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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 19/12/2010 18:16:23
Presenting the first in a series of sermons on The Path loyal Amarrians walk in service to God and Empire.
Life is a journey, one that takes years and crosses many bridges, bridges over the valleys and depths that are obstacles and despair. All throughout life The Path is laid out before us. Sometimes the bridges are made of stone, firm, structurally sound, well able to support us... sometimes they are not.
Yet it is in crossing those weak bridges, those bridges that may seem ready to fail at any moment, those bridges that hardly seem capabable of supporting the weight of a true loyal Amarrian, it is then we find our worth as true Amarrian loyalists. For it is when crossing those bridges, when all is at risk, only then in those crossings do we truly find our worth to God and Empire.
Today I come before the loyal of Amarr, the faithful of God, those who fight in the trenches, who build in the factories, who minister to the sick, who provide enlightenment for the slaves, to all of the faithful of Amarr I come today to provide this message.
GOD SEES ALL.
Every step we take in life, every breath we take, every person we meet and every action we take. GOD SEES ALL.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 19/12/2010 18:14:57
The journey of life takes years and despite what one may think there are many opportunities as a loyal Amarrian to diverge from the true path of God. Like forks in the road the opportunties and temptations emerge from around every corner ready to tempt us from our faith, tempt us from our purpose, indeed to tempt us with sin.
Imagine you are walking down the path when you come to a fork just before a river. The path on the right is one of virtue, of faith, it is a difficult path and the bridge that spans the river looks unsturdy and dangerous. The path to the left is easy, a strong bridge sits there yet along the path are sinners, heretics and heathens who would tempt you with false friendship. Enemies of God and Empire who would kill you on the battlefield yet here invite you to accompany them over the bridge.
Which do you choose?
As you go down the path of life whom you walk with is just as important as why you walk. After all God sees all our actions, all our desires, all our dreams and all our hearts. He knows if you are truly sacrificing everything to serve Him and His holy empire. Will you take the path on the right and prove your virtue or will you join the lessors on the path to the left?
I know I will be on the path to the right.
Being an Amarrian loyalist isn't easy yet it is the easiest thing in the universe. A contradiction? Hardly. For to be a true Amarrian loyalist one must simply be fully ready to give all his life to God and Empire. There is no personal desire in blind service. No personal dislike in duty and honor. No reason not to serve if you are truly loyal to God and Empire. Service that includes walking The Path.
I recall a time not long ago when even my own beloved corporation was criticized for flying with militia corporations who may've also had dubious backgrounds. I personally found many of these corporations abhorrent and distasteful and felt them not worthy to carry the banner of Amarr. Yet as a loyal servant of God and Empire it's not my decision to make. The militia is sanctioned by the Amarr government and the Empress. Who am I to question their choice to let various individuals I find of lessor repute into the militia? I am no one but an obedient servant. My personal likes and dislikes really do not matter because my duty is clear.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:15:00 -
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But I certainly didn't go out of my way to associate with the likes of pirates, sinners and heretics outside the duty of the militia. While my obedience demanded cooperation in militia activities I was under no such obligation to actually become friends with these individuals and corporations. Thus is part of walking The Path for God and Empire. It would certainly be easy to join such a group, have people to talk to, share a few drinks and stories and hope they don't stab me in the back. It's hardly fitting though for a true Amarrian loyalist like me to do however.
I must admit being an Amarrian loyalist can be lonely at times. We are not free to change directions whenever blind service and obedience become inconvenient. We are not able to cast aside our morality when we're bored and looking for a "good time". Then again looking at the likes of pirates, heretics and scoundrals infesting the universe these days perhaps being in such select standing is a benefit.
By choosing the path to the right there is stability. There is great benefit in not being known as a hypocrite. Piety and serving The Path are singular objectives in life and really quite simple. When I said being an Amarr loyalist isn't easy what I'm really saying is it isn't easy as long as you are putting your personal desires above your duty. For one whose heart is true and whose duty drives his actions it is quite simple indeed.
I would encourage all Amarrians to consider the path they are walking in life. While certainly the empire can put demands on our own desires and dislikes such as when we fly with militia corporations that are dubious it is clear our desires really matter little when compared to our duty. That cooperation however ends at the end of that militia operation. Likewise (even moreso) any association with pirates, non-militia pilots of lessor repute, terrorists, heathens and heretics and the like are clearly not the sort of thing we should be thinking of doing on a personal level.
After all we must not forget that everything we do, every day we live, every breath we take, we are really walking The Path of life. Whether it's saying our daily prayers or fighting in a militia battle or tucking our children in at night it all is part of the path. Some people we are forced to associate with by doing our duty as in the militia. Others are our choice. Thus all the people we associate with and befriend join us on that path.
So.... God is watching you... who are you walking down the path with?
Archbishop
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:16:00 -
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Yay! He sees all?! Then he certainly can see this:
She holds her hand into the comlink tranceiver, but the gesture is blacked out with a bar by CONCORD censors.
And he sees this!
A few more gestures are blacked out. Finally the whole arm is blacked out, grimaces, parts of her body that…
<…TRANSMISSION STREAM BROKEN…> -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:29:00 -
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Sorry. I got interruped by a CONCORD signal when I just turned around to… whatever. I just got caught by the wonderful idea that GOD could see that and was carried away by the happy impulse that this caused. I didn't want to interrupt or disturb or act respectless in any way.
I'm really sorry, Archbishop. Go on. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire Sorry. I got interruped by a CONCORD signal when I just turned around toà whatever. I just got caught by the wonderful idea that GOD could see that and was carried away by the happy impulse that this caused. I didn't want to interrupt or disturb or act respectless in any way.
I'm really sorry, Archbishop. Go on.
I realize your inferior genetic makeup leads to a loss of impulse control when compared to other races. I would encourage you to seek enlightenment and turn yourself into the SPCS for training to help with these random impulses but knowing your reputation I doubt you'd do such a thing. It is your loss.
Archbishop
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Ji'kahr
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2010.12.20 03:39:00 -
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*Makes the sacred symbol across his chest with his fingers, raises from his kneeling position."
Amen.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 03:46:00 -
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If God did not want us to give in to our desires, why did He give them to us?
We are of the same dust as the common animal, and as such display many of the same carnal behaviors as animals. To deny this is to deny the nature of our Creation.
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Sinjin Mokk
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2010.12.20 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga If God did not want us to give in to our desires, why did He give them to us?
We are of the same dust as the common animal, and as such display many of the same carnal behaviors as animals. To deny this is to deny the nature of our Creation.
To follow the Path is to rise above mere desires of the flesh and serve something better, nobler..
I find it amusing that you still refer to yourself as livestock.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.20 07:43:00 -
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oh in the name of-
sigh......
archbishop, im sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but youre talking to the ignorant masses. the only ones who will listen are those who believe, or Amarrians.
and not many actually believe.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk
To follow the Path is to rise above mere desires of the flesh and serve something better, nobler..
I find it amusing that you still refer to yourself as livestock.
I'm sure it is amusing, given my race.
I'm simply saying that when God first created life, it was simple. To follow the "mere desires of the flesh" is to attempt to go back to those primeval days of Creation, where God saw even the humblest head of livestock and said "It is good".
Rising to serve something nobler is not our place in this universe. We are the Created; why even attempt to try to impersonate the Creator?
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Tiara Demir
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.20 16:34:00 -
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Well, it looks like the caricatures from the entertainment vids have some real-world analogues, after all. You know you are not even inches away from the caricatures we use to whip our gulliable young people into patriotic frenzies?
If your god is watching, sees all and knows all, either the current state of affairs suits him just fine, or else he's not doing a very good job putting that information through to you. To me at least it looks like the hours spend feeling guilty for failing some sky daddy would be better spend making ISK, or working on a new science, or checking the Sansha, or even cuddling up to a loved one. Each of these might make New Eden a better place in the long run.
Contradicting you probably served no purpose other than to vent a little - you'll discard my words as the sound of runaway cattle anyway. But damn, did it feel good.
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.12.20 18:15:00 -
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"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions, 13:21
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Epitoth
Amarr Aerarium Militare Praetoria
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Posted - 2010.12.20 19:14:00 -
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Inspiring.
Your sermons have often been a good read but not often applicable to my own dealings. This one hits hard the truth that nobody is beyond gods sight.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 19:52:00 -
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God sees all..even through all of time. He knows what you'll do before you've done it. So act naturally; this must be the true path.
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Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.12.20 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga God sees all..even through all of time. He knows what you'll do before you've done it. So act naturally; this must be the true path.
I believe the correct theological answer to that is that God knows all possible paths that may be taken and the infinity of choice around a simple action.
Ultimately the choice you make is still your own, and thus the path to salvation or damnation is yours to make.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:03:00 -
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But if God can see all, couldn't he always predict the decision that will be made?
Not to mention the line of thinking that states God "exists" (as much as the word "exists" can be applied to an omnipotent being that transcends existence itself) independently of time.
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Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga But if God can see all, couldn't he always predict the decision that will be made?
Not to mention the line of thinking that states God "exists" (as much as the word "exists" can be applied to an omnipotent being that transcends existence itself) independently of time.
I find this an interesting question, to which I believe there are numerous answers. However I will remind you that we are probing what is ultimately unknowable and thus such questions can only be answered with educated guesses at best.
I personally find the answer resides in the infinity of the universe. As we all know (well, ones with quantum computing degrees at least) that for every state of the universe there are infinite other possible states. This principal is how our quantum computers are able to register multiple digits from a single registry. In so God will know all paths and all outcomes for all of eternity, but in this eternity those paths are open to you.
I know its easy to get hung on the simple road of paths as just described, but the honesty of reality is far more branching and simply trying to weight the consequences of the most mundane actions is beyond the human scope.
So if you agree with my answer or not, just remember that we are limited to understanding the universe though the eyes of a human, a single human at that. Compared to the vastness of the entire universe that is a very limited perspective indeed.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:17:00 -
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Your answer makes sense. In a world with infinite possibilities though, how can one be sure that the path they are on pleases God? How can we not be sure that this version of the universe is one in which the scriptures were mistranslated or otherwise corrupted?
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Conventia Underking
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:27:00 -
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Bows her head in reverence.
May God grant me the power to follow the Righteous Path.
Thank you, Admiral.
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Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:28:00 -
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The short answer, Faith.
The long answer, THIS reality is the only one that matters. Every other realistic is only a mathematical illusion that does exist but cannot exist at the same time. The nature of this is impossible to understand with the limited mind we all share.
Besides, any corruption isn't in the divine text, which faith leads me to believe is the true word of God, but in the people who say they uphold these texts. Not all who say they uphold the word of God truly do, many pervert it in terrible ways. Their justice will come, however. The coldest place in hell is in the maw of the king of darkness whom punishes the traitors and blasphemers for all eternity.
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Nick Bete
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.21 00:02:00 -
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This blind obedience of which you preach sounds no different from the implant-induced obedience of the Sansha. Free will, individualism, personality are all stripped in either case.
The only difference I can see is that Sansha abducts his slaves while you Amarr go willingly to the slave pen; no implants or Vitoc needed. You willingly becomes mindless, obedient zombies for the sake of an invisible supposedly omnipotent and omniscient entity. Amazing. At least we know that Sansha Kuvekei is a real living being, as twisted and monomaniacal as he is; he's flesh and blood that can be poked, prodded, spoken to and (hopefully very soon) killed. You can't say any of those things about your "god".
I truly pity you Amarr and other "loyalists". Willingly giving yourselves to some ancient delusion in the guise of an all-powerful fantasy creature is such a waste. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.21 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Bete This blind obedience of which you preach sounds no different from the implant-induced obedience of the Sansha. Free will, individualism, personality are all stripped in either case.
The only difference I can see is that Sansha abducts his slaves while you Amarr go willingly to the slave pen; no implants or Vitoc needed. You willingly becomes mindless, obedient zombies for the sake of an invisible supposedly omnipotent and omniscient entity. Amazing. At least we know that Sansha Kuvekei is a real living being, as twisted and monomaniacal as he is; he's flesh and blood that can be poked, prodded, spoken to and (hopefully very soon) killed. You can't say any of those things about your "god".
I truly pity you Amarr and other "loyalists". Willingly giving yourselves to some ancient delusion in the guise of an all-powerful fantasy creature is such a waste.
Not all of us discussing theology here are necessarily as you describe. Sometimes discussing theology is an entertaining and enlightening activity; I mean Mr. Goldcore's thoughts above are good examples of abstract thought.
But I suppose I should mention that I'm a Nation loyalist so..you'll probably dismiss everything I've said anyway, because I'm a mindless zombie right?
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Raze Valadeus
Amarr Lonestar Distribution Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.21 11:18:00 -
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Ms. Goldcore,
I would very much like to speak with you sometime soon, if you're willing.
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Sinjin Mokk
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2010.12.21 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga
But I suppose I should mention that I'm a Nation loyalist so..you'll probably dismiss everything I've said anyway, because I'm a mindless zombie right?
Your questions show the true depth of your ignorance.
Normally, i would suggest that you are at the threshold of enlightenment and pray for you to find the path to God. I would caution you that you have but one chance to seek the light of God. But there is no redemption in Nation. there is no soul.
So in a word: yes.
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Marus Sulla
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.12.21 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Marus Sulla on 21/12/2010 15:12:19 ôIt is said that cowardice lurks behind power; that every tyrant ruler fears the day when his subjects learn where the source of real power lies. What better way for an emperor to hide that truth than by claiming the will of deities and threatening divine consequence to those who question it!ö
- ôThe ElderÆs Tomeö, Matari Chronicles
The Amarr religion is a false path to spiritual understanding, stripped bare it is about control, the power of the few over the many.
For those Amarr who seek the truth my comrade Kazzi can guide you to the right path.
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Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.12.21 20:38:00 -
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Why sure Raze, you may contact me in any way you feel appropriate. I do enjoy a good conversation after all.
I wouldn't say that Rek's questions show his ignorance, alot of these concepts are very difficult to understand. Asking the questions shows intelligence, despite his allegence with the nation. Naturally I would have to avoid meeting him in person however, I did just spend 2 months in stain collecting Nation corpses for study of the social structure and nature of the implants to investigate potential weapons. Which I am currently finishing my report on and intend to share when it is concluded.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.21 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Thgil Goldcore Why sure Raze, you may contact me in any way you feel appropriate. I do enjoy a good conversation after all.
I wouldn't say that Rek's questions show his ignorance, alot of these concepts are very difficult to understand. Asking the questions shows intelligence, despite his allegence with the nation. Naturally I would have to avoid meeting him in person however, I did just spend 2 months in stain collecting Nation corpses for study of the social structure and nature of the implants to investigate potential weapons. Which I am currently finishing my report on and intend to share when it is concluded.
I ask the questions mostly because as a child I attended the Ammatar Church and never got to learn much about The Faith (and what little I did I learned on my own later as a capsuleer, which lead me to Sani Sabik).
As far as my allegiances go, yeah they're odd. If I saw you scooping up Nation corpses I would probably not like it but then I probably wouldn't recklessly blow you (and your crew) up over it either. It's a complicated thing, you know?
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Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:11:00 -
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likely blow me up for making the said corpses I recover however. I don't exactly ask politely when I bomb a Nightmare for their bodies.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Thgil Goldcore likely blow me up for making the said corpses I recover however. I don't exactly ask politely when I bomb a Nightmare for their bodies.
Well yeah, if that's the case.
The most elegant solution would be to use ECM to prevent you from destroying the Nation ship in the first place. That way minimal loss of life could be achieved.
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