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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2010.12.31 15:32:00 -
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OK question, I am inventing certain mods and it dosent make sense to use a decryptor at all on these? If you make a max run (10) copy bpc t2 most mods sell between 800k-1.1m so the gross sales on the mods is only around 8-11m. The decryptors cost between 5-25m. So this being the case does it make sense only to use your skills as the chance factor and not increase it using decryptors / meta items? The bpc only will sell for 4-5 mil if the gross sale price on the mod is between 8-11m
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KaarBaak
Minmatar Seatec Astronomy
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Posted - 2010.12.31 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: BolsterBomb OK question, I am inventing certain mods and it dosent make sense to use a decryptor at all on these? If you make a max run (10) copy bpc t2 most mods sell between 800k-1.1m so the gross sales on the mods is only around 8-11m. The decryptors cost between 5-25m. So this being the case does it make sense only to use your skills as the chance factor and not increase it using decryptors / meta items? The bpc only will sell for 4-5 mil if the gross sale price on the mod is between 8-11m
I was part of a corp that used this exact philosophy to great profit. We used 50% success as a planning factor. -Copy max run BPCs -invent (no decryptor) -manuf -sell (location location location) -profit
GL,
KB Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2010.12.31 15:48:00 -
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Thanks I wanted to make sure I wasnt going crazy. The datacores themself cost around 800k per bp try.
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Bath Sheeba
Gallente Another Success Story
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Posted - 2011.01.01 18:39:00 -
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Decryptors only make sense for ships IMHO.....and then only on certain ones.
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Emporer Norton
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Posted - 2011.01.01 22:03:00 -
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Also on some rigs need to figure cost to build vs savings with decrypter
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.01.02 20:22:00 -
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just bumping this for clarification / confirmation again. On the contract market currently there are feew if any t2 bpcs.
Can someone confirm if researching / selling t2 bpcs only is viable. I have checked several t2 mods (all regions) and cannot find a market for them.
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Lotty Granat
Superior Shipyards Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.01.03 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: BolsterBomb just bumping this for clarification / confirmation again. On the contract market currently there are feew if any t2 bpcs.
Can someone confirm if researching / selling t2 bpcs only is viable. I have checked several t2 mods (all regions) and cannot find a market for them.
The Market only lists packaged BPOs - you wont find any T2 BPOs on there (but can use it to look them up for an idea of what you need to make the item at ME0). Check contracts for T2 BPCs - you'll find many on there and get an idea of price.
HTH,
LG
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.01.03 00:30:00 -
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a "market" on contracts, meaning I cant find t2 bpcs for sale on contract. Its like there is no market for it?
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Jack Norris
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.01.03 00:31:00 -
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You won't find t2 bpc because everyone either build their t2 bpc after inventing it or it gets snatched up quickly.
For me, I build it and sell it to the market
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.01.03 01:58:00 -
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so ppl will buy the bpc's off contracts then?
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Tellenta
Gallente Pastry Productions Inc. Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2011.01.03 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: BolsterBomb so ppl will buy the bpc's off contracts then?
Yeah, maybe. Ship BPC's especially specialist ones with a good me like the anshar and black ops. Modules, well you might be able to find a sucker. But you've already covered the problem earlier in this thread, the profit is in the production and trying to make isk on the BPC's will be tricky at best you will have to find the delicate line between profit for you and the producer when the profit margin for one bpc can be less than %50 when talking modules neither party is eager to lose profit. Heck most ship BPC's I've seen on the market are over priced.
Hint: if buying the BPC and assembling the parts even through buy orders and running the reactions runs at cost for the ship. Not a good deal. People will still buy it though if you are lucky because people are dumb.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.04 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 04/01/2011 02:53:18
Originally by: BolsterBomb a "market" on contracts, meaning I cant find t2 bpcs for sale on contract. Its like there is no market for it?
In general, it takes the same skills to manufacture from a T2 BPC as it does to invent a T2 BPC, so there really isn't much point to the market.
Compare with T1 BPC which sell because many people buy them for invention. This is especially true of expensive BPO like Covetor.
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Bath Sheeba
Gallente Another Success Story
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Posted - 2011.01.05 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: BolsterBomb so ppl will buy the bpc's off contracts then?
There are several people that I know that do this, but it usually is a consignment thing.
Like, "Hey, Joe, give me a batch of 10 Module XYZ's, please. Let me know what the cost will be and contract it to me."
IF you do want to do this, here is how I would do this: 1. Figure out what you can invent with your skills and how much it would cost to do it. You can use this site to do that: http://daoc.ethinarg.com/eve/inventions.php 2. Once you have your list and how much it costs you, start amassing copies of the tech I BPC with max runs. 3. Go to the Sell orders forum and put up a post about doing an invention consignment business. List what you can invent, what your current lead time is and how much you will charge per T2 BPC.
If you do that you should have some success as long as your price per BPC is not ridiculous. I have seen and dealt with some idiots. 10%-15% markup would be about the maximum, any more than that and T2 manufacturers will just do it themselves.
Remember, many T2 modules can garner almost a 50% profit over manu+invention costs, and any secondary cost(like buying T2 BPC from you) cuts into that.
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LT1
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Posted - 2011.01.05 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
In general, it takes the same skills to manufacture from a T2 BPC as it does to invent a T2 BPC, so there really isn't much point to the market.
This.
As an example, consider for a T2 frigate you'll have $2M+ in the T2 single-run BPC. You'd have to sell the BPC for $4M+ to make a $2M (~50% profit)...or you can build the associated ship yourself and make 3x that amount on the overall chain.
And the buyer needs to have not only most of the invention skills but also ones like Production Efficiency V to even get close to market price.
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.01.05 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: LT1
This.
As an example, consider for a T2 frigate you'll have $2M+ in the T2 single-run BPC. You'd have to sell the BPC for $4M+ to make a $2M (~50% profit)...or you can build the associated ship yourself and make 3x that amount on the overall chain.
And the buyer needs to have not only most of the invention skills but also ones like Production Efficiency V to even get close to market price.
You also have to do the manufacturing and haul the minerals. It can be easier/faster to cut and run on the profits.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.06 00:55:00 -
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I had a lol moment early in my research/invention career...
If anyone would like to purchase 30 Medium Salvage Tackle II (max run) BPCs, drop me an evemail.
If you don't know why this is a LOL, seriously...evemail me with an offer.
KB
Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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Ticker Troon
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
You also have to do the manufacturing and haul the minerals. It can be easier/faster to cut and run on the profits.
Certainly true - but if you have the infrastructure and logistics to do copy/invention...it's a very small additional investment.
Everyone has to choose their own path to profit :)
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gtiness
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:44:00 -
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Clicky, Clicky for about 15 minutes a day. Red Frog from Jita for advanced materials / PI commodities. Local mineral buy orders. POS for research, copy, and invention.
Single biggest timesink is buying stuff in Jita once or twice a week and you should easily be profiting several hundred million ISK per week even if you only do modules.
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