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Grass Whole
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Posted - 2010.12.17 17:14:00 -
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BS's have XL shield reps why not XL armor reps? It's bad enough that armor boats use their tank and dps mods in the same area.
For example: you use an armor fitted Cane for a lvl 3 mission, then have to use that same armor rep for lvl 4's in a Tempest. it doesn't scale.
if you use EVEHQ to work up your fits before implementation. you'll see a remarkable difference in the tank for a shield vs armor ship.
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Rixiu
The Forgotten Navy
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Posted - 2010.12.17 17:26:00 -
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I'd love to see you put a large armor rep on a hurricane. Shield and armor are different, just as they should be.
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Ogogov
Gallente Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.17 17:26:00 -
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Lol can you imagine the fitting requirements for a module like that?
"well.. you can fit an XL armor rep... but you're limited to electron blasters for damage. HURP DERP"
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ImmaSplodeYou
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Posted - 2010.12.17 20:35:00 -
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OP needs to realise that, as has been said above, Armour and shield are different. If they were both the same there would be little point to using one over the other
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.17 21:10:00 -
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XL Armor reps would have no place to fit in the game as at the moment armor reps are used as dual reps to a single shield rep.
And yes armor tanks can reduce your DPS shield tanks can reduce your tackle.
Armor reps have better cap stability
Shield reps, Rep More but with more cap.
XL Shield Reps are equivalent to 2 large armor reps.
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Altaica Amur
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.12.17 22:00:00 -
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Sure, would you mind if we reduced the cap:hp ratio down to 1.5 and gave you moar mods to try and fix that instead?
If not then I think you can live ( quite happily I'd guess ) with your Large armor reps.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.18 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rixiu I'd love to see you put a large armor rep on a hurricane. Shield and armor are different, just as they should be.
[Hurricane, New Setup Please don't do this] Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gyrostabilizer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x1
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sYnc Vir
Caldari Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2010.12.18 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Rixiu I'd love to see you put a large armor rep on a hurricane. Shield and armor are different, just as they should be.
[Hurricane, New Setup Please don't do this] Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gyrostabilizer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x1
lol, idiot. This sigs has been removed due to the gross **** it showed.
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 03:47:00 -
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People just dont understand that Active armor and Active Shields are Different.
Shields is Large duration Large alpha, large cap drain
Armor is Smaller Duration Smaller alpha, moderate cap drain
This is why when you look at armor you look at taking 2 reppers and cycling them so that they fire at different times.
while shield reps are all about timing you pulse them because running them is extremely cap intensive.
For Large ARmor you perma run 1 rep and Pulse a second, and your better off than an XL shield booster, which is one large alpha rep and huge cap drain followed by a large wait.
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 19/12/2010 19:53:20
Originally by: Ogogov Lol can you imagine the fitting requirements for a module like that?
"well.. you can fit an XL armor rep... but you're limited to electron blasters for damage. HURP DERP"
We (armor fits) have the slowest rep rate with the biggest cap use and the only real interesting mods (over 1000un/rep) cost over 1B
Autocanons are fine
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steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:06:00 -
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There is a XL shield booster, but no XL armor rep. There is a XL armor plate, but no XL shield extender.
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:13:00 -
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Large Armor Rep 2
PG 2300 CPU 55
AC cost 400gj Duration 15 seconds Boost 800hp
Large Armor rep *2
PG 4600 CPU 110
AC cost 400gj Duration 7.5 seconds Boost 800hp
XL Shield Booster
PG 550 CPU 230
AC cost 400gj Duration 5 seconds Boost 600hp
Medium Armor Rep 2
PG 178 CPU 28
AC cost 160gj Duration 12 seconds Boost 320
Medium Armor rep *2
PG 356 CPU 56
AC cost 160gj Duration 6 seconds Boost 320
Large Shield Booster 2
PG 165 CPU 115
Activation cost 160 Duration 4 seconds Boost 240
If you notice the XL shield is 1 third the cpu on a maelstrom While 2 larges is less than 1 fifth of the hyperions powergrid
The idea of armor reps was to dual rep them while shields being single boost thats why theres less steps to armor reps but they are easier to fit.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bobbeh People just dont understand that Active armor and Active Shields are Different. Shields is Large duration Large alpha.
Woot? shields deal massive alpha? *alphas a Ninja salvager with his XL shield booster
Give armor reppers Alpha damage as well! Full support!
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