding what you need more of (tank or gank).
Almost all PvP drakes go with 3 x Medium Core Defence Field Extender. Every so often you'll see someone with an Anti-EM screen reinforcer to plug the EM hole.
And thus you have Drake PvP philosophy.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 15/12/2010 23:00:58
Originally by: Durin Sarga Might want to consider a Cloak instead of Small Nos II.
You dion't really want etheir of those, with the Targeting Delay and the lowered sensor strength you will be hard pressed to capture Cruisers and Battlecruisers. It will increase survivability but will mess up your ability to ensnare hostiles, especially at gates. Also the ammount of CPU it eats will furt your fit severly.
The small Nos on the other hand won't save you from a medium neut while a small Neut will **** tackle frigs hard if they try to get in tight.
-- I can not decide on a sig yet.
Under Construction.
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Durin Sarga
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:04:00 -
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Yeah, my bad. Read your post wrong. Small neut II works.
The only reason I suggested the cloak was for survivability. I guess it depends how long you plan on roaming lo/null sec with no support. I know several mates who fit the cloak for when the big gangs come through.
You're right. It doesn't help you at all during the actual combat though.
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Koshs SC
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Limvala Adur I'm also interested in seeing this. Most people say Drake is OP, but so far I'm yet to see an actual solo fit that get's the "approved" stamp of the community.
If someone can please post the fit for the widely discussed nano-HAM and nano-HM drakes, please?
the community approves the worse setups and fails the best, so i really dont know why you'd want that
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Pinky Starstrider
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Pinky Starstrider on 15/12/2010 23:09:11 Highs 7x HML II
Mid 2x Stasis Web 1x 24K point 1x MWD 1x Invul 1x LSE
Low 2x Nanofiber 2x BCU
3x extender rigs
Kites ham drakes like the above and laughs at them.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm ...
I personally prefer the 3 BCU, DC II, Named Scram, Named Web variant of this. You don't need a RCU, but you do need a 3% grid implant (IIRC). But, people much better than me don't use that fit. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11915381
I give him major props.
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter - Blog got deleted when Evepress died - |
TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:16:00 -
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I use this.
[Drake, HML] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Invulnerability Field II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Salvager I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
If you are exclusively solo'ing though, may be good to swap to HAMs.
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Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 15/12/2010 23:00:58
Originally by: Durin Sarga Might want to consider a Cloak instead of Small Nos II.
You dion't really want etheir of those, with the Targeting Delay and the lowered sensor strength you will be hard pressed to capture Cruisers and Battlecruisers. It will increase survivability but will mess up your ability to ensnare hostiles, especially at gates. Also the ammount of CPU it eats will furt your fit severly.
The small Nos on the other hand won't save you from a medium neut while a small Neut will **** tackle frigs hard if they try to get in tight.
Beat me to it! Definately a Neut. If you can neut the sucker of all his cap quick enough, it saves you from needing the disruptor active.
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Tex Raynor
Caldari The High and Mighty
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tex Raynor on 15/12/2010 23:20:32 keep in mind that although eft shows more ehp when favoring active hardeners vs extenders, extenders make you less vulnerable to neuting. Also, hams take more pg, favoring a tank of active hardeners.
hams vs heavies, as it turns out, balance out if you are ***solo pvping*** when observing the amount of total damage dealt versus your current tank. You may have paper 25% more dps with hams, but you will also have less total buffer.
I'd suggest fit heavies, favor extenders, at least 1 IF, make sure you have a web, long point and MWD. for the lows favor dps, damage control is a personal choice since you are shield tanked, rest fit speed mods if tight on cpu.
edit: rigs are 3 extenders Strategy-wise, try to kite slower targets, use the web to gain that range if needed, or use it to shoot drones while you kite. Faster targets should die if it's a 1v1 and your skills are above average. Your main weakness is getting webbed/scrammed by a neuting ship. -Tex |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 15/12/2010 23:25:49
Originally by: TimMc If you are exclusively solo'ing though, may be good to swap to HAMs.
Depends, in reality ham drake is only better vs bcs.
Originally by: Corporal Punishment08 If you can neut the sucker of all his cap quick enough, it saves you from needing the disruptor active.
Not true.
Nos/neut is situational.
E:
Originally by: Tex Raynor favor extenders
And i suggest you favor invuls. 2x overheated invuls is really big advantage, since you usually can overheat them for the whole duration of fight.
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Tex Raynor
Caldari The High and Mighty
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 15/12/2010 23:25:49
Originally by: Tex Raynor favor extenders
And i suggest you favor invuls. 2x overheated invuls is really big advantage, since you usually can overheat them for the whole duration of fight.
you would say 2 perma-overheated IFs for the entire fight will work better than saving the cap usage from one of them? I have not tested the difference when taking overheat into consideration, and it's true that 2 IFs take a long time to burn out. I guess it would depend on thermo/nanite skills. Your technique also frees up some pg, but can it be used to fit a neut with the range at which you will be engaging? -Tex |
William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.12.16 00:02:00 -
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[Drake, Serious Business] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
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Tex Raynor
Caldari The High and Mighty
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: William Cooly [Drake, Serious Business] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
There's a thread about interceptors a couple posts up.
So when my tank start to fail against you, I overheat? I turn off some active mods? Or do I just warp away?
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Dengen Krastinov
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dengen Krastinov on 16/12/2010 03:28:33
Originally by: Pinky Starstrider Edited by: Pinky Starstrider on 15/12/2010 23:09:11 Highs 7x HML II
Mid 2x Stasis Web 1x 24K point 1x MWD 1x Invul 1x LSE
Low 2x Nanofiber 2x BCU
3x extender rigs
Kites ham drakes like the above and laughs at them.
This pretty much everytime. Webs are everything. No kill below would have been possible without them.
Proof Proof 2 Proof 3
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Pinky Starstrider
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:43:00 -
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Yep the nano drake is pretty much the best drake build around, fleet fights, low man, gate camps, solo you name it and it flies with the best of them.
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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2010.12.16 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Limvala Adur get's the "approved" stamp of the community.
The community here very rarely agrees on things. And most people just repeat rhetoric without putting any thought behind it just so they can look cool.
Waiting for someone to tell them what is best and why is what is wrong with EVE players and why there are many ships that are severely underestimated in the right fits and with the right tactics.
tl;dr People are stupid.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tex Raynor ...
Oh invuls should last at least 2mins, probably more. They give you 5 + 5k additional ehp and better resists for rr. In bigger fighs drake is never target of neuts, in 1v1s the only bc that realisticaly has chance of capping out drake is dual neut cane. In that case small nos would be helpful to hold scram, because you will win even if in the last 15secs of fight your invuls will be turned off.
And i dont think that drake is able to fit med neut without big sacrifices of his dps/tank.
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dengen Krastinov Edited by: Dengen Krastinov on 16/12/2010 03:48:37
Originally by: Pinky Starstrider Edited by: Pinky Starstrider on 15/12/2010 23:09:11 Highs 7x HML II
Mid 2x Stasis Web 1x 24K point 1x MWD 1x Invul 1x LSE
Low 2x Nanofiber 2x BCU
3x extender rigs
Kites ham drakes like the above and laughs at them.
This pretty much everytime. Webs are everything. No kill below would have been possible without them.
Proof Proof 2 Proof 3
(btw, am I allowed to link killmails as long as they're hyperlinked like this?)
Please tell me you are joking. Seriously? Feeling awesome cause you killed 3 frigates with a battlecruiser, or that you killed a carebear fit vagabond? Normal BC fits kill vagabonds if the pilot is stupid, which I expect that one was.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:23:00 -
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Funny that all killed ships were failfits.
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