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Xia Zem
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.22 07:51:00 -
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Discuss ways the market could move trade out of Jita in a profitable way, now.
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Fleshbot
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Posted - 2011.01.22 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xia Zem Discuss ways the market could move trade out of Jita in a profitable way, now.
How will moving Jita to anywhere else be more advantages to leaving it where it is?
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B Nabs
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Posted - 2011.01.22 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Fleshbot
Originally by: Xia Zem Discuss ways the market could move trade out of Jita in a profitable way, now.
How will moving Jita to anywhere else be more advantages to leaving it where it is?
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SellOrder Forum
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Posted - 2011.01.22 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xia Zem Discuss ways the market could move trade out of Jita in a profitable way, now.
You can move YOUR market out of jita with ease. 1) get a frieghter or set up a courier contract. 2) GTFO
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Companion Qube
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Posted - 2011.01.22 10:48:00 -
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"The market" doesn't move anything anywhere - the market reflects the current value people think something has, it's not an actor.
I think what you really meant to ask was how people can move trade out of Jita. Why bother? It's bloody convenient to pick everything up in one place.
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.01.22 11:09:00 -
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I don't know about you guys, but CCP nerfed my Jita by opening up local as the default chat window when I log in. If I could merge stacks remotely, then I'd be outta there.
Selling my tears for 1 mil/m3. Bulk discounts available.
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Zan Tu
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Posted - 2011.01.22 11:15:00 -
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personally, I'd leave it right where it is, that way, I know where the crap is to avoid.
"R&D Lottery: A Tax on people with poor math skills..."
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Carniflex
StarHunt R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.22 11:17:00 -
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Only way to nuke Jita is to reroute gates so it's a lot more inconvinient to reach Jita. As happened to Yulai, that was the hub before Jita. CCP rerouted gates so Yulai was relatively inconviniet to reach and trade hub moved to Jita.
All you can do is to move "The Market", there is not a lot one can do about emergence of "The Market" anymore than one can do about gravity. You can overcome it for a little while, but maintaining your position is trickier.
If you would just delete Jita outright I would place my bet on Amarr being the new hub.
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Sun Ying
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.01.22 12:14:00 -
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i think jita should install a massive teleporter linked to one station in each faction, basically making jita available in 4 spots in the universe !
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TipsyMcStagger
Caldari Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.22 12:31:00 -
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Why?
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.01.22 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ying i think jita should install a massive teleporter linked to one station in each faction, basically making jita available in 4 spots in the universe !
That's a cool idea - if not physically, they could at least make the information available Universe-wide, just like real trade information today, so that people can coordinate their trading a little more effectively.
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Zati Pasirga
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Posted - 2011.01.22 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ying i think jita should install a massive teleporter linked to one station in each faction, basically making jita available in 4 spots in the universe !
And a neutral marketnetwork for lowsec run by goblins! Oh wait...
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Ayaska Shran
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Posted - 2011.01.22 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ying i think jita should install a massive teleporter linked to one station in each faction, basically making jita available in 4 spots in the universe !
Worst idea... ever.
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Nick Nailer
Amarr Localhost.LL.c..
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Posted - 2011.01.22 14:25:00 -
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this is happening, it's now the opening festival for Hulkageddon.
Get your arsse to jita with a bunch of suicide ships, whatever you can get high volley with and afford to lose. Set up your wardecs and jump clones NOW and do so knowing there just might be a limit to how many can be in jita. 1-2 jumps out might be good way to avoid initial concord festival in system..
Starting Feb. 1st and going through the weekend, the market hub is being seiged.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.01.22 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Nailer this is happening, it's now the opening festival for Hulkageddon.
Get your arsse to jita with a bunch of suicide ships, whatever you can get high volley with and afford to lose. Set up your wardecs and jump clones NOW and do so knowing there just might be a limit to how many can be in jita. 1-2 jumps out might be good way to avoid initial concord festival in system..
Starting Feb. 1st and going through the weekend, the market hub is being seiged.
.. Hulkageddon isn't until the end of February, what are on blabbering on about? That "troll the trollS" nonsense that some random guy came up with and will fail at? :)
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Cleansing Spite
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.22 14:32:00 -
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You can make more money in Jita. That's actually kind of the point. If you're a savvy trader, shipping well-priced goods out of trade hubs to less efficient markets is likely to drastically increase your risk per trade. Increased risk will yield increased rewards - the key is in having enough capital to tolerate those risks.
The market hub exists because of the suicide bombers, scammers, and gankers that haunt the rest of the 'verse. Jita is safe, accessible, and well-traveled. Consequently, you have limited risk in terms of:
1.) Getting ganked (though suicide gankers are beginning to present unique challenges to hubs) 2.) Not being able to find couriers 3.) Experiencing low liquidity 4.) Mis-pricing your assets
Jita also has unique benefits:
1.) High new player concentration 2.) High overall traffic 3.) Favored by well-capitalized traders
That's why it's desirable. I'm not sure you can shift trade to another area until these fundamental problems are resolved.
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Nick Nailer
Amarr Localhost.LL.c..
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Posted - 2011.01.22 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Caldariftw123
.. Hulkageddon isn't until the end of February, what are on blabbering on about? That "troll the trollS" nonsense that some random guy came up with and will fail at? :)
so u heard, good. get ready
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Logical Chaos
Tremendous Fail Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.22 17:13:00 -
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This has been tried several times and always ended with:
-It won't work -There would not be any improvements/gains from this
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Zaknussem
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2011.01.22 19:09:00 -
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Although it's been a few years since, someone calculated that the center of Hi-Sec space was the system Kaaputenen in the Citadel region. This was calculating by the average distance between any two points in Hi-Sec space (Kaaputenen had the shortest average distance to all the Hi-Sec systems).
Jita is 5 jumps away from this "center". The only reason to move the primary trade hub of EvE would be to bring it closer to this "center". Considering that most people will want to be safe while trading, a high sec rating is pretty much mandatory.
The only systems that can fulfull this criteria are Perimeter, Urlen and Sirppala.
Now explain why you should undertake the colossal effort of moving the largest trade hub in EvE a distance of 3 jumps. |
NoScream
Amarr Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.22 23:52:00 -
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You can not move the Jita Trade hub, The 0rphanage own Jita 4-4 end of story, plus you just be creating another mirror of it whereever you move it too.
Application to move 4-4
REFUSED
Naughty Naughty !! |
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Nin Kimrov
Minmatar Kenzi Arms and Munitions
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Posted - 2011.01.23 01:16:00 -
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Remove the high sec roads between empires and now there will be less centralised trading.
and as for this, ask the FW teams to defend those newly low sec systems.
Hey, I fixed 2 things!
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PinkFish
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Posted - 2011.01.23 04:36:00 -
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All roads lead to Yulai |
Nick Nailer
Amarr Localhost.LL.c..
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Posted - 2011.01.23 04:54:00 -
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the main point of "troll the trolls 2011" being to get people to trade in perimeter...
lessen the lag, let the market stay similar if not the same, we just shift emphasis... problem solved for both players and hosts.
any questions, im sure my contact info is out there.. |
Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.01.23 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Nailer the main point of "troll the trolls 2011" being to get people to trade in perimeter...
lessen the lag, let the market stay similar if not the same, we just shift emphasis... problem solved for both players and hosts.
any questions, im sure my contact info is out there..
People congregate in a hub by their own choice, and they do this despite what you may see as a problematic level of traffic. Jita wasn't made by CCP, it was made by market forces. To try and deliberately move it is a futile exercise. Not only will you fail (it's been an established hub for years, what is 1 week of supposed 'siege' going to do to change that?) but the same market forces that made jita the hub in the first place will continue to play out. Do you honestly think all the manufacturers, PI people, traders, etc., are going to say "Hey I will haul my millions of M3 and billions and billions of goods next door, to help out mr Nick Nailer who seems to have a grudge against jita?"
You are fighting an impossible battle and worst of all you are not doing it for any sensible/just reason. |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.01.24 01:21:00 -
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[WTB] remote stacking
Probably already supported in one of those many proposals regarding trade overhaul in the AH..
Tips&Tricks to make your avatar look good |
Nefariel Vash
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Posted - 2011.01.24 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zati Pasirga
And a neutral marketnetwork for lowsec run by goblins! Oh wait...
lol
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Durin Sarga
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Posted - 2011.01.24 04:07:00 -
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Caldari brings up a good point. Jita while not particularly important itself is a culmination of Caldari being Caldari. They are the entrepeneurs. They have Lonetrek which has an unholy amount of manufacturing and invention slots. Not to mention other things.
Give people an alternative area with similar quantities of manufacturing and invention slots for maintaining a sizeable trade hub and then you might actually have something. But until then, Jita is Jita.
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Nick Nailer
Amarr Localhost.LL.c..
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Posted - 2011.01.26 07:53:00 -
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um, troll the trolls starts Feb. 1st 2011... hello, hi, how ya doing, welcome to the event, let me get you a drink......
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Danari
Invictus Australis BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.01.26 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
If you would just delete Jita outright I would place my bet on Amarr being the new hub.
500+ in local, half of them can flippers and scammers, it already qualifies as 'old Jita'
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.26 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Durin Sarga Caldari brings up a good point. Jita while not particularly important itself is a culmination of Caldari being Caldari. They are the entrepeneurs.
Why do some keep spouting this BS, it wrong the Caldari state is a Autarky, Planned/Command Economy, The Caldari state economy is closer to Facist economics or the Soviet Union.
It is actually the antithesis of a free trade/laissez-faire economics.
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