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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 18:44:40 IT'S PLEASURE HUBS ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!! You know ccp, I know you won't put in adjustable height, and I know you won't make any drastic changes to sculpting(like the forehead), but as it is, CCP is releasing an unfinished product.
The old character creator just has more stuff.
The current creator has had a bunch of hair styles removed from the older builds. It has a lack of face implants, scars, tattoos, and clothing. Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
CCP should do the smart thing and put this the game the same way they are putting in the new unfinished UI. As an optional toy to play with. I mean don't get me wrong, everything looks fantastic in the new creation system! It's just alack of.. well... excellence.
excellence excellence excellence In 2 days if we make a character, that's it until walking in stations. I mean what are they going to do keep releasing updates for a few months after release? will we have to resculpt our character every 3 weeks? That's stupid, don't release an unfinished product CCP!
this is just like PI all over again. Great interface, cool graphics, neat ideas, excellence and variety out the window for the sake of a release date?
JUST MAKE IT OPTIONAL UNTIL IT"S FINISHED!
More stuff ranting below ----------------------------------------- Come on, I don't want to make my character with the knowledge in mind that you're going to "make it better" later. Then I'll have to make my character over. Why would I make my character more than once?
It's just art assets!
Hell, host an art contest on polycount, that'll get you some art assets fast and for free.
we'll I know CCP won't just listen to me, but hopefully the community can agree, CCP pushing somethign out the door that feels so.... empty of stuff, is lame.
I don't think people would mind if they have a wait 3-4 more weeks just to slap some art assests together. (I'm a 3d artist I know what I'm talking about. I don't understand why the new UI, and the new forums get to be delayed, but not this!
I mean hell! what about some of the faceplates? you could just use the same models from the old character creator! They are untextured see through plastic! hell just give me 4 weeks I'll get you half way there ccp. : (
I'm just getting really disappointed at the lack of communication on this one. There has been no stance fro cp for over a month on what the final state of the creator would be. :(
-mothermoon
but seriously there was never an official statement on pleasure hubs being removed randomly, we are going to lose a huge chuck of what makes eve, eve with this half-assed attempt at a great character creator! it's such a wasted potential! the characters look so good! but now they shop at the gap!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:32:00 -
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OH MY FACE!
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Dante Marcellus
Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:32:00 -
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raaaaaaaaage quit And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK. |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face? _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face?
OH YOURS AND MY FACE!
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:34:00 -
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posting in a "where the **** are the frilly streamers on my metaphorical tricycle?!!?" whine thread
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James Giovanni
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:35:00 -
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Not to mention, the recently revealed CPU issue, it just make sense to delay the whole thing 3-4 weeks.
I don't excellence is pulling the plug on your userbase 2 days before something goes live, this is not enough time for a new 20$ cpu to even get shipped to you in the mail fast enough.
What the **** ccp, why are you pushing this date for hard, slow the hell down. excellence is not pushing as hard as you can, over and over again really fast, just so you can finish as soon as possible.
you have to be gentle and loving with your playerbase. :P
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 17/01/2011 18:38:48
And it doesn't stop there.
One very nice feature of the old creator was how it handled lights and backgrounds. They all seemed to flow together seamlessly. Now it's more like you select the lighting that doesn't totally destroy the avatar portrait and then try and find a background the suits the lighting... that's right, the old lighting created a much more balanced picture. Now you have to throw out eight out of ten backgrounds since they don't really fit the lighting on the characters face.
On top of that, the art assets on accessories are approximately three of each. Three different pants (each color choice does not count as one), three outer jackets and so on...
And while initially the sculpting seems to give a lot of freedom you quickly notice there are many parts where you wish you had control but can't tweak...
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Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: James Giovanni
What the **** ccp, why are you pushing this date for hard, slow the hell down. excellence is not pushing as hard as you can, over and over again really fast, just so you can finish as soon as possible.
you have to be gentle and loving....
that's what she said?
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/01/2011 18:38:17 Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/01/2011 18:37:53
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face?
Some people are better of without one.
Oh....
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 18:41:45
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
good example.
If ccp pushed back the date our faces became final, kinda like a test run on TQ, and they put in a system that let you copy paste a code, that would basically let another player sculpt your character, wouldn't that be great?
WAIT A MINUTE! if we aren't getting the new forums, or the new UI, Or anything else we can do with our new avatar pic, then why are we getting the finalized creator at all! I used to think the release date had to do with the new forums, having new image servers and such, and a new look. but now that's delayed too!
can we least get a ccp reply on if we can redo our faces for free for the next 6 months?
Originally by: Xercodo posting in a "where the **** are the frilly streamers on my metaphorical tricycle?!!?" whine thread
another good example! I have been a minmatar rper for a long time, how would I survive in a world where my slaver enemies don't have those cool visor hoods!
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Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: PTang
Originally by: Xercodo posting in a "where the **** are the frilly streamers on my metaphorical tricycle?!!?" whine thread
another good example! I have been a minmatar rper for a long time, how would I survive in a world where my slaver enemies don't have those cool visor hoods!
on the contrary, i find this damned thing restricts visibility quite a bit...and it makes affectionate physical contact awkward
/me takes it off and punts it across the room
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
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jade ranger
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Deakin Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 17/01/2011 18:38:48
And it doesn't stop there.
One very nice feature of the old creator was how it handled lights and backgrounds. They all seemed to flow together seamlessly. Now it's more like you select the lighting that doesn't totally destroy the avatar portrait and then try and find a background the suits the lighting... that's right, the old lighting created a much more balanced picture. Now you have to throw out eight out of ten backgrounds since they don't really fit the lighting on the characters face.
On top of that, the art assets on accessories are approximately three of each. Three different pants (each color choice does not count as one), three outer jackets and so on...
And while initially the sculpting seems to give a lot of freedom you quickly notice there are many parts where you wish you had control but can't tweak...
It's not ready yet.
I agree with all your points but the pants, we'll never see below the belts, they can delay the art down there as we'll never even see it.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:50:00 -
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I too am much disappoint with the new character creators lack of sculpting and decoration options and the general low resolution of the clothes themselves. Lets just hope they left out the majority of stuff to save on download sizes for the sisi test builds and will 'suprise' us with all the wanted shiney cloths and other stuff that was promised.
But then again this is ccp and their track record on such matters is well known.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: PTang Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
soon(TM) in the RMT store.
implementing these features now would only hurt sales later - after all CCP has to give you a reason for wanting to change your appearance and you being not quite content with what you can achieve with the stock items is a good step in that direction.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Some people are better of without one.
Oh....
TOO SOON
Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Chribba OH MY FACE!
Did someone say face?
OH YOURS AND MY FACE!
we will persevere like manly spacemen (in space) with our new faces
~a poem by chaos incarnate~ _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:56:00 -
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<ragequit> due to <emo reasons> and more <emorage> I now quit with my <RNG+10> accounts! --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2011.01.17 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: jade ranger I agree with all your points but the pants, we'll never see below the belts, they can delay the art down there as we'll never even see it.
Quite true. Shoes/pants whatnot are not essential in creating the portrait at this stage. Perhaps there are few options since it's meant for the players later on to create them by themselves? Or that as the creator is released in parts we'll have the free choice of doing ourselves new once again.
Even when Incarna has been on the drawing table for several years and only kicked in high drive over the last few months CCP is being quite tight lipped about it. Perhaps because so little is ready and they don't want to promise too much what they might not be able to deliver. |
PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 19:01:48 Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 19:00:00
Originally by: Cyaxares II
Originally by: PTang Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
soon(TM) in the RMT store.
implementing these features now would only hurt sales later - after all CCP has to give you a reason for wanting to change your appearance and you being not quite content with what you can achieve with the stock items is a good step in that direction.
ok but see this make no sense fundamentally.
you have to make your character in one go, there has been no proof that it could be possible to go back in and edit ONLY your clothing or hair.
it cost 15$ to redo your avatar. do I have to pay 15$ to redo my face and them an extra 5$ for the costume pieces I want?
It will be impossible to get the exact same face on a 2nd, 3rd try. It's part of the charm of the new creator. Sow hy would ccp force us to redo the face just to get a tattoo on our face in some future release?
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Thaylon Sen
The Boondock Saints
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:09:00 -
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Have to agree with the OP, not enough options :(
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Hesperius
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:10:00 -
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Is this rant based on the content you have seen on the test server or do you work at CCP and know what is being delivered?
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius Is this rant based on the content you have seen on the test server or do you work at CCP and know what is being delivered?
they have never hidden content before. so I could be wrong, but there hasn't been a dev blog to say other wise.
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius Is this rant based on the content you have seen on the test server or do you work at CCP and know what is being delivered?
One could hope that Sisi is just a small glimpse of what's to come tomorrow. But if you look the art CCP has itself created for example on the homescreen flash you see the exact same options / clothes / hair on characters we can currently create. It does not seem there's is more finished content to come in the first release. CCP dev has said that there will more eyewear with later patches. Currently there are only differently tinted aviator glasses. |
K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:28:00 -
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I'm going to sit on my faces until things cool down and the character creator is stabilized.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:29:00 -
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I miss all the "fluff" backgrounds.
Where are my InterBus, pirate faction, CONCORD etc. backgrounds?
And how can I be the CEO of a ruthless Caldari coorporation without my current background?
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:33:00 -
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More time is reasonable. I agree.
Oh wait, I believe they've already been working on Incarna and such for maybe 1 or 2 years now..?
Meh. They can throw it out, w/e, but if there aren't more customizations by the time Incarna comes out... well, there's a testament to CCP's development skills...
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Caldari Citizen2323256
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:40:00 -
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It's new features you dinosaurs. Stop being such dinosaurs!
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Pyrosomniac
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:50:00 -
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They're just saving the cooler clothes and tattoos for when we can walk around and browse clothes shops at will... IN SPACE!!!
Tattoos? Go to a tattoo parlor... IN SPACE!!!
I see a new isk-sink incoming...
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis I miss all the "fluff" backgrounds.
Where are my InterBus, pirate faction, CONCORD etc. backgrounds?
And how can I be the CEO of a ruthless Caldari coorporation without my current background?
just like pleasure hubs, it has to do with eve lore, ccp doesn't want it because it's old I guess? Or they don't think it's important to have things thatv relate to the game in the character creator?
I will miss my bunny : (
-mothermmon
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: K'uata Sayus I'm going to sit on my faces until things cool down and the character creator is stabilized.
As kinky as it sounds, this.
Not going to say, I told you so...... ahhh who am I kidding.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 19:57:17 Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 19:56:27
Originally by: Caldari Citizen2323256 It's new features you dinosaurs. Stop being such dinosaurs!
I am all for new features! yay new features!
But it's a new feature that can not be updated ebcause we are not allowed to just redo our characters, so there is 0 chance for a content patch.
what they release, is what we get.
end of story, say goodbye to all the old tattoos, art, piercings, hats, costumes, and eve related backgrounds.
I WANT the character ceator, I want it back, so BAD. but not if it's empty, It's a system that can't be easily adjusted. They have one shot at this. Why should I have to redo my character once tattoos are out in 6 months? :(
Originally by: Pyrosomniac They're just saving the cooler clothes and tattoos for when we can walk around and browse clothes shops at will... IN SPACE!!!
Tattoos? Go to a tattoo parlor... IN SPACE!!!
I see a new isk-sink incoming...
you hit the heart of the issue. No one at ccp has said anything of the sort.
Any thing about incanra is apparently top secret.
an expansion coming out in SIX MONTHS, is under NDA.
so please stop assuming things, you're point isn't based off of anything anyone at ccp has ever said.
if ccp just confirmed a few things, there would be no reason for this thread!
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.01.17 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: PTang Come on, I don't want to make my character with the knowledge in mind that you're going to "make it better" later. Then I'll have to make my character over. Why would I make my character more than once?
This does hit the nail on the head.
And one wouldn't put it past them to update the character creator without allowing people to update their image unless they pay.
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Stray Bullets
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.17 20:05:00 -
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Well, I'll build my char as I did every single one before it .... hit random until an ugly enough bastard comes up!
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Solar Nexus. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2011.01.17 20:27:00 -
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CCP releasing unfinished and buggy content? This is indeed shocking news. I do thank you for bringing this very unknown and startling development to light. ::sarcasm::
Also Excellence was last years motto. We need to wait for them to release their 2011 slogan, however for how much crap they've gotten about excellence I doubt they will.
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Teranul
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Posted - 2011.01.17 20:46:00 -
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For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2011.01.17 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis I miss all the "fluff" backgrounds.
Where are my InterBus, pirate faction, CONCORD etc. backgrounds?
And how can I be the CEO of a ruthless Caldari coorporation without my current background?
Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh? Think, McFly. Think!
Microtransactions.
We get crud and are allowed to buy options later.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |
PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Teranul For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
then why will they still currently make you pay 15$ if you want to right now? why not get rid of it. why roll out a whole new tech platform for delivering portraits in game and on forums to just throw it away in a month.
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Moolti
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Moolti on 17/01/2011 21:08:30
Originally by: Teranul For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
For the record there is Zero evidence CCP has a way to preserve a character without having to recreate form scratch. In fact this functionality has been asked for many times since the new creator hit the test server.
@)}---^----- The Jove are a warning to us all. We must remember to live and Love and feel. Fall in Love, make Love, be beautful and see the beautiful. For we mustn't loose our human spark |
Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Freyya on 17/01/2011 21:16:18 No it's not ready, but as has been said before, you really think tattoo's and stuff like that arn't already on the shelf? It's just a texture map added. Nothing more, nothing less. Well perhaps a bit more but you get my point.
Point is also however; People need something to do when incarna hits. Why would anyone go to a Tattoo parlor? Or maybe a hair dresser? Or perhaps a high fashion boutique or even plastic surgeon when they have already adjusted their avatar to their liking at release of the character building?
CCP needs a reason to implement MT's, saving all the extra fluff for plex vs. fluff on your face and body is the only thing that makes sense. I do wish very hard that the release CC will have adjustable skull/eye/mouth/ears in a bigger detail than it has now but that's like hoping hell freezes over while it's summer in december, and easter + the 4th of july fall on the same day.
Originally by: Moolti Edited by: Moolti on 17/01/2011 21:08:30
Originally by: Teranul For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
For the record there is Zero evidence CCP has a way to preserve a character without having to recreate form scratch. In fact this functionality has been asked for many times since the new creator hit the test server.
Now the above is something I can understand CCP will have a hard time doing. The old character creator works completely different as to the new one I can imagine pretty darn well. Translating jaw height or width from abc to 29981sjkd0s83kjd93h30s might just be 2 bridges too far in regards to available processing power and server time allocated. You really think it's easy to go (for example) from directx7 to directx11?? It's an almost completely different language sort of speak...Saving from DX11 to import back to DX11 later is something ALOT easier i'd imagine, don't you? ___________
NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth Pink is the color of passion xxx Shadow |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:15:00 -
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Is it OK to not give a tinker's cuss about the character creator?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
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Pookie McPook
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Pookie McPook on 17/01/2011 21:23:24 Broadly in agreement with the OP. The new character creator is way too heavy on resources and will result in a veritable ragefest on the forums tomorrow from people who can't model their character at all. Others will complain that there is not sufficient differentiation between the races, others again that certain racial signatures such as hoods, tatoos, cyborg bits and bobs etc etc aren't available, and still others that the clothing options are pitiable.
These have been constant gripes on the Test server forum for months from a player base approximately 0.6% that of the live server. I can't begin to imagine the furore that is going to occur tomorrow, and more still when the great majority of uninformed players find out that their choices will form the basis for their avatar when Incarna is finally released.
Unless CCP has an entire creation module up their sleeve which hasn't seen the light of day on SiSi I fear that they are about to alienate a large proportion of their players tomorrow. -----
Marmite. Rocket fuel of champions. |
PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 21:31:32
Quote: others again that certain racial signatures such as hoods, tatoos, cyborg bits and bobs etc etc aren't available
just to be clear this is my main issue. I think the races look as different as races look different in real life.
It's just adding random stuff is the EASIEST thing to do in the world. I'm an animator/modeler, I'm not just talking like someone that thinks he knows what he is talking about.
it's purely art, even simple tattoos for now would be an improvement. (I know they want the super APB tattoo engine, they said that 3 years ago at fanfest)
but there could be at least 4 tattoos you couldn't move around the face.
and some other little things that would take little time to finish! 10 artist workign for 4 more weeks could finish a lot of little things. (gas masks, visors)
there are just some very big thigns that define some races missing.
just LIKE HOW THEY REMOVED PLEASURE HUBS4 years ago! and they said they would start with a small number of stations and just make some more later. but that production would go faster on new station environments.
WHERE IS THE PLEASURE HUB CCP!
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Terazul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Moolti Edited by: Moolti on 17/01/2011 21:08:30
Originally by: Teranul For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
For the record there is Zero evidence CCP has a way to preserve a character without having to recreate form scratch. In fact this functionality has been asked for many times since the new creator hit the test server.
LOL FAIL.
Seriously, use your damn brain. I shouldn't have to do the thinking for you.
Connect the dots.
You're going to be walking in stations with these avatars. Somehow, the game has to know exactly how you look every time you log into the station with your avatar. Therefore, with this BLINDINGLY SIMPLE LOGIC, we can only conclude that they save the information somewhere server-side.
Again, because it apparently MUST be restated
Character is used in walking in stations -> character data must be saved in order for the character to be used in stations -> character data is stored server-side -> that same character data can be drawn from for editing the character later.
Very simple. I didn't even have to use anything other than arrows. How 'bout that?
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.17 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Terazul
Originally by: Moolti Edited by: Moolti on 17/01/2011 21:08:30
Originally by: Teranul For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
For the record there is Zero evidence CCP has a way to preserve a character without having to recreate form scratch. In fact this functionality has been asked for many times since the new creator hit the test server.
LOL FAIL.
Seriously, use your damn brain. I shouldn't have to do the thinking for you.
Connect the dots.
You're going to be walking in stations with these avatars. Somehow, the game has to know exactly how you look every time you log into the station with your avatar. Therefore, with this BLINDINGLY SIMPLE LOGIC, we can only conclude that they save the information somewhere server-side.
Again, because it apparently MUST be restated
Character is used in walking in stations -> character data must be saved in order for the character to be used in stations -> character data is stored server-side -> that same character data can be drawn from for editing the character later.
Very simple. I didn't even have to use anything other than arrows. How 'bout that?
And the trolling begins!
also: 2/10 for having to resort to petty insults. True trolls can get reactions without being complete *******s.
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Terazul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate And the trolling begins!
also: 2/10 for having to resort to petty insults. True trolls can get reactions without being complete *******s.
If correcting peoples' obvious inability to use simple logic is now trolling, the human race is clearly doomed.
Not that that was ever in doubt.
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Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pookie McPook Edited by: Pookie McPook on 17/01/2011 21:23:24 Broadly in agreement with the OP. The new character creator is way too heavy on resources and will result in a veritable ragefest on the forums tomorrow from people who can't model their character at all. Others will complain that there is not sufficient differentiation between the races, others again that certain racial signatures such as hoods, tatoos, cyborg bits and bobs etc etc aren't available, and still others that the clothing options are pitiable.
Unless CCP has an entire creation module up their sleeve which hasn't seen the light of day on SiSi I fear that they are about to alienate a large proportion of their players tomorrow.
According to one of the ISD folk in the help channel, supposedly there will be a grace period before we are required to redo our characters. At the very least, hopefully they'll make that period last until Incarna is released, since at the moment there is absolutely no point in the new avatars beyond giving five seconds of "shiny" for those with sufficiently powerful computers to run the game at high settings. Requiring us to make new characters immediately on patch day would be like giving the finger to anyone without the means to go out and upgrade their computers, or buy new ones for those of us who are restricted to using laptops.
For example, this computer runs EVE just fine on minimum settings. I'm satisfied with the way EVE runs on this computer. Eventually I'll pick up something that can run EVE with high shaders, but until then, this machine is perfectly fine for shooting rats and other players. However, the new character creator is functionally unusable on this machine, since it was never designed to be run with anything except high settings. On low settings, the character generator looks like something that belongs on the PSX. It would be akin to comparing a rusted bicycle with the F22. You're not even comparing the same products. So I'd be screwing around with a fairly hideous character model, which would in either case look nothing like the final rendering.
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Anne Arqui
Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past
Originally by: PTang Come on, I don't want to make my character with the knowledge in mind that you're going to "make it better" later. Then I'll have to make my character over. Why would I make my character more than once?
This does hit the nail on the head.
And one wouldn't put it past them to update the character creator without allowing people to update their image unless they pay.
I funny support this thread!
* A lot of options are gone, not only visors, masks, tattoos but also a few very nice hairstyles and colours. As it is now, we'll see every character walk around with one of the 3 or 4 viable hairstyles; * No height diffrences? * Unasked racial changes. Norticably Vherokior look EXTREMELY asian now, and we have no option to chenge eyes or bloodline.
How can CCP call this excellence?
I wouldn¦t mind if they¦d postpone the launch and release it with the next expansion, but with full options. I¦d rather have them release no editor than one that puts me back several steps, options-wise.
Look at the test server feedback, so many comments and so little feedback from the devs.
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Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Katsuko
For example, this computer runs EVE just fine on minimum settings. I'm satisfied with the way EVE runs on this computer. Eventually I'll pick up something that can run EVE with high shaders, but until then, this machine is perfectly fine for shooting rats and other players. However, the new character creator is functionally unusable on this machine, since it was never designed to be run with anything except high settings. On low settings, the character generator looks like something that belongs on the PSX. It would be akin to comparing a rusted bicycle with the F22. You're not even comparing the same products. So I'd be screwing around with a fairly hideous character model, which would in either case look nothing like the final rendering.
I can't quite tell here if you already know or not, but your final character will be rendered sever side with all maxed settings. If what your saying is that you don't like the fact that the character your messing with has no where near the resolution of the final, well then suck it up, be happy that they are even doing the server-side render thing at all.
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Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:53:00 -
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The final version is rendered server-side, but the model you're working with in the character generator is rendered locally. Unless the character generator provides a 'preview' render from the server after every modification, you won't have a good idea what the character you're working on will look like until the final render. The problem is with the character generator, not with the final render.
Don't get me wrong. The new character models are gorgeous, if perhaps a bit lacking in the clothing and accessory department, unless more are added with the final patch tomorrow. But you need good hardware to take advantage of the new character generator. The longer CCP waits before requiring that we remake character portraits, the fewer players there'll be who are stuck with outdated hardware. Am not about to threaten to quit or somesuch over the damn thing.
As far as being grateful, I'm paying CCP just under $15 a month for this game. I suppose we could be dealing with Gravity Corp, which had a habit of routinely releasing alpha- and beta-stage content and taking months to fix it while charging a monthly fee for the privilege, but getting good content is hardly anything to be 'grateful' for. It's like being grateful that the milk at the local supermarket hasn't gone sour. In this case they seem to have a fairly nice content update.
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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.01.17 22:57:00 -
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Gotta agree, the character creator just isn't ready. ____________________________________________
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Borealis Nebulae
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Borealis Nebulae on 17/01/2011 23:02:58 nm...
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Gitzela
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:07:00 -
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CCP stated they want to sell some items for cash. This might actually be it.
You want new tattoo.. No problem. Your clothes seems boring ... buy new one... New hairstyle ... there you go.
The only features that will probably be locked are "core appearance". Ant there I am missing probably only height modifier.
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: PTang The old character creator just has more stuff.
Impressive. I knew people would eventually start saying that the old character creator was better, but this is way sooner than I expected. |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Swidgen
Originally by: PTang The old character creator just has more stuff.
Impressive. I knew people would eventually start saying that the old character creator was better, but this is way sooner than I expected.
He is not saying that it is 'better' only that it has more stuff. Cool face creation mechanics won't mean much if everyone is walking around in the same few sets of clothes and hairstyles.
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Olleybear
Minmatar I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:44:00 -
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I to was surprised at the lack of options with the Character Creator on the test server. I was left wanting to do more to my character to make him unique. Then I realized how this can fit into CCPs goal of microtransactions and/or added player created content later. I believe a little bit of patience is a benefit here.
For example, some people may like to design their own clothing in game to sell to other people. Your not going to be all that interested in getting new clothing if you already have your character looking exactly how you want them to look after the initial creation are you? If having players design clothing simply isn't doable code wise, clothing then falls into the possibility of microtransactions. CCP could setup microtransactions for a new coat their art department created for instance.
Tatoos, obviously, is another avenue for either player created content or microtransaction content.
By initially limiting what comes out on this iteration of the character creator, it leaves open any number of possibilities for future content. It also creates a desire in the player to want their character to be unique in game. From a business perspective, this can be a very good thing for revenue of microtransactions are the goal.
Personally, if microtransactions become a reality, I want a pink rupture with a fuzzy carebear on both sides that can be destroyed when I lose it in pvp.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Terazul
Character is used in walking in stations -> character data must be saved in order for the character to be used in stations -> character data is stored server-side -> that same character data can be drawn from for editing the character later.
Very simple. I didn't even have to use anything other than arrows. How 'bout that?
then why can't they do it yet?
and no is talking about walking in stations, were talking about our forums portraits, our in game little picture.
that cost 15 to change, and that is fact. They won't let the whole playerbase do it for free every 3 months as they release new updates.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.17 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 17/01/2011 23:59:01
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Swidgen
Originally by: PTang The old character creator just has more stuff.
Impressive. I knew people would eventually start saying that the old character creator was better, but this is way sooner than I expected.
He is not saying that it is 'better' only that it has more stuff. Cool face creation mechanics won't mean much if everyone is walking around in the same few sets of clothes and hairstyles.
exactly, thank you.
new character creator is the best for any mmo ever made. But it's lacking not only content in general, but EVE ONLINE themed content. content that makes minmatar, minmatar, and so on.
the ammar hood was like a random last second add-on.
edit:let me make sure everyone knows, all of the hair, and clothes that are in the new creator are AMAZING. And I'm all for reinventing the looks, but as it stands, they didn't reinvent minmatar only hair/tattoos, they just left it out completely.
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Teranul
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Posted - 2011.01.18 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: PTang then why can't they do it yet?
and no is talking about walking in stations, were talking about our forums portraits, our in game little picture.
that cost 15 to change, and that is fact. They won't let the whole playerbase do it for free every 3 months as they release new updates.
Oh, ye of little faith...
Originally by: CCP Caedmon
On the topic of more options, we really wanted to have tattoos out in this release but for various reasons we had to postpone them. Work is now underway to get tattoos as well as scars, piercings and more glasses in the game. In the next release we plan to introduce the option to re-customize your character from within the game to take advantage of all the new options. Expect to see more and more options coming in future releases. We have a lot of things we would love to see and we will be using feedback from this and other threads to help us make decisions on what we put in and when.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.01.18 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: PTang on 18/01/2011 00:12:26 um.. update somewhere at some time CCP already addressed my concerns.
where si the quote?
I have no clue, but apparently it's confirmed that they are developing an ingame way to change your character. soo.. huzzah!?!
and no I don't players assumptions as word.
to T above me. It's not little faith, it's being part of the game for 6 years, and seeing what happens to player assumptions about what devs will do.
COSMOS anyone? yeah, that's right I'm still wondering when my cosmos missions will be expanded on. :P
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:42:00 -
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2 words.
Micro-Transactions.
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Daan Sai
Polytrope
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Posted - 2011.01.18 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mothermoon
WHERE IS THE PLEASURE HUB CCP!
Sadly, rumoured to have been sacrificed to get the ESRB teen rating and placate puritanical US box set distributors. Very sad. The default Gallente station environ is just dreary and cold - and very very boring.
--------------------------------- Internet Submarines is Serious Business ---------------------------------
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.18 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: James Giovanni Not to mention, the recently revealed CPU issue,
Hold on...trying to find out what this CPU "issue" is...
OH! You mean the game improvements made that made decade old CPU's even more obsolete and no longer useable? Right...NOT an issue. Time to get a PC that wasn't designed to play PONG.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar JOKAS Industries Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 04:18:00 -
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I want my Sebiester hair lock in the new char creator damnit.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dodgy Past on 18/01/2011 10:38:20 Edited by: Dodgy Past on 18/01/2011 10:37:25
Originally by: Olleybear I to was surprised at the lack of options with the Character Creator on the test server. I was left wanting to do more to my character to make him unique. Then I realized how this can fit into CCPs goal of microtransactions and/or added player created content later. I believe a little bit of patience is a benefit here.
For example, some people may like to design their own clothing in game to sell to other people. Your not going to be all that interested in getting new clothing if you already have your character looking exactly how you want them to look after the initial creation are you? If having players design clothing simply isn't doable code wise, clothing then falls into the possibility of microtransactions. CCP could setup microtransactions for a new coat their art department created for instance.
Tatoos, obviously, is another avenue for either player created content or microtransaction content.
By initially limiting what comes out on this iteration of the character creator, it leaves open any number of possibilities for future content. It also creates a desire in the player to want their character to be unique in game. From a business perspective, this can be a very good thing for revenue of microtransactions are the goal.
Personally, if microtransactions become a reality, I want a pink rupture with a fuzzy carebear on both sides that can be destroyed when I lose it in pvp.
CCP are feeling confident enough about the last ****storm being forgotten that they're ready to remove features and then sell them back to us for more money?
This is going to be a great way to make sure that all those were ambivalent regarding Incarna rapidly become anti.
I'm also predicting that most people will be without a face for a long time while bugs are worked out.
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Gith Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:48:00 -
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i might be wrong but, sisi isnt the final build, they could have many other backgrounds ready for release (they are just tiny textures that can be swapped out easily.)
As for the face masks and tattoos, yeah i cant imagine them not being in the sisi build for testing, hopfully they release them sometime soon. There does seem to be a trend with the new graphics, where certain things get axed... Look at the cyno effects (terrible now), and the engine trails! Theres many things in the game that have been removed for virtually no reason, other then lazyness... lets hope that someone in CCP takes up the cause and brings some of this back!
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Sam Mustian
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:52:00 -
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Can I still shoot internet space ships?
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Cyaxares II on 18/01/2011 11:07:02
Originally by: Moolti
Originally by: Teranul For the record, there is zero evidence to suggest that you would have to remake your character entirely from scratch when they do add the ability to edit your avatar down the line for new features (which I do not believe the conspiracy theorists on when they say it will be for real money... you chumps). That data is obviously stored somewhere, and it will obviously be called back up in its exact form when you go into the editor.
To assume they can't do something as stupidly basic as saving your damn character model when they HAVE to recall that data somehow is... um... stupid.
Seriously. What?
For the record there is Zero evidence CCP has a way to preserve a character without having to recreate form scratch. In fact this functionality has been asked for many times since the new creator hit the test server.
How do you think the server-side renderer receives the information how your character is supposed to look like?
hint: your client does not upload a screenshot of your character to the server that is then brushed up with magic Photoshop skills.
How hard would it be for the portrait server to save a backup of the raw data underlying your character portrait?
imagine there turns out to be a bug with the rendering technology and a number of portraits have to be recreated (tbh I almost expect this to happen), imagine CCP wants to increase the resolution of character portraits at some later point, ... would it make sense to ask your users to recreate their characters from scratch in these cases?
it would be downright stupid for CCP not to keep a backup of the raw data your created using the character creator.
It's just not easy to build a good UI other than the preview of your character for transcribing/importing/modifying that data as there are too many datapoints that can be changed (can't capture the look of the character by writing down the values of 5 sliders).
edit: actually I seem to recall that our portraits were re-rendered for EVE Gate so at least in the old system CCP did store your character portrait's raw data.
edit2: Linkage so why exactly do you think CCP would change away from what it has been doing all the time?
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:06:00 -
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Current characters will have a grace period before having to commit to a new character avatar and portrait. During this grace period you can take your time on updating your new avatar and portrait to suit your tastes. Once this grace period is over all characters will be forced to create a new and updated character portrait and avatar during the login process. A final date for the end of this grace period will be announced later. Stay tuned to the MOTD and news for more information.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Gith Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 18/01/2011 11:07:12 before today's patch, your character's facial features were stored seperate from the actual rendered image. How do i know? Because i've seen many faces rendered incorrently on occasion, suggesting that when your cache is cleared, your face needs to be re-rendered by your local client.
I present to you, my character's face, on crack: And this is what he looks like when he's sober: Is much less racist-looking
I've also seen people on my watchlist be rendered with just the eyes on occasion, fixing over time after the cache is flushed. also, theoretically, these new avatars are the beginning of incarna/walking-in-stations, im sure they are saving the settings so that your character can be used for when that time comes. Perhaps they will even allow for you to visit a tattoo parlor and get those tattoos you've been missing =P
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Ivor Bucket
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Posted - 2011.01.18 11:08:00 -
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Was worried they'd remove the amarr hoods so checked on si-si this morning, they're still there thankfully.
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:10:00 -
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To be honest the only annoyance I've got with the new character generator is a lack of dresses & skirts for female characters. Which is annoying as one of their tech demo video's is a cloth simulation of a dress.
Still I expect they'll be added in at some point, either for MT's or as a freebie for Incarna.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire Current characters will have a grace period before having to commit to a new character avatar and portrait. During this grace period you can take your time on updating your new avatar and portrait to suit your tastes.
Not having been able to check Sisi for about a month, since there haven't been any patches, how and where will we find the button/menu/dead-chicken-waving-pattern that leads us back to the character designer? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Current characters will have a grace period before having to commit to a new character avatar and portrait. During this grace period you can take your time on updating your new avatar and portrait to suit your tastes.
Not having been able to check Sisi for about a month, since there haven't been any patches, how and where will we find the button/menu/dead-chicken-waving-pattern that leads us back to the character designer?
There is none.
However, you're asked when you try to login a character if you want to create a new one, decline this, and you will be able to log into EVE, and you'll be asked again the next time. Rinse repeat until they hopefully add enough content to make it not feel like a beta test for WoD.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis There is none.
However, you're asked when you try to login a character if you want to create a new one, decline this, and you will be able to log into EVE, and you'll be asked again the next time. Rinse repeat until they hopefully add enough content to make it not feel like a beta test for WoD.
àbut that's not what he's saying. The claim here seems to be that we'll be able to create a character and then go back and tweak it for a time ù otherwise, we're not exactly taking our time on updating our character. We're only delaying the recreation, we're screwed if we make a single mistake, and it has done in one sittingà
I know what you're describing ù that's how it worked during the time when we actually got patches for the latest sisi builds ù but calling that a mechanism that lets you take your time to update your character to suit your taste is a gross misdirection of what we'll be able to (and will have to) do. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Gibbo5771
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:32:00 -
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Tattoos...clothes....seriously get a grip.
Its a spaceship game, this content is just icing on the cake to make it more appealing to a larger database of players, make an avatar you like and get the fuk over it.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Skippermonkey on 18/01/2011 13:34:34
Originally by: PTang The current creator has had a bunch of hair styles removed from the older builds. It has a lack of face implants, scars, tattoos, and clothing. Where is my minmatar gas mask? my gallente face plate?
I hope this quenches your anger
Originally by: CCP Zulu Devblog Virtual goods sales in EVE Online will evolve through sales of vanity items, first in Incarna but later in-space features. The scope will be (and thereæs no design has been done around this, weære just talking strategy now) that anything that doesnæt affect gameplay directly can be, potentially, sold for PLEX or other means. Ideas that have come up include Incarna clothing and furniture, logos on spaceships and swapping out portraits. This is by no means a comprehensive list, nor is it a commitment that said items will be available for sale, I mention these as an example for what type of items weære thinking about.
I hope you are ready to start paying dollar for your pretty little dresses and the tassles for your tricycle
You're waiting for an ibis, an ibis that will take you far away. You know where you hope this ibis will take you, but you can't be sure. But it doesn't matter - because we'll be together. |
Stitcher
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:37:00 -
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There sure is a lot of whine in this thread.
have something to go with it: http://foodiestop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cheese-and-wine.jpg -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Anne Arqui
Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:38:00 -
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CCP can we have a bloodline change for PLEX?
Please? Please?? Please???
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Skippermonkey I hope you are ready to start paying dollar for your pretty little dresses and the tassles for your tricycle
Screw the tassels. Just name the price of that tricycle ù I'ma gonna get me one of those instantly! ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: PTang JUST MAKE IT OPTIONAL
US MUST EAT CHEEZBURGER. WITHOUT CHEEZE.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Pohbis There is none.
However, you're asked when you try to login a character if you want to create a new one, decline this, and you will be able to log into EVE, and you'll be asked again the next time. Rinse repeat until they hopefully add enough content to make it not feel like a beta test for WoD.
àbut that's not what he's saying. The claim here seems to be that we'll be able to create a character and then go back and tweak it for a time ù otherwise, we're not exactly taking our time on updating our character. We're only delaying the recreation, we're screwed if we make a single mistake, and it has done in one sittingà
I know what you're describing ù that's how it worked during the time when we actually got patches for the latest sisi builds ù but calling that a mechanism that lets you take your time to update your character to suit your taste is a gross misdirection of what we'll be able to (and will have to) do.
Hello Tippia,
Just wanted to let you know that I perfectly understand your concerns and have asked for some additional information on the subject. Will post an update here as soon as I have it.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire Hello Tippia,
Just wanted to let you know that I perfectly understand your concerns and have asked for some additional information on the subject. Will post an update here as soon as I have it.
Thank you.
Now, I understand that, in time, we'll be able to go back and make changes ù otherwise, you wouldn't be able to sell us any MT-purchased hats and True Sansha Chaps, now would youà
àbut the question is when that will happen ù if it's not now, that grace period is rather wasted because it's still a one-shot deal for the time being, and we have to pay (later, and literally) for our mistakes. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:10:00 -
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That would be nice Spitfire.
From what I gleaned from SiSi posts, we all have ONE shot at this and then we¦ll again have to live with it. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lillith Starfire on 18/01/2011 14:12:46 Grace period could be interpreted in two ways
1) You will have X number of days using your old picture before you must change it with the character creator (one shot change)
2) You have X number of days during which time you can keep adjusting your character (multiple changes until deadline)
3) It's HOW BIG?!
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:12:00 -
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Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
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Bestor Triol
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
No.. Hats and other vanity items are set to be between 200 and 400 uPLEX each.
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Rosalina Sarinna
Royal Guardsmen
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:31:00 -
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From what has been said up until this point, I assumed that after creatign our char, we would be able to re-enter creation when there were new updates (like hats, glasses, clothes) etc. If this is not correct I'd certainly like to know about it, then I can choose not to recreate my Avatar yet, and wait for some updates.
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bestor Triol
Originally by: Captain Pompous Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
No.. Hats and other vanity items are set to be between 200 and 400 uPLEX each.
I can has blog post or dev quote about micro transactions?
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire Hello Tippia,
Just wanted to let you know that I perfectly understand your concerns and have asked for some additional information on the subject. Will post an update here as soon as I have it.
It's not that this (and a lot of other issues) hasn't been mentioned multiple times in the feedback thread already .. do you guys even read them?
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2011.01.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Bestor Triol
Originally by: Captain Pompous Do the new Gallente models have sneeze-guards, as modelled very fetchingly by yours truly?
No.. Hats and other vanity items are set to be between 200 and 400 uPLEX each.
How the hell much is a uPLEX worth? A millionth of a PLEX? ---
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