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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Still Censored
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:28:00 -
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Plus the amount of people that actually follow CSM or follow it close enough to find the actual names is very small to be of much concern. Mainly because the CSM historically is a joke. Though the past few years seem to have been decent. |
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
485
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:31:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Mintchip wrote:I believe that it's important the real name is given to CCP for legal purposes, but real name to the gaming community, isn't necessary. You can send any gaming journalist to a Mark "Seleene" Heard or an Alexander "The Mittani" Gianturco for comments but asking them to attribute a statement to "Seleene" or "The Mittani" goes against journalistic best practices and will require a lot of convincing (you always attribute sources by name - unless your article places them in harm's way). A CSM without (public) real names would be less useful to CCP in this regard.
I disagree... every article out there that mentions CCP Devs uses the "CCP Whateveah" nicknames. If devs real names are protected (insert t20 incident here), player's real names should be protected as well. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:34:00 -
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I've got no problem with CSM's being as "anonymous" as they choose to be. However, if they begin to show the stunning lack of character that people such as the disgraced lawyer did, I would hope CCP would "out" them in all their deserved glory in order to keep the stink of their actions off the company.
Besides, aren't their names clearly announced in their candidacies? I seem to recall seeing the names of all of them in the last couple elections.
Edit: haven't seen Mintchip's latest video; I only tend to watch her do her EveO stuff a couple times a year. Belly button lint is more exciting than her videos. |
Charles Baker
Aliastra Gallente Federation
205
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:38:00 -
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To be honest i'd be disappointed if i ran for CSM and someone didn't either
A) Make a threat on my life B) ****-talk me to my employer C) Send severed heads of small animals to my house
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Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1220
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:42:00 -
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Releasing a players real name as incentive for them to behave while on the CSM is stupid. It is the equivilant of saying, "So like be good while being a volunteer and we took the liberty to make sure if anyone mental disagrees with your Internet spaceship gaming direction and philosophy, they have a way to easily harm you in real life due to use providing your real name."
It is a game. CCP should not be enabeling psycos to harm players in real life. If something bad was to really happen, people will blame CCP regardless. Forcing players to reveal their real name when running for CSM provides zero benifits to any aspect of this game. ZERO.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1220
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:44:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:I've got no problem with CSM's being as "anonymous" as they choose to be. However, if they begin to show the stunning lack of character that people such as the disgraced lawyer did, I would hope CCP would "out" them in all their deserved glory in order to keep the stink of their actions off the company.
Besides, aren't their names clearly announced in their candidacies? I seem to recall seeing the names of all of them in the last couple elections.
Edit: haven't seen Mintchip's latest video; I only tend to watch her do her EveO stuff a couple times a year. Belly button lint is more exciting than her videos. No need to 'out' them. Just remove them from the CSM.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1509
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:50:00 -
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yeah i mean all you're gonna learn is that i'm an RL troll as well as an eve troll |
Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1220
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Posted - 2012.08.17 22:55:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:yeah i mean all you're gonna learn is that i'm an RL troll as well as an eve troll Seriously you are correct. I mean the point of what you said. The jerks are still gonna jerk and not care who they offend. It is those who mean the best, but because they pushed for an agenda for changes that step on the toes of someone running an RMT sweat shop; they get a horse head in the mail or worse.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
35
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Posted - 2012.08.18 01:10:00 -
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wait whut? A female avatar actually used by a female? Is the sky falling? Join the Knights Of Illusion STE Corporation! Casual and Hardcore gamers! |
5n4keyes
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
48
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Posted - 2012.08.18 01:23:00 -
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I think that its pretty common for players to add each other to say facebook, or other social media sites, or even know each others real names, this is certainly common in my corp.
Its also not usually too hard to find someone on the internet with a bit of googling, people tend to play with the same name/tag, eventually this leads to an email you can search for, voila facebook profile.
The problem comes when that kind of information is used for abuse, simply knowing someones name and country isn;t hard to find, but taking it beyond that is where the issues begin.
I personally wouldn't have a problem with my real name being posted if I ran for CSM, and im sure if people really wanted to, they could find out who I was, and where I live, having my name posted on a CSM running sheet would only save a person a few minutes.
/5n4ke |
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Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.08.18 01:30:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:If i ever made a MMO, the official fourms would display the first name of players along with their character's name and also would be accessible to know how many characters are associated to that account, and their names.
And I wouldn't post on the forums, ever, and most likely wouldn't subscribe to your MMO with that attitude. |
Crazy Jason
t0d4b0n3 Fear My Baguette
0
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Posted - 2012.08.18 01:35:00 -
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Why would ppl care about revealing who they are in RL? There is millions of people providing lots of information about themselves via google, facebook and whatever internet services they use every day.. revealing your real life identity in eve should be the least thing you really should worry about.
about mintchip: she is cute... but watching her videos makes me sick.. the camera work is an absolute disaster.... maybe she should make a course on how to capture actual footage b4 she keeps making more and more terrible videos. The content might not even be bad, but the way she records and edits the videos totally ruin it.
edit: for the grammar police.. english is not my 1st language and i am totally drunk \o/ |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2410
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Posted - 2012.08.18 02:01:00 -
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Crazy Jason wrote:about mintchip: she is cute... but watching her videos makes me sick.. the camera work is an absolute disaster.... maybe she should make a course on how to capture actual footage b4 she keeps making more and more terrible videos. The content might not even be bad, but the way she records and edits the videos totally ruin it. But not sick enough to stop you from watching them, eh?
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Ensign X
102
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Posted - 2012.08.18 02:02:00 -
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Oh hello thread. My name is Ryan. Please do not stalk and kill me IRL now. Thank you. |
Crazy Jason
t0d4b0n3 Fear My Baguette
0
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Posted - 2012.08.18 02:10:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Crazy Jason wrote:about mintchip: she is cute... but watching her videos makes me sick.. the camera work is an absolute disaster.... maybe she should make a course on how to capture actual footage b4 she keeps making more and more terrible videos. The content might not even be bad, but the way she records and edits the videos totally ruin it. But not sick enough to stop you from watching them, eh?
well.. i am quite new to eve.. and while checking all kinds of eve related videos on youtube i also stumbled over her videos |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1186
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Posted - 2012.08.18 02:19:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Mintchip wrote:Look, I was talking about how they shouldn't reveal real names. Not that they were going to. They already do.
Read up on stuff before you make a completely worthless topic, I linked plenty of reading in my video.
xoxo Mint So then what's the point?
Camera time http://www.themittani.com Bringing balance to the world of Eve news |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.08.18 02:20:00 -
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Rebecca Linares > > > mintchip Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1273
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:46:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Releasing a players real name as incentive for them to behave while on the CSM is stupid. It is the equivilant of saying, "So like be good while being a volunteer and we took the liberty to make sure if anyone mental disagrees with your Internet spaceship gaming direction and philosophy, they have a way to easily harm you in real life due to use providing your real name."
It is a game. CCP should not be enabeling psycos to harm players in real life. If something bad was to really happen, people will blame CCP regardless. Forcing players to reveal their real name when running for CSM provides zero benifits to any aspect of this game. ZERO. Oh my, didn't something like this happen just a little while ago. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
529
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Posted - 2012.08.18 04:56:00 -
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I don't believe Real names should be released by CCP.
The last CSM election showed that some people who play this game do not have the ability to separate fantasy from reality.
It is rather irresponsible to let real names out. Yes some people will act like scum but I would rather that than us having assault/murder charges hitting the main stream media.
People find all kinds of excuses for crimes Dungeons and dragons, fritz the cat, ect, ect. I am surprised no one has tried EvE yet but a crime where CCP permitted it to occur by supplying someones real name would sit on the media forever. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2307
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Posted - 2012.08.18 05:03:00 -
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Christy D Floyd wrote:I just watched Mintchips video ( Okay all you nerds stop drooling over a piece of a$$ you will never get) and she talked about the CSM minutes and how CCP might make the CSM reveal there true names. She made alot of sense and I completely agree with her that all playyers inlcuding CSM memebers should remain anonymous.
Im curious what would happen if some how either legally or illegally all eve 's players true names or emails were revealed (aka hacked similiar to SOE) and anonymity was thrown out the window.
Would you or have you revealed your ture name to your corp or friends in game?
It is part of the agreement you sign when running for CSM.
Anyone who cares could find my real name rather easily. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
325
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Posted - 2012.08.18 08:41:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:I disagree... every article out there that mentions CCP Devs uses the "CCP Whateveah" nicknames. You will almost never find anyone other than Lander, David Reid or Kristoffer Touborg (occasionally Hilmar or Torfi) talking to the press about EVE and these are always referred to with real names.
Other devs only talk to the community/fansites (and then use their pseudonyms) but will generally not to be sent to talk to the press.
If you can, then show me any article by an established gaming magazine (no, massively doesn't count, their articles are glorified blogs by an eve player) that refers to CCP employees only by pseudonym.
I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
589
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Posted - 2012.08.18 08:41:00 -
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Smohq Anmirorz wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:If i ever made a MMO, the official fourms would display the first name of players along with their character's name and also would be accessible to know how many characters are associated to that account, and their names. And I wouldn't post on the forums, ever, and most likely wouldn't subscribe to your MMO with that attitude.
An attitude like "oh my, I might not be able to hide in the dark and play scoundrel from behind anonimacy, as every action I do in game will have a public consequence linked to my real first name".
Yes, i understand that it would leave many EVE players out of the potential target.
"We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |
Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
27
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Posted - 2012.08.18 09:13:00 -
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I do nothing online that I wouldn't want to be associated with my true identity.
Should CCP forcibly release all player's names? No.
Should CSM member have their names released? Eh, probably not a terrible idea. I can see the logic behind it.
Would CCP threatening to release my real name stop me from playing Eve? Nope, see first sentence. |
Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises The Aslyum
77
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Posted - 2012.08.18 09:16:00 -
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I'd be fine with revealing my true name, personally. But I can understand why others wouldn't. |
Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
1734
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Posted - 2012.08.18 09:33:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Christy D Floyd wrote:I just watched Mintchips video ( Okay all you nerds stop drooling over a piece of a$$ you will never get) and she talked about the CSM minutes and how CCP might make the CSM reveal there true names. She made alot of sense and I completely agree with her that all playyers inlcuding CSM memebers should remain anonymous.
Im curious what would happen if some how either legally or illegally all eve 's players true names or emails were revealed (aka hacked similiar to SOE) and anonymity was thrown out the window.
Would you or have you revealed your ture name to your corp or friends in game?
It is part of the agreement you sign when running for CSM. Anyone who cares could find my real name rather easily.
You're all good. Your name sounds classy.
It's really up to the person. Just beware the stalkers I guess. Pirates are red, buddies are blue, if you're unlucky enough to be orange, I'll f*cking kill you.I wonder if all the pickles in the forums are tax exempt? |
Jack Murdoc
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.08.18 10:22:00 -
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People still care about Mintchip? |
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.08.18 10:43:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Smohq Anmirorz wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:If i ever made a MMO, the official fourms would display the first name of players along with their character's name and also would be accessible to know how many characters are associated to that account, and their names. And I wouldn't post on the forums, ever, and most likely wouldn't subscribe to your MMO with that attitude. An attitude like "oh my, I might not be able to hide in the dark and play scoundrel from behind anonimacy, as every action I do in game will have a public consequence linked to my real first name".
Not sure about the first part, but definitely the second part! |
Medarr
ZeroSec
17
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:11:00 -
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Mintchip wrote:Look, I was talking about how they shouldn't reveal real names. Not that they were going to. They already do.
Read up on stuff before you make a completely worthless topic, I linked plenty of reading in my video.
xoxo Mint
Who cares the arguments you make in the vid are largely and mostly irrelevant. There has not been a case of a CSM being harassed out of game. As for mittens... Karma is a ***** huh. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
426
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Posted - 2012.08.19 16:05:00 -
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You live under an invisible blanket of security by obscurity.
It's really no security at all, but carry on dreaming, undocking and pvping please.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:35:00 -
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Medarr wrote:Mintchip wrote:Look, I was talking about how they shouldn't reveal real names. Not that they were going to. They already do.
Read up on stuff before you make a completely worthless topic, I linked plenty of reading in my video.
xoxo Mint Who cares the arguments you make in the vid are largely and mostly irrelevant. There has not been a case of a CSM being harassed out of game. As for mittens... Karma is a ***** huh.
Because taking someone's video game space gold means he should be the target of death threats and other terroristic activity . You pubbies :wtc:. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
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