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Raydall
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Posted - 2011.01.07 08:13:00 -
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I have just returned to the game after a 4 year break and am enjoying getting back into it.
My point is "Has podding someone become normal behaviour"
Last night I took my cheaply equiped destroyer into lowsec to do a little ratting, after a short time some pirate comes in and I am obviously outmatched. After the short battle the guy then tries to destroy my pod, no ransom request or anything. When I used to play this was very uncommon.
Is this behaviour that I can expect to see regularly? If so I need to join a corp earlier than I was planning. Cheers
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.01.07 08:17:00 -
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Welcome back to EVE As to your low sec attempted podding, yes this is pretty much the norm these days. And not just in low-sec either, high sec ganking including pod kills are on the rise.
Don't let any of that put you off staying now that you have returned, join up with a player corp, go out in gangs and have fun
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.01.07 08:17:00 -
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I pod on the first gank.
Gullible
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Acrior
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Posted - 2011.01.07 08:51:00 -
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when in hull, align and spam warp you will never get podded unless bubbles/massive lag I get the lag a lot sadly
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Raydall
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Posted - 2011.01.07 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Acrior when in hull, align and spam warp you will never get podded unless bubbles/massive lag I get the lag a lot sadly
Yes, it was the lag that nearly did for me. It was the lag that stopped me warping out immediately too. Thats why I only lowsec in throw away ships.
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steveomustang
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Posted - 2011.01.07 09:05:00 -
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yep, I don't know what happened to pirates ransoming either, I've been caught off gaurd with my pants down a time or 2 and would have paid to keep my implants, doesn't seem to happen anymore at all, sadly the quality of "descent" pirates has fallen
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Br41n
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.01.07 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: steveomustang yep, I don't know what happened to pirates ransoming either, I've been caught off gaurd with my pants down a time or 2 and would have paid to keep my implants, doesn't seem to happen anymore at all, sadly the quality of "descent" pirates has fallen
Its simple, implants got dirt cheap. Making isk very easy. No one pays 100M to safe his/her pod anymore unless they run with slave sets. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pinky: Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
DarkAegix
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Posted - 2011.01.07 09:28:00 -
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One word: Killmail wh***s That's why there's so much pod-without-ransom. Podding is completely unnecessary, except for tears/etc
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.01.07 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: DarkAegix except for tears
Isn't this what most low-sec dwellers are after?
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Archbeholder
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Posted - 2011.01.07 10:42:00 -
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I think that when you pod someone they should lose 5% of their total skill points, because these days podding doesnt feel significant, there should be some impact in it
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Rin Vires
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Posted - 2011.01.07 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder I think that when you pod someone they should lose 5% of their total skill points, because these days podding doesnt feel significant, there should be some impact in it
I hope your not being serious, because thats the worst idea I've heard in a long time.
Aegix was right, the reason for the rise in podding is because of killmail obsessed "pirates". They care more about getting points than stealing ISK and getting swag. Which is why I think they should be called something else. Raiders or something, but not pirates.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.07 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: steveomustang yep, I don't know what happened to pirates ransoming either, I've been caught off gaurd with my pants down a time or 2 and would have paid to keep my implants, doesn't seem to happen anymore at all, sadly the quality of "descent" pirates has fallen
I fell for the whole "ransom" trick once.
Assume the pirates will not honor any ransom request.
KB Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.01.07 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Acrior when in hull, align and spam warp you will never get podded unless bubbles/massive lag or smartbombs I get the lag a lot sadly
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Minn Finn
Minn Finn School of Chinn
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Posted - 2011.01.07 13:02:00 -
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Losing your ship is like a slap in the face.
Getting podded is like getting punched in the ****. --------------------- MFC Industrial Lotto Vaerah Vahrokha Secured PUBLIC CHANNEL: MFC LOTTO |
Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: KaarBaak
I fell for the whole "ransom" trick once.
Assume the pirates will not honor any ransom request.
KB
Don't lump in gankbears, Killmail *****s and assorted idiots who live on the edges of lowsec with real pirates.
Actual Piracy involves making a living off it, and by proxy, having a good reputation so people *will* pay ransoms. ---
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar JOKAS Industries Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: steveomustang yep, I don't know what happened to pirates ransoming either, I've been caught off gaurd with my pants down a time or 2 and would have paid to keep my implants, doesn't seem to happen anymore at all, sadly the quality of "descent" pirates has fallen
Same here, just about two years ago I was ransomed twice, and they even honored it. Something has changed evidently, either new boneheads/kiddies in the game or something.
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Fulkurth
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:19:00 -
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Might start asking for payment in Quafe in any future ransoms
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: DarkAegix One word: Killmail wh***s That's why there's so much pod-without-ransom. Podding is completely unnecessary, except for tears/etc
People that say stuff like that are the ones that fear losing anything in this game.
There is nothing wrong with getting an extra edge against an opponent by catching their pod. Especially if it is a war target since it contributes both to their loss of morale and a hit on their wallet (warfunds) especially if they had expensive implants. It also removes an unwanted set of eyes from local.
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Murev Vorchilde
Caldari End Game.
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:28:00 -
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We kill the enemy, simple as that. Ransoms are only worth doing if you need the isk and in a game this old who really still needs isk. - How Id Fix Secret world of pensioners |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: DarkAegix One word: Killmail wh***s That's why there's so much pod-without-ransom. Podding is completely unnecessary, except for tears/etc
People that say stuff like that are the ones that fear losing anything in this game.
There is nothing wrong with getting an extra edge against an opponent by catching their pod. Especially if it is a war target since it contributes both to their loss of morale and a hit on their wallet (warfunds) especially if they had expensive implants. It also removes an unwanted set of eyes from local.
This is how I see it. There just are good reasons for killing the pod and no real reasons for letting it go. Making money in this game isn't exactly difficult these days, so unless you PvP exclusively you're unlikely to need the ransom money anyway.
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:44:00 -
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Depends.
A -10 character will have nothing to lose in podding you, so run.
A normal character may not try to pod you, but best not to leave to chance. I sometimes pod people who sit there for ages to teach them a lesson.
In nullsec, there is no reason not to pod. Its an extra killmail and removes potential of someone providing intel from a pod in space. I have only occasionally ransomed pods for 50mil, but most people choose not to pay.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.07 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 07/01/2011 14:53:34
Originally by: DarkAegix One word: Killmail wh***s That's why there's so much pod-without-ransom. Podding is completely unnecessary, except for tears/etc
Ummm...thats two words (maybe thats your point...lol), but this pretty much says it all i/m/h/o.
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Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2011.01.07 16:10:00 -
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Its the only way to moderate local.
Even a set +4s and some modest hardwiring will cost more than most T1 ships cost to lose, so if you want to make an economic impact on people, pod them.
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Jack Paladin
Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.01.07 16:45:00 -
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Welcome to EVE.
I heard POD GOO is going to be used in Incarna ;)
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mech res
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Posted - 2011.01.07 16:49:00 -
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If you don't kill pods you may find an enemy gang warping on top of you. But if local is fairly clear, pods are a pretty low priority for me.
The problem I have with podding and instalock ships is that they are dealing with reaction times lower than the eve server can reliably deliver. If you spam the warp button like a nine year old playing some kung fu game then you *should* warp out immediately. But if you have an instalocking ship attacking you, you will get caught quite often before you can warp despite anything you do.
Why? I donĘt think CCP can reliably sort out these time frames. Even slight lag will through this off. Hence eve begins to have less to do with skill and more to do with luck.
The net effect is that if you have a good connection you can use expensive implants in low sec and get a large advantage over everyone else in low sec. If not, well you fight at a disadvantage.
BTW I do have a decent connection and my main often flies with expensive implants so I am not saying this to whine. I actually benefit from the situation, but recognize itĘs not really fair.
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Watak Hunt
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Posted - 2011.01.07 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: mech res Hence eve begins to have less to do with skill and more to do with luck.
There is luck I'll accept, as there is in all aspects of life, however EVE has far more to do with skill to the point that luck becomes all but irrelevent.
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Atra Hasis
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Posted - 2011.01.07 17:26:00 -
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I agree, a definite distinction needs to be made between actual pirates and those who just kill for the points.
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S'Way
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.07 17:39:00 -
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If you don't pod people how else will you get a nice corpse collection for when they add walking in stations ?
The fact you've removed a potential intel source from local your targets could have used....and the thought you might have just destroyed a nice full slave / crystal set of implants your alts trade in is just an added bonus. |
mech res
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Posted - 2011.01.07 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Watak Hunt
Originally by: mech res Hence eve begins to have less to do with skill and more to do with luck.
There is luck I'll accept, as there is in all aspects of life, however EVE has far more to do with skill to the point that luck becomes all but irrelevent.
I agree EVE *in general* does have to do with skill. But this particular issue of podding people in low sec (assuming the person knows a basic mechanic to spam warp) has nothing to do with skill. Will your pod warp out when you spam warp versus an intalocking ship? That is entirely up to the type of connection/computer you have and luck. No skill is involved at all, despite being very important.
You say this is irrelevant. I think the use of expensive implants gives me a large advantage in low sec pvp.
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Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2011.01.07 17:43:00 -
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Yeah podding is normal. I learned (Thankfully not the hard way) to PVP only in a clone with no or cheap implants. OR, if you are worried about training time, use only 2 learning implants that affect the attributes for the specific skill you are training, and only enter low/null or PVP when you are training the skills that require those attributes.
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