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Lord Evangelian
Gallente The White Mantle
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:44:00 -
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I would like to solidly state that I am not quitting EVE Online. The events that have unfolded this weekend have resulted in quite a lot of sweat and tears on my part. I would like you all to picture a situation that could happen to any of you, at anytime, with any hobby or interest that you may pursue. For some, they enjoy listening to music at concerts, drinking alcohol with friends, or playing sport. For me, (and a lot of you), that hobby is playing computer games. As with all things we do, we must indulge moderately in these activities.
Two weeks ago, a documentary was aired in the UK (Panorama), highlighting computer game addiction. They spotlight stories of people playing computer games for upwards of 25-7 hours play in one sitting; often not eating, sleeping or socialising. After seeing this documentary, a friend of mine, with whom I recently met two days ago, gave me his personal diagnosis, stating that I was in fact addicted to EVE online. The documentary was in his thoughts when he had met with me, so when I said ôI play online gamesö, he associated me with the online gamer addicts that he had seen on the documentary prior to our meeting. Credit to him trying to help me, this ôcrazed addictö.
With in seconds he marched me home and proceeded to delete all of my games including, Guild Wars, Black and White and Overlord (lol, not even an online game). The finale, was him writing a letter to post on the forum and to my ôGuildö (as he put it), to try to save you, suggesting that you will quit following my example, and words of wisdom. Someone has already stated to me ôWhy did you not just kick him in the face, its your flat, your computer...?ö. That is a fair point, but please believe me, looking back in retrospect, I would not do things any differently.
As I said before, picture a group of people saying to you that you are crazy, or on a self destruct path (momentarily side tracking from eve), and they forcibly try to restrain or solve your ôproblemö The worst thing you can do, is react aggressively. That would incriminate you further. I suppose to some extent, I believed him, otherwise I would not have co-operated so readily. But, that in mind, would an addict so readily give up there ôaddictionö, or so rationally understand why they should not less? I just thought I would post this to explain the dramatic mails, and posts that have been floating around from my character(s) in game.
Thank you for reading
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TL;DR: I am not quitting EVE, I was forced to write some stuff on the forum, I have resolved the issues, see you all soon with more forumhaoring... Thats why you cannot have my stuffs...
The White Mantle | Change is coming! |
000Hunter000
Gallente Industrial Exploits The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:48:00 -
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U really really just should have told him to go F himself... Now it's time to find new friends and stop this madness.
Or u could just go online and play a lil EVE ________________________________________________
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Konoch
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 ...
U really really just should have told him to go F himself... Now it's time to find new friends and stop this madness.
Or u could just go online and play a lil EVE
I hope it involves criminal charges.
Sorry to see this happen to people. Unfortunately those who arent gamers cant and in many cases DONT WANT TO differentiate between the truly addicted and those who just love what they're playing.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 19/12/2010 19:51:47
[..........................I.] Forum Attention ***** Meter.
MY GOD, it is off the charts on this one.
Anyway just manage your time better. I play one game(This one), I do not pay with Plex or purchase them, so my time is my own. I can be as casual or as intense as I want and I do not play everyday.
But when I log on it is to have fun. I am not trying to be the best or important, just meet my next small goal I set for my self.
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Originally by: NoNah I'm afraid you can't really expect a decent answer as the new generation of posters arrived. Alara and her merry crew just isn't that interested in anything constructive.
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Ragnar256
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:52:00 -
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Mt parents think I am addicted, but in all honesty, half the time I spend on the computer is dedicated to foruming. Also, compared to me, 24/7 is a crazy amount of time, but I won't tell them how to live.
Your friend has good intentions, however, he nor anyone should force you to change your current ways. It is your life, live it the way you see fit.
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:54:00 -
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Pod him.
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Opertone
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:55:00 -
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games are meant to have fun... if you play 24 hours a day, you desperately lack something, that your mind tries to compensate... which can be respect, wealth, exploration, socializing, mating and feeling important
meet a sex partner, get more money, get more spare time, change something that you are missing.
EvE is a brilliant game, not a source of addiction - (to be honest the game is boring, but the community is great)
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:01:00 -
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I would be rather mad if someone did that to me, but mostly because I download most of the games I play (none of them online games, except for Eve, mind you) through Steam, instead of just buying them off the shelves at a store. It takes a few hours to download some of the games that I have. I do not like having to spend those hours all over again just downloading the games, but that's just me.
Eve seems to be designed, imo, to not encourage the type of online gaming that is self-destructive. At most, I play Eve for maybe a half an hour to an hour a day. At the least, I don't play Eve at all on a given day. This is because most of my time is spent waiting for sell orders to sell out or my PI structure to finish harvesting or my skills to train up. That's just me, though, of course, but what I'm pointing out is that this game takes away a portion of the aspects of the online game that makes so many crazed addicts out of WoW and other online games. I guess that's why I like Eve...
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:07:00 -
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Just thank the heavens that he did not see something about eating disorders - He might have forced you to stop eating.
Now in return you should try to get some material about people believing in obscure and false information on TV and help him overcome this problem in a similar manner (iow. throw his TV out the window)
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Pookie McPook
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:13:00 -
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I suggest you work with the Twelve Step Program. -----
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:22:00 -
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Failure, everywhere, everywhere. -
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Keta Fraal
Nul and Booleans
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:46:00 -
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I just want to confirm that your reaction to his behavior is proof you are not an addict. I would only say it's an addiction if it affects your "normal" judgment.
I would liken his behavior to that of a friend who tries to break-up a relationship out of jealousy.
Just be thankful he didn't give me all your stuff. (by the way, have him contact me in game) --------------------------------------- Completely ignore any whining that is not toilet orientated. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:56:00 -
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My personal opinion is that there is no such thing as "games addiction". Sure, I was playing EVE for hours in a day for weeks, but then again I'm working 8-10 hours a day too and it doesn't make me addicted to work.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pookie McPook I suggest you work with the Twelve Step Program.
Lets ee how this would go.
Advocate: Step 1, give yourself to a Higher Power. Which Religion do you follow?
Lord Evangelian: The Amarrian Religion.
Advocate: **** this will take some time.
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Originally by: NoNah I'm afraid you can't really expect a decent answer as the new generation of posters arrived. Alara and her merry crew just isn't that interested in anything constructive.
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Macing Malts
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik My personal opinion is that there is no such thing as "games addiction". Sure, I was playing EVE for hours in a day for weeks, but then again I'm working 8-10 hours a day too and it doesn't make me addicted to work.
TouchT.
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Tayonas
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:15:00 -
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Dunno ... Just watched it on BBC iPlayer.
Im not sure about the whole 'lacking' or 'needing' that someone mentioned. Im 34 now and have been a gamer since I got my Aquarius and then moved onto my Atari 2600 eons ago. I still regularly game for sessions of 18hrs or more. I used to game sometimes for over 72hrs, especially when the going was good in Entropia. Before that it was Age of Empires Age of Kings. Before and after that CnC.
I think it is more or less the result of a bored mind and a bit of OCD, in my case at least. I dont work ATM and when I did work I gamed a few hours most nights, but I also left all my clans etc. because I wouldnt be on everyday. Now I switch between gaming and learning new stuff. The latest would be I learned to solder and bought a crapload of electronics parts and am building circuits that use MPU's.
I have 2 kids, both have a DS, against my wishes I might add. There are 3 PC's and a server in the house as well as a 360, a PS3 and ... a Wii (ugh). But they dont have anything like that in their room and their time on the NDS is limited.
But I dont see how the ones in that programme are as bad as they are. I havent missed work or college because of gaming. If something is needed done in the house with regards to anything I simply stop to do it. Lost a couple of Hyperion's due to that actually But on Panorama there are people that have failed uni, lost jobs and killed their kids. I dont see how if I game as much as I do and can stop playing to get important stuff done they can't.
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Vardec Crom
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire Pod him.
lol
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Reediculouhs
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:26:00 -
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The only true friends are:
A friend with weed, is a friend indeed!
Remember that and you shall never experience things like this again!
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian With in seconds he marched me home and proceeded to delete all of my games including, Guild Wars, Black and White and Overlord (lol, not even an online game).
How the hell did he get access to your computer? Or did you just let him log in and wipe your drive... because of?
I call troll. ___________
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Matthias Howe
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:30:00 -
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He went on your computer and deleted your games? Um, really? Look, he may have had good intentions but that would warrant a boot up the ass in my book. Is this an English custom I am unfamiliar with? Go on your friends computer without permission and delete the software?
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Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:36:00 -
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When you made that post yesterday about having to quit over a woman I thought you were already a sad little attention whore but this really proves it.
No one cares. Go play the game instead of trying to drag us all into your pathetic, sad, grubby little life. .
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 19/12/2010 21:42:47
Originally by: Reediculouhs A friend with weed, is a friend indeed!
A friend who'll tease is better :)
@OP, if any friend of mine barged into my home and deleted my games because of some self-righteous BS, I would punch him several times in the face, then he would no longer be my friend. Kudos to you for your more...restrained approach.
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ILikeMarkets
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:50:00 -
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So...
You let some dude you knew for 2 days who obviously holds no medical (in any way, shape, or form) degree and has had no such training "diagnose" you with an addiction based on information he got from a documentary. At this point, you allowed this madman to "march" you to your own home and ravage your machine, deleting your games, contacting people that you know and telling you that your hobby is destructive.
First off all, your "friend" has issues. I would stay away from him.
Originally by: Lord Evangelian As I said before, picture a group of people saying to you that you are crazy, or on a self destruct path (momentarily side tracking from eve), and they forcibly try to restrain or solve your ôproblemö The worst thing you can do, is react aggressively. That would incriminate you further. I suppose to some extent, I believed him, otherwise I would not have co-operated so readily. But, that in mind, would an addict so readily give up there ôaddictionö, or so rationally understand why they should not less? I just thought I would post this to explain the dramatic mails, and posts that have been floating around from my character(s) in game.
This is called manipulation, and it is something that people do a lot in these circumstances. They decide that what you are doing is a "waste of time" and accuse you of being "addicted". If you agree to do what they tell you to do and completely give up your hobby purely because they want you to, and no other reason, they will tell you that you are on the path to redemption. If you refuse to give up your hobby purely because they want you to, and no other reason, they will accuse you of being addicted and try to make your life a living hell. Yea, that sounds like a healthy friendship/relationship to me.
tl;dr: Run for the ****ing hill, dude. That guy is NUTS.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:58:00 -
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This is a total scam! I'm not sure how, or what you get out of this, but there's two explanations for these threads .. you're a nutter or it's a scam. As this is EVE I am going with scam. Watch out people, check your wallets and hangars, who knows what has gone missing?
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:59:00 -
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1) Who are you? 2) Why are you and your friend so easily 'led' by a TV program, in your case 'fooled by a fool'? 3) I suggest you and your friend avoid all forms of media as you both might be convinced to join some horrible social movement/club/cabal and do terrible things.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |
De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:02:00 -
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This is the kind of story that makes me glad I don't have any friends. --Vel
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:07:00 -
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Is the friend that new girl friend of yours?
"http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1433369"
The Real Space Initiative - V7
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:08:00 -
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I too am addicted to EvE.
However, I do eat, sleep, shower and have even been known to socialise a few times each year (usually when it's sunny outside).
Also, if one of my "friends" marched me home and started messing with my PC I would smack him repeatedly in the face with my fist until he stopped.
Just saying.
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justin666
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:12:00 -
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your a addict intil it gets in the way of your work, girlfriend, social life and family
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Vertisce Soritenshi
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:14:00 -
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So let me get this right...
The OP is so weak minded that he lets his weak minded friend that he has only known for 2 days delete all his games and use his characters to make posts online preaching to other people?
****ing stupid. Gaming is a hobby...I also play Paintball and go camping and offroading in my Jeep. Gaming is by far the cheapest and easiest of all three to do especially in winter or when the weather outside is bad. I have friends that game...I go to LAN parties and socialize. Gaming kept me off drugs and alcohol. I on average probably game about 5 hours a day while I am watching TV or doing other stuff online.
Even if I am addicted I am happy to be so and my life is perfectly fine the way it is. Nobody can make me believe otherwise.
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