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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.12.24 15:33:00 -
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.Net 4.0 offline installer is <50MB. |
laksmi2
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Posted - 2010.12.30 11:24:00 -
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could u please find a way to include blueprints that have no bpo into the blueprint category? jf, bo, hi come to mind. they can be built.
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Kithran
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Posted - 2010.12.30 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: laksmi2 could u please find a way to include blueprints that have no bpo into the blueprint category? jf, bo, hi come to mind. they can be built.
They are there already.
Various Non Market tree on blueprint page/
Kithran
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Omira Tan
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Posted - 2010.12.30 20:23:00 -
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When will the real release (not candidate) of EVEMON come?
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:01:00 -
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Speaking as a Linux user, I am significantly disappointed that you are moving to .Net 4.0. As a result, your application no longer works under Wine, and I can no longer use the application.
I would think you would at least put out a post-learning skill version so that we weren't left completely high and dry.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.31 12:10:00 -
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Hmmm .Net 4
*self harms*
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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2010.12.31 19:36:00 -
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We are currently looking into making EVEMon Mono compatible.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2011.01.02 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Swidgen on 02/01/2011 00:37:46
No Thanks on .NET 4.0 checking in.
What's the reason for this? If it's because EVEMon actually uses some new and cool feature of .NET 4.0, that's one thing. But it's another thing entirely if the developers are forcing everyone else to install .NET 4.0 because VS Express 2010 mandates its use.
Ultimately the blame lies with Microsoft for releasing new .NET and Visual Studio versions every year whose only purpose is to lock in developers and users. Please, guys, don't force us to install more stuff we don't really need unless there's a good reason for it. |
Tashia Rizti
KIITH S0BAN
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Posted - 2011.01.03 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Swidgen Edited by: Swidgen on 02/01/2011 00:37:46
No Thanks on .NET 4.0 checking in.
What's the reason for this? If it's because EVEMon actually uses some new and cool feature of .NET 4.0, that's one thing. But it's another thing entirely if the developers are forcing everyone else to install .NET 4.0 because VS Express 2010 mandates its use.
Ultimately the blame lies with Microsoft for releasing new .NET and Visual Studio versions every year whose only purpose is to lock in developers and users. Please, guys, don't force us to install more stuff we don't really need unless there's a good reason for it.
I cannot talk for EveMon, but since .net 2.0 and VS 2005, you can choose your "Target Framework" VS2010 still lets you work with 2.0, 3.0, 3.5, and 4.0 in one environment. Due to compile changes between .net 1.0/1.1 and 2.0, thatÆs why 1.0/1.1 isnÆt supported. Also, upgrading a framework isnÆt such a big deal, itÆs not like it runs æall the timeÆ, and is only accessed when needed by applications at runtime.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.01.04 08:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aamrr on 04/01/2011 08:15:41
Originally by: Tashia Rizti
Originally by: Swidgen Edited by: Swidgen on 02/01/2011 00:37:46
No Thanks on .NET 4.0 checking in.
What's the reason for this? If it's because EVEMon actually uses some new and cool feature of .NET 4.0, that's one thing. But it's another thing entirely if the developers are forcing everyone else to install .NET 4.0 because VS Express 2010 mandates its use.
Ultimately the blame lies with Microsoft for releasing new .NET and Visual Studio versions every year whose only purpose is to lock in developers and users. Please, guys, don't force us to install more stuff we don't really need unless there's a good reason for it.
I cannot talk for EveMon, but since .net 2.0 and VS 2005, you can choose your "Target Framework" VS2010 still lets you work with 2.0, 3.0, 3.5, and 4.0 in one environment. Due to compile changes between .net 1.0/1.1 and 2.0, thatÆs why 1.0/1.1 isnÆt supported. Also, upgrading a framework isnÆt such a big deal, itÆs not like it runs æall the timeÆ, and is only accessed when needed by applications at runtime.
Except that, as pointed out, this makes the application inaccessible for a not insignificant number of users. Still, it is a significant relief to see mono support in the works.
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2011.01.05 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Daneel Trevize .Net 4.0 offline installer is <50MB.
Yeah. This.
Sorry Evemon devs but your great update is DOA for me with this Net 4.0 crap. Guess I¦ll have to live with non functioning remap points missing skills and the old <1.6 Mill skill point alt madness. Meh, it¦s doable. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Trocent
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.01.08 19:33:00 -
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Yeah. .net is out of the question for me. I refuse to use something that microsoft (or any other company forces on us. It wouldn't be difficult for the libraries and essential files to be included into an application build but they require you to install .net framework separately.
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Worgen Fratmon
Minmatar Instapop Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.10 11:33:00 -
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Looks like its time for a Java version... Wish I knew Java.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.10 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trocent Yeah. .net is out of the question for me. I refuse to use something that microsoft (or any other company forces on us. It wouldn't be difficult for the libraries and essential files to be included into an application build but they require you to install .net framework separately.
You really should uninstall DirectX then, I mean it is pure Microsoft evilness right there.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.11 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Trocent Yeah. .net is out of the question for me. I refuse to use something that microsoft (or any other company forces on us. It wouldn't be difficult for the libraries and essential files to be included into an application build but they require you to install .net framework separately.
You really should uninstall DirectX then, I mean it is pure Microsoft evilness right there.
Just wait untill EvE gets to be DX10/DX11....then the minority of linux users will whine like they had a +5% market cap ;) ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character... |
Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.01.11 18:14:00 -
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Wine runs DX10 & 11 better than XP ever will... |
Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:31:00 -
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Any news? Looking to get an alt going from scratch and obviously the old (current) version with the rookie learning speed increase and wrong attibutes isn't suitable. But neither is my techno-competency when it comes to running "almost-ready" programs that may need altering.
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Scetrov
Gallente Gallente Textiles and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:21:00 -
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Received an e-mail from Vehlin today. He was unexpectedly called away, however he has returned and will be issuing a new release candidate as soon as time allows.
EVEMon has been a .NET 2 app for a long time, missing out on the new APIs and some of the language features from .NET 3, 3.5, 4 and C#3 and 4.
Tools such as LinqBridge and clever utilization of VS2008's multi-targeting features have given us access to up-to-date IDEs without changing our dependency on .NET 2. However the switch to VS2010/.NET 2.0 projects gave rise to some unusual designer bugs that were hampering development and sucking up the precious little time I had.
The final straw was one of our major contributors had access to VS2010 + CodeRush but only VS2008 Express. In my mind the move to VS2010/.NET 4 is a sensible one, more contributors had access to the software to improve their productivity and the future of has access to improved APIs and new technologies.
I am sorry to those who are unwilling to install .NET 4, and I hope you have enjoyed using EVEMon while it has been on the .NET 2.0 platform.
To Linux and Mac users, we have made attempts to provide compatibility for non Windows users, however EVEMon was and is a Windows application.. I have spent some time working on Mono compatibility (both from a compiler standpoint and a runtime standpoint) and will continue to do so as time allows.
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Scetrov The final straw was one of our major contributors had access to VS2010 + CodeRush but only VS2008 Express. In my mind the move to VS2010/.NET 4 is a sensible one, more contributors had access to the software to improve their productivity and the future of has access to improved APIs and new technologies.
I am sorry to those who are unwilling to install .NET 4, and I hope you have enjoyed using EVEMon while it has been on the .NET 2.0 platform.
It's sad that so many people buy into the fiction that every new MS dev suite "improves productivity". If VS 2010 causes "unusual designer bugs" with older code then I would classify it as a piece of **** that destroys my productivity, not something that improves it.
Thanks for the work through .NET 2.0, though, it was fun while it lasted. |
Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Scetrov Received an e-mail from Vehlin today. He was unexpectedly called away, however he has returned and will be issuing a new release candidate as soon as time allows.
EVEMon has been a .NET 2 app for a long time, missing out on the new APIs and some of the language features from .NET 3, 3.5, 4 and C#3 and 4.
Tools such as LinqBridge and clever utilization of VS2008's multi-targeting features have given us access to up-to-date IDEs without changing our dependency on .NET 2. However the switch to VS2010/.NET 2.0 projects gave rise to some unusual designer bugs that were hampering development and sucking up the precious little time I had.
The final straw was one of our major contributors had access to VS2010 + CodeRush but only VS2008 Express. In my mind the move to VS2010/.NET 4 is a sensible one, more contributors had access to the software to improve their productivity and the future of has access to improved APIs and new technologies.
I am sorry to those who are unwilling to install .NET 4, and I hope you have enjoyed using EVEMon while it has been on the .NET 2.0 platform.
To Linux and Mac users, we have made attempts to provide compatibility for non Windows users, however EVEMon was and is a Windows application.. I have spent some time working on Mono compatibility (both from a compiler standpoint and a runtime standpoint) and will continue to do so as time allows.
I already have .NET 4 installed for various other reasons. So, I'm totally fine with it (as long as it doesn't try to mess up my current .NET 4 install, like trying to copy not-up-to-date files over it).
Me? I just like to see EVEMON released. It's been a great while now since the removal of the learning skills. And a long-term plan really slows EVEMON down now, as it frantically keeps (calculating and) suggesting I train learning skills first. With the advent of Incursion 1.0.3 tomorrow, I fear a new official release will take even longer.
I'm not complaining, though. EVEMON has been an essential tool for me all along. I'd just like to start using a new official release (not a RC) any time in the foreseeable future. :) --
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 09:21:00 -
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I read there are going to be changes to the API as well. If it takes the EVEMON developers also more than a month to incorporate those, then we might be looking at the end of EVEMON. :(
And sadly there are no alternatives for it yet. Getting a mite worried here. --
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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei I read there are going to be changes to the API as well. If it takes the EVEMON developers also more than a month to incorporate those, then we might be looking at the end of EVEMON. :(
And sadly there are no alternatives for it yet. Getting a mite worried here.
As long as I am around, this won't happen as I'm constantly pocking the Lead Dev about it.
In a previous post of mine, I mentioned that a new release of EVEMon would be much likely happen, after CCP had finished the deployment of the Incursion expansion (blame it on the boogy ).
After all, changes have been made to the DB again for this patch, so we have to wait for the SDD in order to sync EVEMon with those changes.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Desmont McCallock
Originally by: Ranka Mei I read there are going to be changes to the API as well. If it takes the EVEMON developers also more than a month to incorporate those, then we might be looking at the end of EVEMON. :(
And sadly there are no alternatives for it yet. Getting a mite worried here.
As long as I am around, this won't happen as I'm constantly pocking the Lead Dev about it.
In a previous post of mine, I mentioned that a new release of EVEMon would be much likely happen, after CCP had finished the deployment of the Incursion expansion (blame it on the boogy ).
After all, changes have been made to the DB again for this patch, so we have to wait for the SDD in order to sync EVEMon with those changes.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team
Thank you kindly for the reassurement. EVEMON, like cap, is life. :) Couldn't imagine being without it.
And thank you, and the entire dev team, for all the hard work! --
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Scetrov
Gallente Gallente Textiles and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.01.18 21:41:00 -
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Based upon the patch notes, none of the changes to the API will effect EVEMon's existing functionality.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:40:00 -
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Where are the portraits downloaded from in EVEMon as they still show the old ones?
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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana Where are the portraits downloaded from in EVEMon as they still show the old ones?
There is nothing you can do about it atm as the web address for the portraits has changed and EVEMon needs to be adjusted to reflect that.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team
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Worgen Fratmon
Minmatar Instapop Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.20 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei
And sadly there are no alternatives for it yet. Getting a mite worried here.
Actually there is. Its not as easy to use as EVEmon, but it dost of the same things. Granted it is not a stand alone program, but a plug in for EVEHQ.
I prefer EVEmon. I love the virtual server function, but downloading a 50+ meg library suit for a relatively small program is ridiculous.
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.22 02:45:00 -
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It's been stuck at "release candidate" for a month now - anything on the horizon?
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Oishii Ne
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Posted - 2011.01.22 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tyburn Stannis It's been stuck at "release candidate" for a month now - anything on the horizon?
^^ This.
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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:15:00 -
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A workaround on how to update EVEMon with your new character portrait can be found here.
On behalf of The EVEMon Dev Team |
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