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Danghor
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.22 23:36:00 -
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The reason we pay for this game and wait is mostly to get skillpoints that will allow us to get new stuff. Taking away skillpoints if you forget to upgrade your clone is silly to me, it's like a tax collector taking away stuff you paid for; I paid and waited for it, let me keep it. I suggest CCP take away the clone upgrade feature and replace it with implants insurance.
The way it will work will be similar to clone upgrades but instead you'll pay for the number of times you can keep your implants after being podded.
Example: Keep Implants Alpha (1 time) - 5 millions Keep Implants Beta (2 Times) - 15 millions Keep Implants Omega (3 Times) - 35 millions and so on
Those with cheap implants will most likely get the deal once or twice before they change implants again, because the total fee will get higher than the value of their implants. Those with the most expensive implants could have many more lives with implants, a limit will have to be determined, maybe 10 times and a very expensive fee attached to it.
This idea will enable the PVE players to get a bit more into lowsec and finaly try PVP, this system acts like a safety net, but you'll still lose your ships and a chunk of millions for the implants insurance.
Unfortunately, this system will also deliver a hit on the implant market, mostly the expensive ones, the demand will decrease a little bit and to counter that I suggest ALL items in the LP store can be sold on the market. Players will then divert their LP isk making into a new array of items that could be sold just as fast on the current market. Let's face it, the contracts shouldn't be used as a market for faction items, only as a bid market for the rarest items.
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Slick O'Hara
Pacific Dawn
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Posted - 2010.12.22 23:39:00 -
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Not supported. You want less risk in your pvp go back to whatever elf filled fantasy game you came from.
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Ephemeron
Solitairian Society
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Posted - 2010.12.22 23:51:00 -
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also this is a cross post from Features forum
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Danghor
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.23 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Slick O'Hara Not supported. You want less risk in your pvp go back to whatever elf filled fantasy game you came from.
Less risk = more pvp, isn't what pvp people want the most ? more targets ?
elf filled fantasy game ? No need to throll or provoke.
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Ephemeron
Solitairian Society
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Posted - 2010.12.23 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Danghor
Originally by: Slick O'Hara Not supported. You want less risk in your pvp go back to whatever elf filled fantasy game you came from.
Less risk = more pvp, isn't what pvp people want the most ? more targets ?
elf filled fantasy game ? No need to throll or provoke.
No. People want thrills in PvP, people want to hurt other people. When losses are rendered meaningless, victory feels pointless. Just like any online FPS, or like WoW PvP.
If anything, we want EVE PvP to become more serious - no ship insurance, higher costs.
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Clygorn
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Posted - 2010.12.23 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Clygorn on 23/12/2010 01:18:43 Edited by: Clygorn on 23/12/2010 01:11:34
Originally by: Ephemeron No. People want thrills in PvP, people want to hurt other people. When losses are rendered meaningless, victory feels pointless. Just like any online FPS, or like WoW PvP.
If anything, we want EVE PvP to become more serious - no ship insurance, higher costs.
If it remains that way or worse I don't see how you'll gain more people doing pvp. You're wrong about meaningless victory, most people are kill mail *****s. Plus, harrassing corps in high sec won't become meaningless, just as destroying enemies POS or kicking them out of low sec or 0.0 or a WH will still have a huge impact on morale. The guy losing his carrier will still feel very bad.
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Ephemeron
Solitairian Society
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Posted - 2010.12.23 01:19:00 -
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I'm against all measures that make PvP cheaper than it is already. In my opinion it has become too cheap. Over the years it became easier to make big isk, while costs for everything essential have been dropping.
Quality over quantity
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Danghor
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.23 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Danghor on 23/12/2010 01:25:00
Originally by: Ephemeron I'm against all measures that make PvP cheaper than it is already. In my opinion it has become too cheap. Over the years it became easier to make big isk, while costs for everything essential have been dropping.
Quality over quantity
Maybe you feel that way because you've been in this game for a long time, new people who can barely afford good implants have a hard time with pvp
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Ephemeron
Solitairian Society
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Posted - 2010.12.23 01:35:00 -
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don't bother with implants then if you are poor.
Contrary to popular believe, implants are a luxury, not a necessity. And those who cannot afford to lose them should not use them.
And the cost of +2 is so cheap that even a month old noob can afford to lose them every couple days
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Danghor
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.23 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron don't bother with implants then if you are poor.
Contrary to popular believe, implants are a luxury, not a necessity. And those who cannot afford to lose them should not use them.
And the cost of +2 is so cheap that even a month old noob can afford to lose them every couple days
Indeed, however since the popular belief is so strong, I suggest an alternative that can allow you to use implants and keep them for a while longer for pvp activities.
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Ephemeron
Solitairian Society
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Posted - 2010.12.23 01:57:00 -
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If CCP completely gave up on all their original principles and just catered the the lowest common denominator, this game would be just like WoW, only less popular cause there are no elfs.
There has already been a whole bunch of steps back from the hardcore principles, a whole bunch of concessions made to make PvP easy and cheap.
Anyway, the public would never accept this idea, cause most people actually agree with my line of thinking on this one.
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Danghor
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.23 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron If CCP completely gave up on all their original principles and just catered the the lowest common denominator, this game would be just like WoW, only less popular cause there are no elfs.
There has already been a whole bunch of steps back from the hardcore principles, a whole bunch of concessions made to make PvP easy and cheap.
Anyway, the public would never accept this idea, cause most people actually agree with my line of thinking on this one.
I don't care much, at least my idea is out there... As for the elf and wow reference, what's the deal ? I never played that game, most people in Eve never played it, I wish people would stop making that ridiculous reference.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
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Posted - 2010.12.23 07:52:00 -
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Whats next? Requesting insurance for faction mods?
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.12.23 20:54:00 -
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the thought of cheaper pvp is good, the reasons Yarr tards ***** about lack of targets is because no one wants to die for trying to mine.
HOWEVER no, implants a major isk sink, +5's cost about 65mil +LP from the Lp store ect. and if bought off market there is a fair market tax.
so no.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.12.23 22:08:00 -
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Usually people post in the Features and Ideas board to see how viable/well received their idea is BEFORE bringing it to the Assembly Hall. If the idea flops there, then chances are it will flop here.
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