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Colonel Handgrenade
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:35:00 -
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This is not a rant or whining. This is a call to arms!
Recently, my miner corp was wardecced for no reason by these guys:
Asteroid Liberation Force [-ALF-]
We never had any contact with them before. They like to wardeck miner corps in hi sec for no reason other than their own amusement. When I asked their CEO why he declared war on us, he responded, "Oh did i? I was just hitting buttons" and stated that he didn't know how to cancel the wardec. The following day, they flew into our area of operations and started ganking us. Was I surprised? Absolutely not.
Obviously, these guys are just looking to cause grief to those that aren't quite able to defend themselves yet. My corp is only a month old.
Well I don't like being bullied and I HATE bullies, so my corp mates and I are fighting them and calling on all decent corps out there to give these guys a taste of their own medicine. Your corp mates are bored? Wardec these guys and have some fun. They are cowards. They are too chicken to engage in low sec pvp, so they wardec corps that work in high sec that have no pvp skills. Not very honorable, is it? Check their killboard and you see mostly miners and haulers. Their corp home page USED to boast the last NINE corps that they have done this to... they changed it after they found themselves being hunted by us.
My corp and at least one other corp are fighting them, despite our lack of pvp experience. We have some support from other corps that have formed an unofficial coalition against ALF. Please join us in convincing these cowards that they will NOT be able to continue such foolish actions any longer. Contact me or my CEO if you want to learn more and have some fun with this.
Here are their 3 most active members BlinDeamon is the CEO and he has a 5 million isk bounty on his head. Reisenkaze TC Spartan
Olive branch: To the ALF CEO, you know how to end this and it is entirely up to you. This wardec is NOT mutual. Cancel your wardec against my corp and the other corps you wardecced, then our coalition will leave you alone.
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade "Oh did i? I was just hitting buttons"
I lol'd
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Colonel Handgrenade
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:42:00 -
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So did I when he said it. He really though I was born yesterday.
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Nadrick
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:46:00 -
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wish you luck, i would help but im pure noob |
Kristin ouysnwo
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade So did I when he said it. He really though I was born yesterday.
You were.
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Colonel Handgrenade
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Colonel Handgrenade on 24/01/2011 16:50:07
Originally by: Nadrick wish you luck, i would help but im pure noob
Thanks.
Even a "pure noob" can get in on this and be effective if they want to.
Just remember, they pick on me today, they will probably pick on you tomorrow.
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Kristin ouysnwo
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade
Just remember, they pick on me today, they will probably pick on you tomorrow.
Just remember, get picked on by one corp, post in see and pee about it today, get picked on by 100 other griefers tomorrow.
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.01.24 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade HATE
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HauntedDragon
Caldari Interplanetary Operations
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:03:00 -
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Try Hiring Mercs. There is several goods ones out there, Like Noir.
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Izztyrr Maemtor
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade This is not a rant or whining.
Yes it is.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade They like to wardeck miner corps in hi sec for no reason other than their own amusement.
That's the only reason one needs and its not against the EULA. Welcome to EvE.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Colonel Handgrenade
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Izztyrr Maemtor
That's the only reason one needs and its not against the EULA. Welcome to EvE.
Thanks. It's been quite a learning experience and a lot of fun.
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:14:00 -
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How is this surprising? Everyone in high sec is a babby. ----
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The Grabbler
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:15:00 -
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Congratulations, you just ruined your chance at having fun for the rest of your characters life.
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Colonel Handgrenade
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: The Grabbler Congratulations, you just ruined your chance at having fun for the rest of your characters life.
Perhaps. But it's only a game.
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Kristin ouysnwo
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade But it's only a game.
There it is. The calling card of the eternally griefed and hopelessly outclassed.
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:51:00 -
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To be fair on ALF, their name is probably kind of the whole reason they decced you. ...You profiteering, environment-destroying, asteroid-kitten-orphaning monster.
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Colonel Handgrenade
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Posted - 2011.01.24 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kristin ouysnwo[/quote
There it is. The calling card of the eternally griefed and hopelessly outclassed.
You're absolutely right. I know when the odds are against me. But I also know the difference from reality and digital cash and make-believe space ships.
Obiviously i thought this would be an appropriate forum to seek help, but clearly I was wrong. My corp and I will handle this on our own and if we go down, we will have done it together and had some fun in the process.
Thank you to the few people who offered encouragement, but I see that this was pointless.
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Jenna Jugg3son
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Posted - 2011.01.24 18:02:00 -
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Good luck boyz!
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.24 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade Edited by: Colonel Handgrenade on 24/01/2011 18:34:30 message deleted... wrong forum apparently.
You're in the right forum, you're just going about it the wrong way.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.25 03:35:00 -
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Don't be discouraged by the negativity in the thread. You have the right idea, but as Dawts said, you're just going about it the wrong way. Your post contains certain key words and phrases that incite the trolls to violence.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade This is not a rant or whining. This is a call to arms!
That's the right attitude to have in a situation like this, you're on the right track.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade Recently, my miner corp was wardecced for no reason
There's always a reason, even if it's just "for teh lulz". In this case it's most likely roleplay/extortion, don't take it personal. Taking things personal is a sure way to stir up the trolls.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade They like to wardeck miner corps in hi sec for no reason other than their own amusement
1) "wardec" short for "war declaration". Easy enough typo to make, but it's another one of those things that gets the trolls going. 2) I understand where you're coming from, but keep in mind that the majority of the residents on this section of the forum pvp for amusement, and implying that you think "pvp for amusement is bad" is basically the C&P equivalent of this guy.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade The following day, they flew into our area of operations and started ganking us. Was I surprised? Absolutely not
Hopefully you warned your members about the wardec and recommended that they not undock mining barges with hostiles in local?
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade Obviously, these guys are just looking to cause grief to those that aren't quite able to defend themselves yet
I like your attitude, two things though: 1) "not able to defend themselves" is another one of those phrases that attract the vultures. Like with wasps or dogs, you can't show any weakness or fear. 2) You can defend yourself after a month, I had to back when I first started playing. Mail me ingame and I can give you some strategies that are much more in depth than "use ecm" and "fight in massed t1 cruisers".
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade Well I don't like being bullied and I HATE bullies, so my corp mates and I are fighting them and calling on all decent corps out there to give these guys a taste of their own medicine.
Exactly the right attitude to have here.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade Your corp mates are bored? Wardec these guys and have some fun.
Another mistake though, remember you're dealing with people who pvp for a living. To them, asking to dec someone for free is like posting in market discussion and asking for isk.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade They are cowards. They are too chicken to engage in low sec pvp, so they wardec corps that work in high sec that have no pvp skills
The discussion on the merits of highsec, lowsec, and nullsec pvp is a minefield on this part of the forums, and you just stepped on ~1/3rd of the residents (and exactly the ones who would be most useful to you) by implying that highsec pvp is inferior in some way. The truth is that there are "cowards" in all three types. Station huggers in highsec, lowsec "pirates" who won't engage without a cyno and 3 carrier alts on standby, and nullsec elitists whos only pvp experience is being a robot in a 500 vs 500 fleet battle in a corp owned battleship.
Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade My corp and at least one other corp are fighting them, despite our lack of pvp experience. We have some support from other corps that have formed an unofficial coalition against ALF. Please join us in convincing these cowards that they will NOT be able to continue such foolish actions any longer.
I like seeing a corp that's willing to fight for their right to exist. If you or your coalition are interested in employing any of my services, or even if you just want to talk strategy, send me a mail or convo ingame and I'll see what I can do to help you out. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.01.25 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Handgrenade Edited by: Colonel Handgrenade on 24/01/2011 20:59:22
message deleted... wrong forum apparently.
Do tell us which the correct forum is please. Next time I'm going for a sympathy kiss, I'd like to know where I can get one.
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razcazan
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:31:00 -
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Don't worry Colonel, we got your back.
The Op's in this topic are right, don't worry about the flame trolls, there's a lot of good people on these forums with great advice, learned most of what I know about PvP on here.
Our best strategy for handling these guys is going to be one of two approaches.
Either a) we carebear them to death (i.e. never leave our stations and take a two week vacation from Eve, which I lol at because I'm a crazy Eve addict now).
Or B) we fight them, which is what we've done so far. We stand to suffer a lot of losses, but that's to be expected when facing experienced PvPers like our buddies (lol) at ALF.
either way about it DOUW is resolved to give them a fight, win or lose, we will not back down and give them their much desired carebear tears.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.01.26 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Triple Entendre To be fair on ALF, their name is probably kind of the whole reason they decced you. ...You profiteering, environment-destroying, asteroid-kitten-orphaning monster.
Those poor lil pussies. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.01.26 09:21:00 -
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Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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