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Maverick2011
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Posted - 2011.04.04 04:27:00 -
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You know what... I think im starting to fall in love with Felicity Blossom. Not only she's cute she also has a strong personality it kinda makes me want to meet her in RL.
You guys think i have a chance with her?
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beast rage
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Posted - 2011.04.04 12:08:00 -
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the moral "high horse" i ride has me as a respected member of my community. i am trusted and relied upon. the truth is still as i said earlier if you enjoy immoral actions ingame but do not engage in such actions in rl. your a coward and whatever maybe said to the contrary is just a person lying to themselves which is a very dangerous thing to do from a psychological point of view. nothing can be said that would change that. i am sorry if other dont agree but it is a basic truth. as for "carebears" lol well it would be interesting to see how eve would run without them as so much depends on fools training skills to mine and build ships mods and rigs and producing said items. sorta reminds me of idiots who say they dont know why they need farmers as they eat a sandwich and drink a glass of orange juice lmao
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: beast rage the moral "high horse" i ride has me as a respected member of my community. i am trusted and relied upon. the truth is still as i said earlier if you enjoy immoral actions ingame but do not engage in such actions in rl. your a coward
Wait wait wait, so because I choose to play a villain in a game, but am a respectable and productive member in the real world I'm suddenly a coward and something is wrong with me.
This just keeps getting better, can you not even see how completely pants-on-head ******ed your reasoning is?
Also, in EVE, I think you will find people regularly trust me with billions and billions of isk in prizes, join up in mixed fleets with people that would otherwise shoot them in the face and generally trust me.
This is because I am, in fact, a very trustworthy person that keeps his word.
You just don't agree with my chosen in-game profession, and because you are too weak to do anything about it using in-game means, you have to rely on trying to villify my (and other people's) real life persona in a flailing attempt to bolster your own failing ego.
Perhaps you will eventually come to understand this truth.
Until that time, you're just a pathetic sore loser.
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lordlulzs
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:31:00 -
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The players of EvE is merely one small subset of the entire human population that should not reproduce.
Myself included.
Ignorance is the difference in others in that I know I should not reproduce, yet others believe they should.
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Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: beast rage the moral "high horse" i ride has me as a respected member of my community. i am trusted and relied upon.
Interesting. This is true of me as well. And since we have yet to agree what exactly constitutes immoral behavior in a PvP game, I guess I have nothing more to say at this time. ---
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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R3V3L
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Posted - 2011.04.04 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: beast rage the moral "high horse" i ride has me as a respected member of my community. i am trusted and relied upon. the truth is still as i said earlier if you enjoy immoral actions ingame but do not engage in such actions in rl. your a coward and whatever maybe said to the contrary is just a person lying to themselves which is a very dangerous thing to do from a psychological point of view. nothing can be said that would change that. i am sorry if other dont agree but it is a basic truth. as for "carebears" lol well it would be interesting to see how eve would run without them as so much depends on fools training skills to mine and build ships mods and rigs and producing said items. sorta reminds me of idiots who say they dont know why they need farmers as they eat a sandwich and drink a glass of orange juice lmao
Hey beast rage quit, people like you are the reason I play this game. My actions in internet space ships have nothing to do with my moral standing in RL. It's a profession in Eve so get over it or go play WOW.
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Ezekeil Rage
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Posted - 2011.04.04 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: beast rage the moral "high horse" i ride has me as a respected member of my community. i am trusted and relied upon. the truth is still as i said earlier if you enjoy immoral actions ingame but do not engage in such actions in rl. your a coward and whatever maybe said to the contrary is just a person lying to themselves which is a very dangerous thing to do from a psychological point of view. nothing can be said that would change that. i am sorry if other dont agree but it is a basic truth. as for "carebears" lol well it would be interesting to see how eve would run without them as so much depends on fools training skills to mine and build ships mods and rigs and producing said items. sorta reminds me of idiots who say they dont know why they need farmers as they eat a sandwich and drink a glass of orange juice lmao
Pop-psych posts of faux-inteligencias full of grammatical errors never cease to cause me much amusement. ------------------------------------------------------ Shadow-war - you should click this link |
Milken Gekko
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Posted - 2011.04.04 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Milken Gekko on 04/04/2011 20:03:12
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: beast rage the moral "high horse" i ride has me as a respected member of my community. i am trusted and relied upon. the truth is still as i said earlier if you enjoy immoral actions ingame but do not engage in such actions in rl. your a coward
Wait wait wait, so because I choose to play a villain in a game, but am a respectable and productive member in the real world I'm suddenly a coward and something is wrong with me.
This just keeps getting better, can you not even see how completely pants-on-head ******ed your reasoning is?
Also, in EVE, I think you will find people regularly trust me with billions and billions of isk in prizes, join up in mixed fleets with people that would otherwise shoot them in the face and generally trust me.
This is because I am, in fact, a very trustworthy person that keeps his word.
You just don't agree with my chosen in-game profession, and because you are too weak to do anything about it using in-game means, you have to rely on trying to villify my (and other people's) real life persona in a flailing attempt to bolster your own failing ego.
Perhaps you will eventually come to understand this truth.
Until that time, you're just a pathetic sore loser.
That's a very impressive e-peen... for a girl. I bet you have personal online pets to stroke it for you.
And for the guy pointing out grammatical errors, it is spelled "inteligentsia" you moron.
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Ezekeil Rage
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Posted - 2011.04.04 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ezekeil Rage on 04/04/2011 20:38:00
Originally by: Milken Gekko
And for the guy pointing out grammatical errors, it is spelled "inteligentsia" you moron.
Should I have used italics to indicate the use of a foreign language? Though, the term you indicated is equally appropriate. Either way, I don't pretend to be above mistakes and foibles, and am even able to amuse myself.
p.s. - World is big! ------------------------------------------------------ Shadow-war - you should click this link |
beast rage
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Posted - 2011.04.04 21:06:00 -
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yeah sorry bout the errors but it doesn't change the message. as for wow well i have never tried it. i am still new to computers and the internet lol but in my life i have seen people do a lot of very bad things to each other. some i have even done myself. but i always try to remember these are people too and i ask that all try to keep the same in mind. as for the guy talking like the teacher all i can say is thank goodness for spell-check or you could comment on the spelling too :)
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Milken Gekko
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Posted - 2011.04.04 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Milken Gekko on 04/04/2011 21:16:06
Since you're such a good sport about it, I'm sorry I called you a moron.
Might I suggest that maybe you abstain yourself from pointing out grammatical errors in a foreign language... Something tells me it will most likely backfire in your face everytime
Also, obvious alt was obvious.
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Kakihara Sama
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Posted - 2011.04.05 06:25:00 -
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When your favorite football player leaves to play for your arch rival team, are you the sort of person who grumbles a bit, or the type who has a few too many and yells that he should be hanged? It's just a game, and it's not all of life. I would bet that some of you ranting on morality find rabid sporting fans to be laughable right? Maybe it's time for some perspective.
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.05 06:44:00 -
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So many people in this thread have difficulty distinguishing between real life and a video game.
There is nothing immoral about me blowing up your space pixels, no matter how much you dislike it. Eve is just a game, and it will never be more than a game. If you have trouble understanding this, you need to go see a psychiatrist.
Stop taking this game so seriously. ______
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Nathanael Lemmont
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Posted - 2011.04.05 09:03:00 -
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There is a difference between real life and EVE.
Now, being a jerk in space doesn't make you a jerk IRL. But it DOES make you a jerk in space. If you pod me for no reason, you are absolutely a terrible, awful person - in EVE. And in EVE, I have the right to call you a morally bankrupt monster, because you are.
This doesn't make you a real-life sociopath, of course. My character just thinks that your character is.
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Nathanael Lemmont
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Posted - 2011.04.05 09:19:00 -
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One thing I will disagree with, though, is the assertion that one is always alone in EVE, and friendship and decency are impossible.
While it may be prudent sometimes to imagine that that's the case, that's not how everybody plays. Not everybody wants to be a testosterone-fueled amoral badass in low sec. Different play styles, friends. They're O.K. sometimes.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.04.05 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nathanael Lemmont One thing I will disagree with, though, is the assertion that one is always alone in EVE, and friendship and decency are impossible.
I quite agree with this, I'd have stopped playing long ago if I did not have such lovely friends in game.
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Iam Widdershins
FODT
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Posted - 2011.05.01 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Nathanael Lemmont One thing I will disagree with, though, is the assertion that one is always alone in EVE, and friendship and decency are impossible.
I quite agree with this, I'd have stopped playing long ago if I did not have such lovely friends in game.
True. I have a shortlist of people I trust implicitly with any and all in-game assets and intel, and the game would be much harder without them.
That said, I guess I should just admit that I am an internet spaceship sociopath.
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MadJim
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Posted - 2011.05.01 16:28:00 -
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Kind of difficult to bring anything new to a 16 page thread but here goes.
My code of behavior in Eve is mine, and mine alone. I have no expectations whatever as to anyone else's code of behavior. It is, and belongs to be, theres alone.
Expectations are what get us. If I expect the worst then the worst that can happen is what I expected to happen. Anything better is just a pleasant surprise.
I behave the way I do cause it feels good to me. I have made friends in the game and treat them as such. If a friend screws me (without any kissing of course) then I scratch them off that short list. Doesn't mean I won't fly with them if it serves my interest though... trust is free the first time but once violated it becomes nearly impossible to get back.
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Van Derka
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Posted - 2011.05.02 02:46:00 -
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I play with honor in EVE, but I understand that the game includes other people who take playing with dishonor very seriously.
I do wonder though, if the people who play with dishonor are actually dishonorable people in RL? Are these people excited by playing the dishonorable role - would these same people act dishonorably in RL if they were given the opportunity?
Kids tend to want to push the boundaries, its rare to find a child that doesn't do something morally wrong in their teenage years. There are a lot of teenagers who play EVE who haven't really consolidated their own moral and ethical boundaries, arguably a lot easier to corrupt.
Lets say one takes on the role of a Pirate in EVE. If, during the process of stealing a corps wealth, one engages with another human and establishes a connection, a connection that goes beyond the false persona you've created to infiltrate that corp... If one feels bad/guilty for that other human, does that absolve all moral transgressions? Should one feel bad when winning a game?
There are people who use RL mechanics (taxation/legal/corp/family systems) to give themselves advantage over others, some are just scumbags who'd rip off their own family, some believe that if no law prevents something, then that is an opportunity to be taken advantage of. The saying 'if I dont/didnt do it, someone else would have' is still around today, even though its changed from raping and pillaging. Its just more abstracted now...
This is a game, and if you apply the rules you live by to a game - that includes cheating and criminal activity - then you are opting out on part of the game, like pvpers opt-out of the mining part of the game.
Just pod everyone and let god sort it out...
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Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.02 18:48:00 -
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I saw a guy scamming the plex for japan appeal once... i nearly threw up...
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Chimaira wolf
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.05.17 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: ScooterPuff Sr somewhere on the internets is a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head. therefor your arguement is invalid.
We don't care mate. U be a noob wahh. Applebabe |
Dirk Decartes
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.05.17 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Van Derka I play with honor in EVE, but I understand that the game includes other people who take playing with dishonor very seriously.
I do wonder though, if the people who play with dishonor are actually dishonorable people in RL? Are these people excited by playing the dishonorable role - would these same people act dishonorably in RL if they were given the opportunity?
Kids tend to want to push the boundaries, its rare to find a child that doesn't do something morally wrong in their teenage years. There are a lot of teenagers who play EVE who haven't really consolidated their own moral and ethical boundaries, arguably a lot easier to corrupt.
Lets say one takes on the role of a Pirate in EVE. If, during the process of stealing a corps wealth, one engages with another human and establishes a connection, a connection that goes beyond the false persona you've created to infiltrate that corp... If one feels bad/guilty for that other human, does that absolve all moral transgressions? Should one feel bad when winning a game?
There are people who use RL mechanics (taxation/legal/corp/family systems) to give themselves advantage over others, some are just scumbags who'd rip off their own family, some believe that if no law prevents something, then that is an opportunity to be taken advantage of. The saying 'if I dont/didnt do it, someone else would have' is still around today, even though its changed from raping and pillaging. Its just more abstracted now...
This is a game, and if you apply the rules you live by to a game - that includes cheating and criminal activity - then you are opting out on part of the game, like pvpers opt-out of the mining part of the game.
Just pod everyone and let god sort it out...
I once cared about what people like you thought. About 8 years ago though some guy did something I blindly followed, cause he was a so called good gamer. It turned out he was just another gamer. Someone without goals, without direction. It is my own internal leadership that makes me better then you. You will never be anything without internal understanding. As in knowing who you are and what you want.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.17 09:20:00 -
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Well, my pocket could do with being $0.02 lighter, so I'll toss this in:
If you really, genuinely, and in all honesty believe, that a person's character in Eve online reflects their real life persona and values, I have a quandary for you.
Why the **** aren't you out there trying to close down Rockstar games for creating Grand Theft Auto? Don't you know that they're only playing it because they want to murder prostitutes in real life? MILLIONS OF PLAYERS! They have to be controlled!
I could go on and post sarcastic little messages about hundreds of other games out there on the market, but I think I've made the point.
Computer game != real life.
If you have fun doing something in a game, it's because you are part of an environment that has a DIFFERENT set of rules and expectations than real life.
Scamming and exploiting other capsuleers is part of the allowable game mechanics of eve .. so all you're really saying is "Player A is following the rules of the game, but gosh darnit, I don't like it!"
Since it's allowable .. where the **** is your point?
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Signal11th
Versatech Co.
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Posted - 2011.05.17 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Signal11th on 17/05/2011 12:20:12 Humm quite a difficult subject really as it ties into peoples personalities. Personally I play EVE as I do day to day.
Treat people as they treat me, pretty much.
The problem lies in can you ever consider someone whom you have never met/gone for a drink with or someone you only talk to through a keyboard a "real" friend.
Personally outside of the game I would never even dream of scamming someone or stealing their stuff but inside the game if I don't know them (as in not corpies/alliance/aquaintances) why not it's a game. (I haven't actually ever scammed anyone though)
People seem to always want to form attachments to people even though they have never met them don't even know what they look like and in some cases never even spoke to them. Would you lend your car to someone you've never met never heard but because he claims he is your friend...Don't think you would.
Where you have to be careful is with the emotional idiots( usually younger players),who can't distinguish between real life and a game. Of course myself I'm going to be phished off if someone takes my stuff but I will be phished off with "myself" for being a sucker and letting it happen.
If you get scammed/****ed over don't blame the chap who did it, blame yourself for letting it happen. If it looks to good to be true 9 times out of 10 it will be. I read most scamming post's and usually it's the same crap " I recruited some chap/chapette and gave him/her full access to the corp, he ran off with all the stuff" or "Mister Goon told me I could join for 500mil"
If you take it personally and carry a grudge I would suspect you have an issue you need to work on probably with the aid of some tablets and a doctor. It's a game it's not real, don't treat it as real and you won't get upset by the stuff that goes on.
On a lighter note though I think there should be more of a effort to alert "new/stupid" players of common scams/potential rip offs maybe in the form of a html document sent to their email addresses when they sign up(what does everyone else think of this? Knowing me it's already being done). I can of course supply people with this if you send me 10mil ISK to this character.......
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EpicFailTroll
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Posted - 2011.05.17 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
Why the **** aren't you out there trying to close down Rockstar games for creating Grand Theft Auto? Don't you know that they're only playing it because they want to murder prostitutes in real life? MILLIONS OF PLAYERS! They have to be controlled!
I could go on and post sarcastic little messages about hundreds of other games out there on the market, but I think I've made the point.
Computer game != real life.
Offline solo game = zero time investment zero time loss online multiplayer fps = huge time investment huge time loss spaceships online multiplayer game ? I guess so ueaueuaeuaeuae
I wonder more and more how some of you people have paid jobs that require cognitive functions.
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Mighty Dread
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.17 16:24:00 -
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It might be worth considering that on some subconscious level (or even conscious level) some players push the boundaries of what might be considered immoral behavior (as it applies to EVE) in hopes that the game will be properly balanced by CCP at some point. Unfortunately CCP tends to address certain issues only after players have taken them to their extreme. Someone needed to go smartbombing Jita 4-4 undock before CCP even raised an eyebrow. I think EVE should have an equal balance of in game immorality and morality, good and evil, problem is CCP seems to struggle with balancing their game.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.17 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll Offline solo game = zero time investment zero time loss online multiplayer fps = huge time investment huge time loss spaceships online multiplayer game ? I guess so ueaueuaeuaeuae
Jesus.
I think you're right.
SOOO ... I guess my procedure before engaging in PVP (of any variety) ought to be:
- Check out the target / victim carefully. We need to know: a) How much ISK they have b) How long it took to acquire c) The value they place on their time and ergo ISK d) A full interview to ensure they don't suffer from any learning problems e) Written permission and a consent form to engage f) Doublecheck with them they insured their ship
If after their cargo, ensure: g) Have you offered to buy it at a reasonable cost, first? h) If it is intended for someone else, have you ran through points a-g for the recipient?
Or how about you stop being a blithering idiot and realise that no matter the format behind the game, it's all virtual pixels in a pixel world.
You also didn't counter the point I actually made.... how is someone's desire to kill / steal in Eve different than someone's desire to play another game, that simulates similar things? It's about MOTIVE - not what it took to virtually acquire.
The motive to exploit every potential avenue within the rules for self benefit is the same in Eve, as it is in any other game.
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KrustyKrab
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.05.17 23:23:00 -
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posting in Hellcity Boston's tear-inducing thread.
Hel, why are you so mean? Normal people don't like being touched in inappropriate places. Stuff goes here |
EpicFailTroll
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Posted - 2011.05.18 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
Or how about you stop being a blithering idiot and realise that no matter the format behind the game, it's all virtual pixels in a pixel world.
You also didn't counter the point I actually made.... how is someone's desire to kill / steal in Eve different than someone's desire to play another game, that simulates similar things? It's about MOTIVE - not what it took to virtually acquire.
The motive to exploit every potential avenue within the rules for self benefit is the same in Eve, as it is in any other game.
Pixels aren't virtual, the things they depict are, but the fact that the virtual goods depicted took time for people to virtually acquire and possibly represent emotional investment, make anybody with a hint of empathy, stop and consider before destroying/stealing said virtual goods, because... there are flesh and bones people behind pixels.
Flesh and bone people who might play the game as an end in itself -roleplaying a capsuleer, which explains the emotional investment for virtual goods-, and not as a means to a not-ingame related end, which would be, reaping Schadenfreude. Do note that EFT has no problem at all with players roleplaying pirates, and that it's very easy to distinguish pirate roleplayers from online sociopaths trying to compensate their everyday misery/shortcomings with tears and hatemail gathering activities.
You're visibly intellectually impaired or underage, but EFT is glad that you got it's all about the motives. Are the goals ingame or out of game?
tldr; if you enjoy making people mad over the internet, in a videogame, for no other reason than feeling good, you've got pretty big issues.
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Ispai Ponue
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Posted - 2011.05.18 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll
Pixels aren't virtual, the things they depict are, but the fact that the virtual goods depicted took time for people to virtually acquire and possibly represent emotional investment, make anybody with a hint of empathy, stop and consider before destroying/stealing said virtual goods, because... there are flesh and bones people behind pixels.
Sort of like the time I was playing D&D. I had advanced my ranger for years in the game. Then one day the DM just killed him off...just like that. He said it was just the dice rolls in combination with my choices but I still jumped across the table and beat him half to death for it and threw him out of my house. All the while he was crying, "It's just a game dude!"
We haven't spoken since. That guy has no sense of empathy at all!
What I don't understand though is that nobody wanted to play with me after that.
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