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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:50:00 -
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The big battles would still be there, since the time and the place would be set by timers. I don't think there'd be that big of an effect on those fights, except maybe necessitating more intel gathering.
No, the main sufferers would be those who try to live there, and those who try to roam around killing those who live there. And, of course, those who try to defend those who live there. Except they won't be living there anymore, so there won't be anyone to defend, and there won't be anyone to kill, so there won't be any reason to defend. |
Marconus Orion
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
430
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Posted - 2012.08.15 08:38:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:No, the main sufferers would be those who try to live there, and those who try to roam around killing those who live there. And, of course, those who try to defend those who live there. Except they won't be living there anymore, so there won't be anyone to defend, and there won't be anyone to kill, so there won't be any reason to defend. Bullshit. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.08.15 08:39:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:Lord Zim wrote:No, the main sufferers would be those who try to live there, and those who try to roam around killing those who live there. And, of course, those who try to defend those who live there. Except they won't be living there anymore, so there won't be anyone to defend, and there won't be anyone to kill, so there won't be any reason to defend. Bullshit. Nope. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1270
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:54:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Marconus Orion wrote:Lord Zim wrote:No, the main sufferers would be those who try to live there, and those who try to roam around killing those who live there. And, of course, those who try to defend those who live there. Except they won't be living there anymore, so there won't be anyone to defend, and there won't be anyone to kill, so there won't be any reason to defend. Bullshit. Nope. Let's try it and see. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Sakura Kasenumi
Last Exit For The Lost Dark Therapy
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:58:00 -
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it would have pro's and cons.
Pro: AFK cloaking would be pointless, meaning that you actually hgave to be sat at your computer to have any effect in game. Con: Finding fights would be much much harder. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:42:00 -
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It wouldn't have any real effect on big fleets and sov warfare. Since that is all built around showing up at structures at a set time or camping stations/gates, the lack of local wouldn't have much effect. Also, alliances big enough to field thousands of players could spare a few characters to run probes and watch gates.
It will mean less people living in null. You can make about the same ratting income doing missions in highsec. Or you could make better income in wormholes with less risk than nullsec, because there are no cynos and you can close entrances to your wormhole if you know hostiles are on the other side. Can't close gates in nullsec, and cyno jamming every systems would hinder your own movement.
It won't improve nullsec for the gankers because there will be less targets. Most ratters and miners will leave, and those that stay will be those that can afford to multi-box with scouts, so gankers still won't catch them.
And, as usual, guys like Frying Doom let slip that the main reason they want this is just to hurt specific groups in nullsec that they don't like. Oh, they'll argue that it will improve things. But the facade always falls away at some point when they simply can't contain the glee they feel when actual nullsec dweller complain that this will impair their nullsec activities.
So don't listen to Frying Doom. If removing local depopulates nullsec and forces our grunts to grind highsec missions, he'll consider it a victory. When everyone else here realizes that it didn't make nullsec a better place to visit and had no effect on small alliances getting space, Frying Doom won't care, because this whole thing is just his person vendetta against goons. |
Thomas Orca
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:46:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:
Quoting someone that *ACTUALLY* does think that level 4 missions are comparable to Technetium moons. Not to mention the trillions that null sec alliances make on null sec resources, and ratting. Your not going to win a "we are poor in null sec" argument, try something else.
Hi. I live in null sec. I have made a grand total of a WHOLE 7 million isk from my alliance's vast amount of technetium. I know, you are jealous of my vast wealth. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1487
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:47:00 -
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ask me about my nullsec detorid tech income |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:55:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Quoting someone that *ACTUALLY* does think that level 4 missions are comparable to Technetium moons. Not to mention the trillions that null sec alliances make on null sec resources, and ratting. Your not going to win a "we are poor in null sec" argument, try something else. Oh hey so it turns out I missed this little gem. Listen, you little mongoloid, I haven't said "we're poor in nullsec", I've said "we'll go grind L4s in hisec to a larger degree than we do already".
It is known. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:29:00 -
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I have to agree with Lord Zim. Null will turn into a wasteland. Sure there will be SOV fights with huge fleets still happening, but nobody will LIVE there. Null will turn into a desert. The effort to live in null with no local, will not be compensated by the rewards for doing so. Null alliance members will switch to making a living in highsec and logging in their "alt" when there is a fleet going to contest/defend SOV or a moon.
The only people advocating the removal of local are small gang roamers, who (as was so elegantly put forth earlier) are salivating at the thought of all the carebears they will gank, and those that don't see the implications of what removing local from null will do. Already, the rewards of living in null are few, and only cater to a few individuals, while the rest make a living in highsec and occasionally log in their nullsec PvP alt to do something fun with friends, or defend/contest sov or a money making moon. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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