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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 17:42:00 -
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From all the talk in SYNEPUBLIC (roleplayers) and SANSHA REPUBLIC (NON-RPS's)
High up members of these channels are stating that they are getting information DIRECTLY from CCP regarding dates and times and places of the live event incursion and are being told to keep it quiet as not to alter their Planned time line. The thing is when you get a message saying that you are expecting an incursion from these channels in the next 48hrs and you should sit and wate for it to happen.
Now because of this lack of communication, people are getting wound up and are leaving, which i'm sure isn't a good way to start the new patch and to get people to join in with your events.
So how about a little more info to the general public rather than to the one or two people who seem to be either getting all the Intel or making CCP look like they are back helping players secretly siding with certain players and making them more aware of upcoming events |
Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.21 17:52:00 -
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when Incursion goes live it will be a different format than the live events are now, as whole constellations will be getting attacked and it will involve everyone in those constellations, not just those on a particular mailing list or in local.
calm down. at least wait for it to go live before complaining. .
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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 17:54:00 -
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You have misunderstood my meaning sir, i am talking about the Live Incursion Event that are happening on TQ now. I am aware of the Format of incursions with the patch in Jan.
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth From all the talk in SYNEPUBLIC (roleplayers) and SANSHA REPUBLIC (NON-RPS's)
High up members of these channels are stating that they are getting information DIRECTLY from CCP regarding dates and times and places of the live event incursion and are being told to keep it quiet as not to alter their Planned time line. The thing is when you get a message saying that you are expecting an incursion from these channels in the next 48hrs and you should sit and wate for it to happen.
Now because of this lack of communication, people are getting wound up and are leaving, which i'm sure isn't a good way to start the new patch and to get people to join in with your events.
So how about a little more info to the general public rather than to the one or two people who seem to be either getting all the Intel or making CCP look like they are back helping players secretly siding with certain players and making them more aware of upcoming events
I'm pretty sure that CCP have never directly told "one of the higher ups" the times and dates of the coming attacks. The recent-ish attacks that we did have warning about were from looking at the Intel Nodes on the ihavereturned website. The intel on this site is available to anyone who seeks it. We're just lucky enough to have enough people around that it's likely that one of them will crack it. And when they do crack it (and they will), we can get the message out to people.
I would also like to see a quote from one of these "higher ups" saying that we are getting direct Intel straight from CCP. Grand Admiral, Fleet Coordination Coalition |
Cailais
Amarr Random Pirate's
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:09:00 -
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There are twitter alerts indicating Sansha attacks, although I dont believe they're 48hrs in advance.
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:14:00 -
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I believe these two comments from my chat logs shall confirm my OP Grideris
[ 2010.12.21 17:19:38 ] Tao Zun > Isnt my fault CCP is slow to respond to response mails
[ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. Ill come out and say Im workin with CCP on this one
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Akrasjel Lanate
Gallente Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth I believe these two comments from my chat logs shall confirm my OP Grideris
[ 2010.12.21 17:19:38 ] Tao Zun > Isnt my fault CCP is slow to respond to response mails
[ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. Ill come out and say Im workin with CCP on this one
Yes, but thats from Sansa Retaliation, i didnt say NO ONE saying such things on Synepublic.
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Kraal Jarik
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth I believe these two comments from my chat logs shall confirm my OP Grideris
[ 2010.12.21 17:19:38 ] Tao Zun > Isnt my fault CCP is slow to respond to response mails
[ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. Ill come out and say Im workin with CCP on this one
I've got a really awesome bridge in Brooklyn that I'm selling, cheap. Mail me in-game.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth I believe these two comments from my chat logs shall confirm my OP Grideris
[ 2010.12.21 17:19:38 ] Tao Zun > Hi! I'm quitting the game and have eleventy billion isk to give away. [ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > I will triple any amount of isk you send me and return it to your wallet.
This is about as believable as your logs.
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Ghost Hunter
True Slave Foundations
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:38:00 -
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"The channel Sansha Republic does not exist, do you want to create it?"
Is that so~
Anyway. While the OP is most likely troll bait, I bite it gladly.
The Live Events team have in the past contacted certain individuals for specific tasks. This is a given function, and it will always exist. What relevancy it has to the overall storyline is uncertain depending on what part they play. It may be storyline critical, it may not be. It is entirely subject to the Live Events teams' decision to involve what range of players. Do they want a specialist group, do they want a lumbering hoard, so on.
If you suspect foul play with the Live Events team, contact Internal Affairs and raise your concerns. I am not certain if they lord over the storyline consistency itself or simply the in-game item proliferation part, one of them will have to answer that. It is the best way to go about insuring the Live Events team is operating at an honest level. Otherwise, they're following their own set design for the events and they can do it as they pleaseÖ. ______
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth I believe these two comments from my chat logs shall confirm my OP Grideris
[ 2010.12.21 17:19:38 ] Tao Zun > I shot the sheriff
[ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. But I didn't shoot the deputy
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Kraal Jarik
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: War Kitten
Originally by: Eve Truth I believe these two comments from my chat logs shall confirm my OP Grideris
[ 2010.12.21 17:19:38 ] Tao Zun > I shot the sheriff
[ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. But I didn't shoot the deputy
Ohh, I remember this game!
Great old fart reference. :) Props.
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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:44:00 -
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First of my OP is wrong and I apologise for that. This intel came from Sansha Retaliation
My chat logs are correct and here is a extract from the area before and after the largest bit of intel. Anyone in the Sansha Retaliation Chanel will be able to confirm their correctness.
[ 2010.12.21 17:22:20 ] Tao Zun > Clear comms [ 2010.12.21 17:22:20 ] Myrandor Magita > Its called SLEEP.... [ 2010.12.21 17:22:33 ] Tao Zun > Ill say a few obvious things [ 2010.12.21 17:22:58 ] Tao Zun > 1. If youve been around since the begin or find someone who has youll see theres a bundle of hints to what will happen [ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. Ill come out and say Im workin with CCP on this one [ 2010.12.21 17:23:30 ] Danbar Roth > why not just say something rather than messing about and having us sitting on egg shels all night only for the op to not happen [ 2010.12.21 17:23:45 ] Tao Zun > 3. I said in the next couple days [ 2010.12.21 17:23:50 ] Tex Walker > its like a cheap stand up ghost whisperer... one day, you will die! when? oh, eventually...
The reasons i just picked out the lines rather than linking the whole logs is simple, its a massive wall of text and the majority of it is irrelevant.
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Tao Zun
The Roaches
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:45:00 -
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The time table of 48hrs was NEVER mentioned. If its isn't known I wont be post false hopes. Also to let everyone know this is more than likely an alt of character Calathea Sata, who has been banned twice now for raging (one instance involved calling everyone a moron in channel) in the Sansha retaliation channel. Which after talking with the player I accepted the apology and allowed back into the channel.
Yes the truth of the matter is I AM trying to work with ccp on arranging an operation that'd be fun for members of the EVE community.
But due to one persons lack of patience and selfish want for information I am being attacked now and accused of lieing about trying to make the Incursion experience (which has been dry lately) a little more interesting for those of us who wait for these things to happen. Which is why I did warn all players to be ready, but as of when or if this would take place for sure i explained that its all still unkown as I dont want to lie to my members and not provide what I promised
I don't know what i did to deserve being attacked like this and have my reputation be put on the line as an honest person. I wouldn't gain anything if I was lying to all of you and as far as I see it I would lose more than my Eve Career could handle.
But as it seems that my attempt to try and help the Incursion community in anyway i could has been a poor choice. So If anyone thinks I shouldn't try to voice our opinion, the players opinion, on what we would like to see in any way or in any facet; Please let me know that I am doing a poor job and I will close Sansha Retaliation and take my leave from the Incursion community.
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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:49:00 -
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So are you Confirming that you are working with ccp on the live events?
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Fkn Arson
0ne Percent.
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth So are you Confirming that you are working with ccp on the live events?
If you look for something hard enough, your mind may just make you think you have found it.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.21 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth So are you Confirming that you are working with ccp on the live events?
Originally by: Tao Zun Yes the truth of the matter is I AM trying to work with ccp on arranging an operation that'd be fun for members of the EVE community.
Bolded and underlined the important part.
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CCP Headfirst
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:14:00 -
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The time, location, and composition of Sansha live events have always been public and have never been given out to select individuals or small groups of players by CCP employees.
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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:19:00 -
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Thank you CCP for you clarification on this matter.
So The eve-mails and information Tao Zun has put out today about him working alongside ccp and that he has intel on a pending attack over the next few days is all false.
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Matthias Howe
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Grideris Edited by: Grideris on 21/12/2010 18:07:16
Originally by: Eve Truth From all the talk in SYNEPUBLIC (roleplayers) and SANSHA REPUBLIC (NON-RPS's)
High up members of these channels are stating that they are getting information DIRECTLY from CCP regarding dates and times and places of the live event incursion and are being told to keep it quiet as not to alter their Planned time line. The thing is when you get a message saying that you are expecting an incursion from these channels in the next 48hrs and you should sit and wate for it to happen.
Now because of this lack of communication, people are getting wound up and are leaving, which i'm sure isn't a good way to start the new patch and to get people to join in with your events.
So how about a little more info to the general public rather than to the one or two people who seem to be either getting all the Intel or making CCP look like they are back helping players secretly siding with certain players and making them more aware of upcoming events
I'm pretty sure that CCP have never directly told "one of the higher ups" the times and dates of the coming attacks. The recent-ish attacks that we did have warning about were from looking at the Intel Nodes on the ihavereturned website. The intel on this site is available to anyone who seeks it. We're just lucky enough to have enough people around that it's likely that one of them will crack it. And when they do crack it (and they will), we can get the message out to people.
I would also like to see a quote from one of these "higher ups" saying that we are getting direct intel straight from CCP.
EDIT: Well, as far as the intel nodes go, seems when they re-did the site they took out the flash object that had the links to the nodes themselves. You can still access them, you just have to type the URL yourself. Should be http://ihavereturned.com/##.html, with ## being 01 through 09 (link goes to the first node). We're hoping that node 10 will come online soon, but we have no idea when that will happen if it even happens.
I don't react on something with no viable proof, but this is exactly something CCP would do. Do you not remember the scandals but a few years back? I wasn't even playing and I read about them.
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Eve Truth
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:28:00 -
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Thank you again CCP and this thread can now be closed
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deathforu
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: deathforu on 21/12/2010 19:35:35 Eve Truth i have only two things to say to you. First, its Sansha Retaliation not Sansha Republic. Second, Tao has never once claimed to be working for CCP. Third, if your going to post only a part of the convo then you better have more than what you showed. I was in that room on that day. Tao said that he was trying to work with CCP to set up an event inside sansha space and in no way did he ever mention that he was working for CCP on anything else. Now its no secret that SYNEPUBLIC and other RP channels have downed the Sansha Retaliation channel cause we are not roleplayer's, but just your normal average pvp or pve player who wants to join in on the fun but don't want to deal with the rp that your channels like to do. I was excited to see the new expansion come out but when i tried to join the SYNEPUBLIC channel, i was treated like crap cause i wasn't a roleplayer and therefore was beneath you. i'm sure i'm not the only player who has dealt with your kind. so those of us that just want to pew pew decided to form our own NON-RP channel to where those of us that just want to have fun and no bull can come and play. we don't down you or attack you in the forums but you and your kind seem to think that we are a threat and hey, that's cool too! but understand and know this. every time there is an incursion and every time that we are there know that we will do two things. one, help in any way that we can and two, give grats to everyone that battled then rep and lend assistance to whoever needs it. Oh, and one more small thing. Sansha Retaliation is here to stay and there is only two things you can do about it, nothing and accept it.
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Tao Zun
The Roaches
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:32:00 -
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Thank you CCP for slandering my name. I appreciate all of your posts everyone. I never said I knew anything all i ever said is i was trying to add more spice to the pot. I have talked to a CCP member and have sent emails to them. But i wanted people to be ready whenever and if ever it happened.
Thank you everyone for ruining my eve name and career. I appreciate the fact that the time i have taken away from my personal life and my own corporation to try and help make the player experience more enjoyable for those who dont get the rush of playing pretend.
Well I tried to do something but something seems to be the wrong thing to do. Guess i have been damned by players for attempting to voice player opinions.
But hey I guess trying wasn't good enough.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tao Zun Thank you CCP for slandering my name.
Wat?
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Kraal Jarik
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:42:00 -
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Nobody is mad at you, TaoZun. We're all used to people lying and boasting on the intarwebs, so it's all good. You DID mention "a couple days" and that you were "working with CCP", but we understand if you have to retract those--- uh--- statements and have to tuck-tail now. It happens when one fibs and gets called onto the carpet in public. :)
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth [ 2010.12.21 17:23:28 ] Tao Zun > 2. Ill come out and say Im workin with CCP on this one
It sounds like you're saying:
"I'm working with CCP on this one"... because it's EXACTLY what you said. No one is slandering your name. It's what you said.
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Cone Filler
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Truth Hi i think i am an investigator, truth is i have no clue on how the EvE community works, also have a problem understanding how the forum works, after this is said i want to attack someone whos been holding my hand through the harshness of eve
ohh my dont type what you think, think about what you type
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Miagi Sans
Amarr PURgE-Corp PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:53:00 -
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i lurk in the syne room so i can get a handle of when stuff occurs (havent had any yet since i joined) but i never seen anyone say they work directly for CCP and these chats could be false (possibly)
OR
He is just looking for his 5 mins of fame and glory in claiming to work with CCP (yes thats how its read) on these events (probable)
OR
He really is working with CCP in colusion (highly unlikely)
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Rhinanna
Minmatar Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.12.21 20:09:00 -
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Fairly clear this is just EvE truth been a troll here.
1 quote taken out of context means nothing.
Yes he wasn't perfectly literal, I'm sure hes been talking about the same subject for a while so is bound to make an accidental slip now and again (IE trying to work with ccp as opposed to working with CCP)
Oh and if CCP are getting sansha allied capsulers to work for the sanshas on the live events, its a GOOD thing and should only be given to the leaders of the corps in question. -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it. Drenzul (My normal internet tag) |
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.21 20:10:00 -
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Locked at OP's request with the title.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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