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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.14 14:53:00 -
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I don't expect there to be videos matching the quality, tactics or commentary of the Clarion Call/Ironclad videos, although would be happy to find any gameplay vids featuring (and preferably focusing on) the Chimera carrier. -- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.01.15 01:56:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrkS226a36w
Imagine you sit there in your chimaera running capital remote reppers.
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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.15 06:14:00 -
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K, tried to find it funny, failed at it.
Should be at least a couple of good Chimera vids around. Anyone? -- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.01.15 12:48:00 -
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Dude I'm serious. Repping and moving **** is what a carrier is used for about 95% of the time. 4& is probably anomaly running and 1% real combat.
Sure I pulled these numbers out of my ass but it cant be far from the truth. And no you are not likely to find any videos of a chimaera actually doing something cool out there, but to give you a hint about how a carrier works:
1) launch fighters
2) make your fighters attack something
3) repair the guy screaming the most on comms
It's not really that cool once you do it.
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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.15 18:40:00 -
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Well I never mentioned wanting to see the Chimera doing 'cool' things or chasing ships. I know what carriers are used for and the awesome videos I mentioned in the first post feature not much more than that, but are still awesome.
-- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.16 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tornicks Well I never mentioned wanting to see the Chimera doing 'cool' things or chasing ships. I know what carriers are used for and the awesome videos I mentioned in the first post feature not much more than that, but are still awesome.
I hate to break it to you but the chimera sucks donkey balls. You want a FPP vid of it but what pilot would fraps that for you. It doesn't do dmg like the thanny, and can't tank like an archon. You might be able to find some rocking footage of a chimera repping up a POS shield somewhere with a nidhog buddy.
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I does like have spaceship vids n stuff
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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.16 09:40:00 -
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Thanks for putting it down. The reason I still think there should have been a couple of Chimera vids posted is that despite it being less popular of a carrier compared to others, I've still seen quite a few Chimeras in fleets of the alliances I've been with; and I can't imagine a pilot having one of these beauties, having Fraps and time to capture it, and not wanting to do it.
-- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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Klazktrknuitzksalikamono
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Posted - 2011.01.18 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tornicks Thanks for putting it down. The reason I still think there should have been a couple of Chimera vids posted is that despite it being less popular of a carrier compared to others, I've still seen quite a few Chimeras in fleets of the alliances I've been with; and I can't imagine a pilot having one of these beauties, having Fraps and time to capture it, and not wanting to do it.
There's your problem.
Also flying a chimera is kinda a disgrace, mainly for how useless it is in fleets, and its only real purpose in anoms.
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icecooljon
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.01.18 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Klazktrknuitzksalikamono
Originally by: Tornicks Thanks for putting it down. The reason I still think there should have been a couple of Chimera vids posted is that despite it being less popular of a carrier compared to others, I've still seen quite a few Chimeras in fleets of the alliances I've been with; and I can't imagine a pilot having one of these beauties, having Fraps and time to capture it, and not wanting to do it.
There's your problem.
Also flying a chimera is kinda a disgrace, mainly for how useless it is in fleets, and its only real purpose in anoms.
You sir, are an idiot.
The problem isn't with the ship itself, rather the effectiveness with EVE current fleet set up's. Yes, if I were to jump in a chimera to support an armor tanked gang then of course it would be pointless. However the same works with an archon and a shield gang.
Chimera's are, and will continue to be the best carriers for shield tanking gang.
ps. Yes I am a caldari pilot and hate armor gangs with a burning passion. I want my shield fleets!
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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.19 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: icecooljon ps. Yes I am a caldari pilot and hate armor gangs with a burning passion. I want my shield fleets!
I strongly share that sentiment, and continue to refuse to cross-train to armor ships.
-- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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Kirith Kodachi
m3 Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:52:00 -
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This might be up your alley: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1452504
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Burt Rainholds
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tornicks
Originally by: icecooljon ps. Yes I am a caldari pilot and hate armor gangs with a burning passion. I want my shield fleets!
I strongly share that sentiment, and continue to refuse to cross-train to armor ships.
I love you guys refusing to cross train. You guys are pro-gamers! I love you so much that I immediately set my guns on your Rokhs when there's 20 Guardians on the field. You boys are the best!
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Miriam Sasko
Matari Exodus
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Posted - 2011.01.21 11:27:00 -
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At first glance, it is tempting to use triage Chimeras pretty much like triage Archons to hold a shield gank fleet alive. Unfortunately, the relative value of med- and lowslots, especially the relevant capacitor mods, forbids that.
Grabbed a random loss from the RnK killboard:
Quote: [Archon, Angelica Sarenit's Archon] Capital Armor Repairer I Capital Armor Repairer I Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Capital Energy Transfer Array I Capital Remote Armor Repair System I Capital Remote Armor Repair System I Capital Remote Armor Repair System I Triage Module I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
... and was unable to eft a Chimera setup that even remotely resembles this. If you use the same amount of cap mods (3x PDU + 4 Cap Recharger + 3 CCC) you still have only 360 cap/s instead of 550. If you use 3x CPR, you get the same cap as above but completely screw your local tank - and still need more cap for shield transfers than for the exact same hp/s as armor RR. This is fair though considering the alpha advantage.
That is not even mentioning that once you fit a capital shield booster + triage module + 3x capital shield transfer, you have 106,25 TF cpu left for everything else. Have fun fitting invulfields, recharge mods and something in your final highslot without resorting to fitting mods.
I guess in a fleet context, you can use slaved Chimeras as walking batteries with their cap transfer, but even in smallish gangs they simply suck, which is why no one bothers making fancy videos about them.
And yes, this is purely eft based. I have never even been in a fleet with a carrier, much less flown one.
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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.21 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kirith Kodachi This might be up your alley: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1452504
Thanks for the link.
Re the post about us the players refusing to cross-train: if the mental capacity used for that kind of posts was rather used for suggesting to CCP new mechanics/features that would balance the armor/shield tanking matter, we'd have better EVE.
-- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:17:00 -
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RnK use archons. Chimera is just a POS slave.
Carriers are for repping fleets, repping pos, moving ships and assigning fighters from a pos. Not much interesting about any of that.
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Tornicks
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.21 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc RnK use archons. Chimera is just a POS slave.
Carriers are for repping fleets, repping pos, moving ships and assigning fighters from a pos. Not much interesting about any of that.
Well I do find it interesting.
-- 'Non-essential personnel, abandon ship.' Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba's last command, CE23155
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