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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 16:19:00 -
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'lo New Eden,
I'm currently at a bit of an impasse at a project I'm currently working on. However I have a solution, and all of you lovely people can help me with it.
Bluntly, I need Jovians of breeding quality. Yes yes, I'm sure I know what you all will say, "There's no jovian's anywhere much less jovian slaves, blah blah blah, I'm a tool." Yes, I'm well aware of the rarity of living Jovians, much less Jovian slaves. However, I'm also not in awes of them enough to think that some Jovian somewhere, some when never got frisky with someone outside of the Collective. However, because of the rarity of these persons, I will pay a sum of 200 million isk for a male Jovian of breeding quality, and 700 million isk for a female jovian of breeding quality. I will of course need to perform genetic typing on these individuals before their purchase.
Now of course, that is the most optimistic outlook, I've numerous contingencies to build on, first off, I'll be purchasing up to 10 of the fragments of that Jovian who smeared himself across the cluster, for 30 million isk per sample.
I'll also be willing to purchase up to 20 normal slaves for 200,000 isk each, these slaves need to have the following gene strings, which will need to be varified by me before purchase:
Originally by: Gene Strings Chromosome 01 AGTA ACGA TGTA GAGT AATC
Chromosome 02 GAAT GGTT AA-G GCUC
Chromosome 06 CGTA GTAC GCGT GTGC G-GA GGGC GUUG GCCT GTTA
Chromosome 13 GTGC CCGC AGCA AG-C AAGA CCGG GAGA GTTA GUUA
Chromosome 17 GTTA GTCC
Chromosome 21 GGTA GCCG GAGG A-TT AAAU GUGA TATG GTGA
Chromosome 24 GTGT CUAA ATAT AAGA GATT
Chromosome 29 CCGC CCCC GAGC AUCC CATA
Chromosome 36 AAGA GATA G-GU CATC
Chromosome 37 AGAT GATT GUUU CUCC GAUA TTTA GATG CCUG CAGU CAGT TTAT TACC CATG GGA-
Chromosome 41 GGAG GAGT GTTT GUUA
Chromosome 47 GTGT ATAA UCUA TTAT UAAU TAGA GAUC CATT -GAT TATA GAGG GTGT UUUU GTGT
Chromosome 48 UUUU GGGG CCCC AAAA TTTT A--A AAAT AATA ATAA TAAA T--T GTAT GAGA CCUG TCAG GCCG CCAT
As I stated before, all samples looking to be sold to me require genetic testing by me to prove their authenticity before any isk is transferred, no exceptions. To anyone interested in helping me with this, thank you, good luck, and have a very nice day.
Nikita S. Alterana Executive Officer, Risen Angels Angel Cartel
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Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2011.01.12 16:29:00 -
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That'll be a new one for the coroner. "Suicide by Directorate."
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Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:08:00 -
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Well, this is going to be interesting. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Tagera
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:31:00 -
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It almost seems like you are planning on splicing Jovian DNA into the "subjects" you are wanting. Trying to work on being another Kuvakei?
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tagera It almost seems like you are planning on splicing Jovian DNA into the "subjects" you are wanting. Trying to work on being another Kuvakei?
Uh no, The subjects in question, with those gene sequences contain fundamental Jovian DNA strings, the core of their bioengineered people. If I have people with those genes and gene markers, I can begin to reconstruct the Jovian Genome virtually to get around the trouble of locating an actual living breathing Jovian. Of course, these gene chains are rather...extremely rare. But I'm confident that somewhere out there I can find them.
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 12/01/2011 17:52:31 I don't know much about Jovians, but what little information is available suggests that they reproduce by means of "fetus tubes".
At least that's what I heard...
If this is true, how will you determine breeding quality?
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Vindictus Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 12/01/2011 17:52:31 I don't know much about Jovians, but what little information is available suggests that they reproduce by means of "fetus tubes".
At least that's what I heard...
If this is true, how will you determine breeding quality?
Generally a high breeding quality Jovian will be of fertile age, with their reproductive systems mostly intact, with a minimum of genetic degradation. Despite Jovians being created in artificial wombs, the genetic material is still taken from living Jovians.
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Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Myxx on 12/01/2011 18:00:21 FYI: The above genetic strings are available quite literally within normal pod pilots. Its the genetic strings that make us compatible with a pod.
The trouble, is that normal pod pilots aren't... easy to deal with for what Nikita seems to be doing. Its just easier this way, really, to reconstruct them from the ground up. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nikita Alterana on 12/01/2011 18:10:28
Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 12/01/2011 18:00:21 FYI: The above genetic strings are available quite literally within normal pod pilots. Its the genetic strings that make us compatible with a pod.
The trouble, is that normal pod pilots aren't... easy to deal with for what Nikita seems to be doing. Its just easier this way, really, to reconstruct them from the ground up.
While that's mostly true, the Chromosome 48 chains are entirely artificial and only would be found in those who are somehow of Jovian ancestry or have had Jovian genetics injected via another method.
Crazy doesn't even start to cover it |
Anneka Tong
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2011.01.12 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nikita Alterana I'm currently at a bit of an impasse
Originally by: Gene Strings
Chromosome 47 Chromosome 48
This impasse is not entirely unsurprising, given your stated requirements here.
I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: Cybercow |
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Maximum Kiely
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.12 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 12/01/2011 18:00:21 FYI: The above genetic strings are available quite literally within normal pod pilots. Its the genetic strings that make us compatible with a pod.
Well if that is the case I would be more than happy to pull some hairs out of my ass for the offered price of 30 million isk per sample and send them to Ms. Alterana.
Based out of The Citadel - Contact Maximum Kiely |
Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum Kiely
Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 12/01/2011 18:00:21 FYI: The above genetic strings are available quite literally within normal pod pilots. Its the genetic strings that make us compatible with a pod.
Well if that is the case I would be more than happy to pull some hairs out of my ass for the offered price of 30 million isk per sample and send them to Ms. Alterana.
Not really what we're looking for. I don't think you 'get' it, but then I don't think you're meant to either. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Maximum Kiely
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: Maximum Kiely
Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 12/01/2011 18:00:21 FYI: The above genetic strings are available quite literally within normal pod pilots. Its the genetic strings that make us compatible with a pod.
Well if that is the case I would be more than happy to pull some hairs out of my ass for the offered price of 30 million isk per sample and send them to Ms. Alterana.
Not really what we're looking for. I don't think you 'get' it, but then I don't think you're meant to either.
*stops spinning in his office chair and pulls a well chewed stogy from his mouth*
Oh, I "get" enough Myxx.
*spits into the waste basket, takes a swig from an unlabelled bottle of amber liquid and goes back to spinning*
Based out of The Citadel - Contact Maximum Kiely |
Unit XS365BT
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:47:00 -
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You have our attention pilots. However, Unit queries the purpose of this research.
We Return.
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Tykari
Gallente AOE Enterprise Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.12 21:56:00 -
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That all depends on how long the Jove have been interfering with the Empires in the past and if they indeed introduced their genetic material in the general or even a limited part of the population. From what little information we have the Jove haven't reproduced sexually for a very long time.
Also I wonder why you want to do this. The Jove mangled their genetic make-up pretty good. I doubt you'd be able to create a healthy Jove considering they've been trying for longer than we have been in space.
But then I suspect this has nothing to do with trying to help the Jove.
------ In my memories is still see the waves. The light and the energy pulsing, forming shapes so complex and beautiful. It is a tale none will ever believe. |
Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tykari
But then I suspect this has nothing to do with trying to help the Jove.
It doesnt. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Tykari
Gallente AOE Enterprise Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.12 22:14:00 -
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Found something of theirs that won't open/activate unless one of them is trying to do it? ------ In my memories is still see the waves. The light and the energy pulsing, forming shapes so complex and beautiful. It is a tale none will ever believe. |
Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.12 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tykari Found something of theirs that won't open/activate unless one of them is trying to do it?
She holds her hand over her mouth, giggling quietly to herself
Its a secret I'm afraid, but that might be a decent use for them as well...
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.01.13 05:09:00 -
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So you already know the amino acid pairs of the chromosomes you need? You just need samples?
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Jesmine Kyriel
Amarr House Kyriel Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.13 20:52:00 -
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I hope that your entire project, not to mention your organiztion, falls flat on it's face and fails.
No Holder worthy of the position will sell you any slaves, in case you were wondering.
_________________________ Exile. Reformist. Elder. |
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Aracturus
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Posted - 2011.01.13 23:32:00 -
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Oh great. Jovians. Naked Jovians. Is that what this is about, Miss Alterana? If so, I really really don't want to see it.
*shudders* Naked Jovians. Thats a scary thought.
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Fattyfatty DingDong
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Posted - 2011.01.14 04:36:00 -
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I'm no expert on DNA, but if you find me a Jovian woman, I can make some very large half Jovians. |
Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.14 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga You just need samples?
or understand how to create them somehow.
As for the rest, you have provided me with a laugh, thank you. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Deceiver's Voice
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Posted - 2011.01.14 07:42:00 -
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Oh my dear, quite fascinating.
Though I don't know what this project is, you of course realize that there is onemany flaws in your plan, don't you? Not to mention the fact that if you want Jovian DNA, it is most likely in the most easily accessible place you could imagine. You are able to hunt your own corpses, are you not?
That, combined with some creative reverse engineering should give you all the insight you need.
I know you have the ISK to spend, but why reveal so much of your intent on this?
I must scurry back to my self-imposed obscurity now.
-Nikiruu
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.01.14 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: Rek Jaiga You just need samples?
or understand how to create them somehow.
A much easier task. But it's perhaps asking a bit too much for Cartel scum to use their brain when they can throw some isk around.
Originally by: Rek Jaiga So you already know the amino acid pairs of the chromosomes you need? You just need samples?
Nucleic acid base pairs, not amino acid.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar Ma'asei Merkabah Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.01.14 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Borza Slavak But it's perhaps asking a bit too much for Cartel scum to use their brain when they can throw some isk around.
And throwing around childish taunts is using your brain? If you had any knowledge of what goes on inside the Cartel whatsoever you would know how stupid your comment looks.
The quality of pilots coming out of school from the Republic nowadays really is quite disturbing.
Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken. |
Niraia
Gallente Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.01.14 14:09:00 -
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Hi Nikita! I'm not very Jovian, but you can have as much of my DNA as you like, you just have to use your tongue to collect it :)
Good luck with your project! -
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.01.14 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia Hi Nikita! I'm not very Jovian, but you can have as much of my DNA as you like, you just have to use your tongue to collect it :)
Good luck with your project!
I support and/or endorse this idea. If you get samples in such a manner, you are very lucky!
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Anneka Tong
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2011.01.14 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel I hope that your entire project falls flat on it's face and fails.
Already has.
See, thing is, and this is what I asked about 2 days ago, when they said chromosomes 47 and 48, and mentioned difficulty in finding such, this is the problem.
Organisms with 48 chromosomes include tubers, smoking herb, and some forest apes.
Humans have 46.
So, the stated requirement for specific gene strings on humans on chromosomes 47 and 48, is impossible. They don't exist.
That coupled with the Jovians taking a dim view of things of this nature, means no such individuals or slaves exist. The Jovian Secret Service would come down hard on such behaviour.
The purchase price becomes irrelevant. None exist to sell.
So, what is this scheme all about then?
Can't be to get contacts for slave dealers, none would have such nonexistent slaves.
Can't be for business contacts either, as with public statements that they are into corporate theft and blackmail, who would want to become involved? No-one. Blackmail only works when the blackmailers identity is secret. Revealing as such defeats the purpose.
The purchase price, for non existent items, reveals only that they have 1Bn+ of isk that they consider to be disposable on fripperies. A statement of "Look at my fat wallet", which is rather crass and unbecoming, and in any case is not a particularly large amount. 1Tn+ might be. But 1Bn is not.
So, back to "chromosomes 47 and 48". Assuming some slave traders were stupid enough to think they had such, and were naive enough to consider business with self-confessed thieves and blackmailers, then the requirement that they must be tested before any payment is an impossible test. "Oh they don't match, no money for you!" attention seeking. Which is again rather crass and unbecoming.
So, the end result is that this whole project is an attempt to establish a reputation as being I don't know, some kind of scientific master criminal involved in such epic schemes mere mortals cannot comprehend.
But fails on basic fact that 46 is not 48.
I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: Cybercow |
Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.01.14 18:03:00 -
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Everyone is off the mark, still.
No, it isnt about business contacts. We have enough of those.
No, it isnt about being showy with our wallets.
No, it isnt about scamming.
No, we dont expect to find a real, living Jovian.
Read again:
Quote: I'll also be willing to purchase up to 20 normal slaves for 200,000 isk each
Genetic splicing, if we learn how to create the genetic strings 47/48, is possible.
Quote: I've numerous contingencies to build on
Be careful not to mis-read the wording, because it sort of matters. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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