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Tatator
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Posted - 2010.12.18 12:10:00 -
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I'm new to Eve online, very existed by the deepness of the game play... I've been working hard this week to gain my first millions ISK through colony development, I was very proud of it until I discovered... Plex.... almost a billion ISK for only 36 USD... what is the point now to continue if this is just a matter of a few dollars?...
I thought Eve was a real demanding gamer oriented MMO, but I can see it has the same greedy marketing tricks that more commercial one... Finally I'm not sure to want to go on, my motivation is gone...
Please, just remove this legal game spoiler
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ImmaSplodeYou
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Posted - 2010.12.18 12:24:00 -
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I'm not sure whether or not it's the broken english, the confusing syntax or the incorrect price of PLEX that confuses me, but this post delivers much headscratch
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.12.18 12:46:00 -
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Just don't use it and live happy in the knowledge that all the ISK you earned was fair and/or square.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.12.18 15:56:00 -
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Think of it this way; you don't need to grind isk to fund your fun. \o/ Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Tatator
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Posted - 2010.12.18 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou I'm not sure whether or not it's the broken english, the confusing syntax or the incorrect price of PLEX that confuses me, but this post delivers much headscratch
OK, let me try again, though English is not my mother tong: you can buy in your account management a bundle of 2 plex (30 days each) for 34.99 USD (not 36, sorry). You can then sell it in the in-game market between 300 and 500 million ISK each, therefore between 0,6 and 1 billion all together... which for the rookie I am is a real fortune (I make hardy a million a day)! so why shall I spend months struggling to earn what I can get with a few clicks and a few dollars? this is just like playing with cheating codes... not fun and demotivating to think that I'm playing a game where you can play with a VIP statut if you pay more... and yes, I can just ignore it, which I try to do, but usually when you play a game you like to know every body has the same rules and constraints... and IDK is the main constraint with skills.
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ImmaSplodeYou
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Posted - 2010.12.18 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tatator
Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou I'm not sure whether or not it's the broken english, the confusing syntax or the incorrect price of PLEX that confuses me, but this post delivers much headscratch
OK, let me try again, though English is not my mother tong: you can buy in your account management a bundle of 2 plex (30 days each) for 34.99 USD (not 36, sorry). You can then sell it in the in-game market between 300 and 500 million ISK each, therefore between 0,6 and 1 billion all together... which for the rookie I am is a real fortune (I make hardy a million a day)! so why shall I spend months struggling to earn what I can get with a few clicks and a few dollars? this is just like playing with cheating codes... not fun and demotivating to think that I'm playing a game where you can play with a VIP statut if you pay more... and yes, I can just ignore it, which I try to do, but usually when you play a game you like to know every body has the same rules and constraints... and IDK is the main constraint with skills.
Okay, well yeah that can be problematic but I don't think alot of people really sell PLEXes for ISK, and the ones that do are terrible players, new, lazy or all three. I would honestly just not worry about it and look on the bright side ; You can play for free when you make enough cash! I don't know what you're doing wrong so that you're only making a mill a day, That's like 2 Level II missions... either invest in better ships, weapons and/or skills to allow you to run missions faster or go rat in nullsec. I'm struggling to think how you can make so little money apart from doing nothing
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.12.18 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tatator You can then sell [PLEX] in the in-game market between 300 and 500 million ISK each, therefore between 0,6 and 1 billion all together... which for the rookie I am is a real fortune (I make hardy a million a day)! so why shall I spend months struggling to earn what I can get with a few clicks and a few dollars? ... and IDK is the main constraint with skills.
ISK just buys you nice new ships to get blown up by someone with better player skills than you. Character training, module selection, flying style and a bigger fleet will determine who wins a fight.
If you'd like to find more in-game means of earning your ISK, read the Making ISK guide to find interesting ways of getting it without using RL money.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.18 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chesty McJubblies Think of it this way; you don't need to grind isk to fund your fun. \o/
Or you have more fun if you like to grind (or like industry or trading etc) You get to use your profits to pay for mutiple accounts with isk...have an alt in every region.. park cloaky scouts etc... all paid for via your game play effort that you enjoy.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.12.18 18:23:00 -
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your an idiot if you think its game spoiling, it allows players to buy with in game money 30 days of game time, for about 380mil atm.
if i buy 1 year of game time, its basically selling 6 months of it. supply and demand is at work. if every player bought plex for RL money the price would crash, since the demand is so high right now the price is high.
1 year ago plex was like 200mil. i bought 4 plex's when i first played. 800mil is nothing. its like 1 freightor and a battleship. not to meantion you need skills to fly stuff.
with current plex prices, a titan is about $2000
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.12.18 20:40:00 -
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You need to look at the flip side, I play eve with 2 accounts for free by trading my spare isk for plex's.
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Arkanor
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2010.12.19 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Tatator You can then sell [PLEX] in the in-game market between 300 and 500 million ISK each, therefore between 0,6 and 1 billion all together... which for the rookie I am is a real fortune (I make hardy a million a day)! so why shall I spend months struggling to earn what I can get with a few clicks and a few dollars? ... and IDK is the main constraint with skills.
ISK just buys you nice new ships to get blown up by someone with better player skills than you. Character training, module selection, flying style and a bigger fleet will determine who wins a fight.
If you'd like to find more in-game means of earning your ISK, read the Making ISK guide to find interesting ways of getting it without using RL money.
Are you implying you can't just buy enough PLEX to have a few billion for a better character?
Because you can.
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Greniard
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Posted - 2010.12.19 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Arkanor
Originally by: Mara Rinn
ISK just buys you nice new ships to get blown up by someone with better player skills than you. Character training, module selection, flying style and a bigger fleet will determine who wins a fight.
Are you implying you can't just buy enough PLEX to have a few billion for a better character?
Because you can.
Bolded the keyword for you.
Also, I very much do like playing games for free.
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy Spreadsheets Online
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Posted - 2010.12.19 03:46:00 -
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Confirmed for RMT loser whose business is failing because plex exists.
Supported. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.12.19 05:14:00 -
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So let me break down what you're saying.
A new player, with zero understanding of this game, wants a drastic game changing element removed because it makes him feel sad?
lol no.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.12.19 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tatator I'm new to Eve online, very existed by the deepness of the game play... I've been working hard this week to gain my first millions ISK through colony development, I was very proud of it until I discovered... Plex.... almost a billion ISK for only 36 USD... what is the point now to continue if this is just a matter of a few dollars?...
Once you win at eve you won't be selling PLEX for isk, but making enough isk to buy PLEX. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.12.19 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cyprus Black So let me break down what you're saying.
A new player, with zero understanding of this game, wants a drastic game changing element removed because it makes him feel sad?
We did live quite happily before they were introduced you know so wouldn't call it a drastic anything. It is like taking the TV away from a modern family, its a luxury, nothing more, pigs are still firmly on the ground. Despite the OPs age he does have a point, the ability to transfer real world assets into game at the drop of a hat has had an impact on the game, it is I think at least partially responsible for the change to Capitals Online.
@OP: Eve, unlike practically all other MMORPGs, is not about the destination but the journey. As your skills and thus access to better hardware improve you'll never be strapped for cash ingame and you'll have a lot of various ways to make it .. I have found it best to combine various activities (missions+industry for instance) to maximize output.
As for suggestion, no thank you. I have not paid a single cent since PLEX were introduced and would like it to remain that way .. the less parties that has access to my CC data the more secure it is.
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Tatator
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cyprus Black So let me break down what you're saying.
A new player, with zero understanding of this game, wants a drastic game changing element removed because it makes him feel sad?
lol no.
My friend, a rookie pays the same monthly fee as you do and has the same right to express his view as everybody, right? You may not share my view, but if you decide to argue, just give arguments.
Not all MMORPG allow to buy in game credit with real money and I'm quite disappointed to discover that this game, which impress me a lot, does... it is against the spirit of the gamer I've been for more than 20 years now...
I have just a couple of weeks in Eve online and I enjoy it very much, focusing for now on level 1 mission and colony management. But I'm quite sure, from the discussions I've had with my fellow corp members that I'm not the only one to disapprove Plex.
Now, it is just my point of view and you don't have to agree.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tatator My friend, a rookie pays the same monthly fee as you do and has the same right to express his view as everybody, right? You may not share my view, but if you decide to argue, just give arguments.
Not all MMORPG allow to buy in game credit with real money and I'm quite disappointed to discover that this game, which impress me a lot, does... it is against the spirit of the gamer I've been for more than 20 years now...
I have just a couple of weeks in Eve online and I enjoy it very much, focusing for now on level 1 mission and colony management. But I'm quite sure, from the discussions I've had with my fellow corp members that I'm not the only one to disapprove Plex.
Now, it is just my point of view and you don't have to agree.
A couple weeks? So you barely have a grasp on half the mechanics and you want to cut out a part of the game that's been around for half a decade? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Tatator
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Originally by: Tatator My friend, a rookie pays the same monthly fee as you do and has the same right to express his view as everybody, right? You may not share my view, but if you decide to argue, just give arguments.
Not all MMORPG allow to buy in game credit with real money and I'm quite disappointed to discover that this game, which impress me a lot, does... it is against the spirit of the gamer I've been for more than 20 years now...
I have just a couple of weeks in Eve online and I enjoy it very much, focusing for now on level 1 mission and colony management. But I'm quite sure, from the discussions I've had with my fellow corp members that I'm not the only one to disapprove Plex.
Now, it is just my point of view and you don't have to agree.
A couple weeks? So you barely have a grasp on half the mechanics and you want to cut out a part of the game that's been around for half a decade? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Same up. Give me an argument in favor of Plex, boy, or move your way.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:50:00 -
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They help people who have financial problems IRL play an MMO despite your hissy fits.
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Tatator
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources They help people who have financial problems IRL play an MMO despite your hissy fits.
I see... this is the charity side of the game, therefore... I'm too selfish, you are right...
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: EdFromHumanResources on 19/12/2010 11:58:12 You are whining like a spoiled child.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:38:00 -
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purpose of PLEX is that young players (who sell PLEX for ISK) subsidize bitter vets (who buy PLEX with ISK).
This way the bittervets keep their accounts active even if they have lost interest in the game because for them it is "free".
(and new players getting a tempban and possibly negative wallet for purchasing ISK from a 3rd party website within the first few days/weeks of playing might not be good for customer retention.^^
Typical new player behavior: runs the first few tutorial missions, asks in NPC corp chat "what's a good ship to have?" - reply is "Raven" or "Golem", new player looks at the market, looks at his wallet, looks at the market again to double-check the number of zeros
- and at that point he either asks a more experienced player "WTF is up with prices - it will take me years to buy anything!?!", says "screw it - what a dumb game" or he remembers his RL income and looks for an opportunity to buy ISK.)
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Tatator
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Posted - 2010.12.20 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II purpose of PLEX is that young players (who sell PLEX for ISK) subsidize bitter vets (who buy PLEX with ISK).
This way the bittervets keep their accounts active even if they have lost interest in the game because for them it is "free".
(and new players getting a tempban and possibly negative wallet for purchasing ISK from a 3rd party website within the first few days/weeks of playing might not be good for customer retention.^^
Typical new player behavior: runs the first few tutorial missions, asks in NPC corp chat "what's a good ship to have?" - reply is "Raven" or "Golem", new player looks at the market, looks at his wallet, looks at the market again to double-check the number of zeros
- and at that point he either asks a more experienced player "WTF is up with prices - it will take me years to buy anything!?!", says "screw it - what a dumb game" or he remembers his RL income and looks for an opportunity to buy ISK.)
OK, that is a serious argument... I will keep Plex as an option B, in case I get a big loss...
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Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2010.12.20 10:56:00 -
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Stop grinding isk with you rooky account, buy a plex and start playing eve. Be proud of what you are doing no matter what other people say. After some month you have enough isk to make a living and you probably are able to play for free, if you are really good in making isk. Its possible, but its up to you if you want to spend your free time in grinding isk or if you want to spend your money in buying a plex. Your decision.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.12.20 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Mara Rinn on 20/12/2010 12:20:30
Originally by: Arkanor Are you implying you can't just buy enough PLEX to have a few billion for a better character?
No.
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