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Leoline
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:12:00 -
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I just wanted to give CCP a special thank you, for wasting 2 years of my life training for armor. it is well known the drake blob is -almost- unstoppable, and your refusal to nerf the machine in any way has made any armor tankers virtually useless. I know there has been hundreds of posts by people much smarter than me with ways to fix this and yet I have heard of nothing being done.
I know there are hundreds of people going to flame this post, some may even know me and throw up comments to do nothing but flame like children, however it needed to be said once again. Maybe just maybe one more negitive post on the matter will get CCP's attention
Leoline
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Merivel Mar
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:15:00 -
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:17:00 -
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Sporked
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Leoline I just wanted to give CCP a special thank you, for wasting 2 years of my life training for armor. it is well known the drake blob is -almost- unstoppable, and your refusal to nerf the machine in any way has made any armor tankers virtually useless. I know there has been hundreds of posts by people much smarter than me with ways to fix this and yet I have heard of nothing being done.
I know there are hundreds of people going to flame this post, some may even know me and throw up comments to do nothing but flame like children, however it needed to be said once again. Maybe just maybe one more negitive post on the matter will get CCP's attention
Leoline
Lol. No. Just because you can't think of counters does not mean it is unstoppable. Drakes die the same as everything else if you point enough guns at it, and the fact that they do delayed DPS is rather useful for armour HAC gangs because it gives their logi pilots more leeway with getting reps on people. ACTIVE armour tanking may have taken a downturn lately, but as far as I can see armour HAC gangs with decent logi support are still quite viable.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:18:00 -
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sell your character, buy drake pilot, profit?
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Zindela
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:19:00 -
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It took you a whole 2 years to train for armor tanking? Damn... I must have gotten a few free skills... Only took me about a month. -------------------
Originally by: CCP Oveur
Guess what I'm wearing.
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Goremageddon Box
Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sporked
Originally by: Leoline I just wanted to give CCP a special thank you, for wasting 2 years of my life training for armor. it is well known the drake blob is -almost- unstoppable, and your refusal to nerf the machine in any way has made any armor tankers virtually useless. I know there has been hundreds of posts by people much smarter than me with ways to fix this and yet I have heard of nothing being done.
I know there are hundreds of people going to flame this post, some may even know me and throw up comments to do nothing but flame like children, however it needed to be said once again. Maybe just maybe one more negitive post on the matter will get CCP's attention
Leoline
you should have more tank when you give up more layers of defence. having shields be the lol defense barrier and everything else being buffer or die is ******ed.
in conclusion, if you give up your first line of defence (shields) your second should be stronger (armor) and this should wrap up nicely and make hull tanking the highest tanking option because you effectively gave up two lines of defence Lol. No. Just because you can't think of counters does not mean it is unstoppable. Drakes die the same as everything else if you point enough guns at it, and the fact that they do delayed DPS is rather useful for armour HAC gangs because it gives their logi pilots more leeway with getting reps on people. ACTIVE armour tanking may have taken a downturn lately, but as far as I can see armour HAC gangs with decent logi support are still quite viable.
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Skram
Stormvanger Aerospace
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:26:00 -
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Yet another person that knows what's best for the game more than the people that made it, because the way the game is now doesn't allow them to be the ultimate killing machine.
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Leoline
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:29:00 -
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Yet another person that knows what's best for the game more than the people that made it, because the way the game is now doesn't allow them to be the ultimate killing machine.
hardly truth at all, I have never been called anything of the sort nor claimed it. I just want to be able to fly what I want to fly and have a -chance- of winning in a reasonably fair fight. right now 10 harbi's vs 10 drakes it is no where -near- fair. just saying
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Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:30:00 -
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Let me guess, trained Gallente when they were FOTM and now you are mad they aren't anymore?
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Leoline
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:33:00 -
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Let me guess, trained Gallente when they were FOTM and now you are mad they aren't anymore?
yes that is exactly what an amarr character trained Gallente......
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Tom Fulleride
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:38:00 -
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I don't seem to recall a certain legion finding the drake blob "overpowered", but then I might just be reading a different newsletter.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:42:00 -
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Only reason they are doing drake blobs is to abuse the mechanics associated with drones and missile lag.
5 drones per drake, and 6 ungrouped launchers = lots of lag!
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Leoline Let me guess, trained Gallente when they were FOTM and now you are mad they aren't anymore?
yes that is exactly what an amarr character trained Gallente......
Hey, I'm amarr, and I'm crosstrained into everything. As are all my alts. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Lurana Lay
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:45:00 -
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Stop whining, Armor is IT in 0.0 with AHAC+logi and Amarr Battleships more than anything else.
I trained up Cruise missiles and Torps back in the day just to see them nerfed to hell and mostly unused for pvop now.
I see my tank+propulsion+tackle/ewar slots getting eroded due to the missile changes and now having to fit painters and sometimes webs PLUS using rig slots for missile effectiveness rigs like rigor/flare, yet they never changed the slot layout of our ships.
My corp insists on everyone bringing remote rep ARMOR battleships and get quite annoyed when I try to bring a shield tanked ship.
Try to fit RR shield modules and see how idiotic the attributes are.
Get a grip Armor boy.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.21 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Leoline Let me guess, trained Gallente when they were FOTM and now you are mad they aren't anymore?
yes that is exactly what an amarr character trained Gallente......
Hey, I'm amarr, and I'm crosstrained into everything. As are all my alts.
Likewise, minmatar and trained in everything. Got sick of rushing to train into FOTM before it got nerfed so I just learned everything and now I can jump into FOTM whatever it may be
I miss my falcon of doom And my nanophoon of doom And my myrm of doom
Still going strong on my Drake of doom
*Touches self*
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2010.12.22 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Leoline Let me guess, trained Gallente when they were FOTM and now you are mad they aren't anymore?
yes that is exactly what an amarr character trained Gallente......
Hey, I'm amarr, and I'm crosstrained into everything. As are all my alts.
Cross training everything is best way to go. CCP can never nerf me, just make me cry that my latest craze has come to an end.
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Toros Revoke
Revoke Foundation
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Posted - 2010.12.22 01:56:00 -
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I have everything relating to armour at 5, which probably took a few months. What were you doing differently?
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Planktal Vyurr
Gallente Kenshao Industries Galactic Acqisition Specialists
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Posted - 2010.12.22 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Planktal Vyurr on 22/12/2010 02:56:38 Want to be nasty, get your friends and anyone else who armor tanks to go around and buy up all the drakes and re list at a higher price. Keep doing that for a while and make using the drake an expensive process.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2010.12.22 03:01:00 -
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I find drakes are not as good as people say they are. It certainly is not the fastest BC around.
As for the lag issues with missiles and drones - whose problem is that?
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.12.22 03:11:00 -
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Find a better alliance.
We run Armor BC, Armor HAC, RRBS, in addition to Shield BC roams.
Or train for shields, seriously, its like two weeks of training.
Gullible
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Electra Mercy
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Posted - 2010.12.22 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Electra Mercy on 22/12/2010 03:13:11 What would you like nerfed? It does not get more weapons than other Tier 2 BCs. It does not get more drones than other Tier 2 BCs. Its shield bonus is inline with the bonuses of the other Tier 2 BCs.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.12.22 03:59:00 -
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Came into this thread, expected brown-nosing and want-to-have-your-babies praises, left disappointed.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.12.22 04:15:00 -
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Look at the poor brutix lol.No tracking,and if you want to use the rep bonus by fitting two reps youll be lucky to get ions on there without one or two power grid rigs.And that with max fitting skills
Originally by: Skram Yet another person that knows what's best for the game more than the people that made it..
I think there are plenty of players who know it way better than they do.You want proof Ill be glad to list a few fail ships for you..no problem.I might even go in on a whole fail race.But I say leave the drake alone,if not we can all just train amarr and minmatarIts one of the only good ships caldari has.
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Artorius Pen'Dragon
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Posted - 2010.12.22 05:20:00 -
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I just had to pipe in here...
Uber passive shield tank Drake = NO EFFECTIVE TACKLE!!!
Armor tank = Plenty of effective tackle
Nuff said
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Marak Mocam
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Posted - 2010.12.22 05:49:00 -
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Just request fixes to defender missiles.
If those things become more potent, all this "missiles cause lag in PvP!" stuff will come to a close. Along with "Caldari ships rule PvE!" if it's put on the NPC's too...
No need to nerf anything, just buff one type of missile. Nobody cares if you can fit a ship out to 300k EHP if it can't hit anything for more than a T1 frigate can. So request a buff vs implying a nerf. Same end result but probably better support.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2010.12.22 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Marak Mocam Just request fixes to defender missiles.
If those things become more potent, all this "missiles cause lag in PvP!" stuff will come to a close. Along with "Caldari ships rule PvE!" if it's put on the NPC's too...
No need to nerf anything, just buff one type of missile. Nobody cares if you can fit a ship out to 300k EHP if it can't hit anything for more than a T1 frigate can. So request a buff vs implying a nerf. Same end result but probably better support.
Now that I think of it, did something happen to Defender missiles that made them worthless? Isn't there supposed to be a T2 Defender missile? I remember checking the market once - after getting lvl 5 skill, and not finding them.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.22 07:04:00 -
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Noone said it but "can i haz your stuff?"
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Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.22 07:06:00 -
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Fail Fit
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Posted - 2010.12.22 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose Let me guess, trained Gallente when they were FOTM and now you are mad they aren't anymore?
When was this? If at all...
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